roadsmith
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posted on September 6, 2007 12:28:30 PM new
My current e-mail provider for some crazy reason is filtering out SOME, not all, eBay messages. We're thinking of getting a gmail account for me, just for eBay and Amazon sales.
If you have gmail, does it work well for you? Can you designate which sites should be able to get through to your e-mail? Are you actually able to SEE your own spam file (I can't now)? Does gmail allow spam through?
Thanks in advance. ~Adele
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neglus
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posted on September 6, 2007 12:47:29 PM new
I have a gmail account (though I continue to use my AOL account for ebay) and gmail spam filter works VERY well! I think my gmail address must be tied to my googlebase items and I do get TONS of spam but it all goes to the right folder as does the "real mail". You can view the spam folder and delete in bulk. I really like GMAIL! It includes a photo album with TONS of storage and document sharing etc.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on September 6, 2007 12:58:46 PM new
Caution: Gmail is very different from email as you may have known it. Gmail is built around the concept of conversations; so instead of seeing a list of individual emails you'll see a thread listing instead. I don't like that. But it might be useful for eBay business...especially with AOLers who never seem to quote the previous email.
Gmail syncs nicely with my iPhone. At least on the iPhone I don't get the dabnag blasted ADS.
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vintageads4u
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posted on September 6, 2007 01:10:37 PM new
I love gmail and use it for personal and business use.
Everything filters accordingly, you can use your Spam folder to view and you can designate sites as spam.
It has a nice Vacation feature. you can also have it send a copy of your emails to another email account if you want a back up.
As fluffy notes, the replies come back as conversations/threads, but now there is a feature to print or forward just part of the conversation.
I love it.
Beth
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irked
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posted on September 6, 2007 08:08:12 PM new
I download my Gmail down into outlook express to my PC and set up filters to put certain emails into a folder. I don't get threads of messages this way. You can put email addresses in your address book at gmail to let those not go to spam folder.
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ST0NEC0LD613
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posted on September 7, 2007 10:24:53 AM new
I wouldn't hesitate to use gmail.. My daughter has a gmail account and her e-mail box looks and works much like my Yahoo account.
Not sure what fluff is talking about conversations other than that is what google calls incoming mail. Just a different term for the same thing as any other e-mail address.
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roadsmith
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posted on September 7, 2007 10:30:02 AM new
Thanks, everyone. I may just try it!
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ebayvet
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posted on September 7, 2007 11:11:14 AM new
One thing to think about with gmail...about a year ago, one day I logged in and my account was suspended. It was just gone. There was absolutely nobody to call for help, and what I read online it looked like my case was hopeless. Since all email is saved on the server, I had access to none of my email (I only used it for personal mail, but still!) - Then one day a few weeks later, without explanation, the account was back up and running. All my email was there, but if it had gone away, it all would be gone and that would have been that. I still use gmail, but would never consider using it for business.
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ST0NEC0LD613
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posted on September 7, 2007 12:20:45 PM new
But that's something that could happen with any e-mail provider. I have had rare periods where I haven't been able to get into e-mails from Yahoo, Hotmail, iwon, excite, alta vista, even the pay per use like AOL and Earthlink. Usually within an hour or two things are back to normal. What VET experienced was an exception but can happen with any of them. Heck, it happens with eBay nearly everyday.
Point is, there is always going to be a certain amount of risk as far as losing your e-mails with any company you use.
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ebayvet
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posted on September 7, 2007 12:26:58 PM new
"But that's something that could happen with any e-mail provider."
Sorry, but you are 100% wrong with this. If you have email that is stored on your computer (I have used Eudora for 15 years now) - you won't lose it like you will with a server based system, like yahoo or google. The only way I will lose my email is if I don't back it up...I have it going back to 1992 and no matter who my ISP is, the email is still with me.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on September 7, 2007 04:52:08 PM new
ebayvet is absolutely right.
Google says that they have so much storage available for you that you never need to delete any messages (or move them off Gmail). But accidents happen and who knows if the vast mail archive is backed up or how often?
While it's true that the same thing can and does happen with any web-based email provider, web-based email is far, FAR from being the be-all and end-all of email.
It's just what most people use because they are too frickin' cheap to pay a real internet service provider.
Another instance of getting what you pay for.
(Another happy Eudora user here.)
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vintageads4u
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posted on September 8, 2007 07:08:32 AM new
I have SBC/ATT DSL so I get SBCglobal, Yahoo mail, Outlook mail, hotmail, you-name-it mail.
I still like google the best. I've used it for almost three years. For those who want hard copy, you can download and save it on a stick if you want. You can print it out, you can forward it to your local email program.
Beth
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sciclone2000
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posted on September 8, 2007 10:13:03 AM new
If you worried about losing mail off of gmails server just set it up as a pop account on outlook express or thunderbird.
Tony.
In a world without walls or fences who needs Windows and Gates?
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irked
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posted on September 9, 2007 10:03:49 PM new
I download my gmail account into my outlook express and it keeps a copy on the server so if I delete in outlook it is still on gmail server, can't remember if I set preferences to keep it on gmail or not but it is always there until I log on and delete it if I so wish. It is same way with my sbc global accounts but I have their preferences set to not keep the emails on the server...
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ST0NEC0LD613
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posted on September 11, 2007 10:39:41 AM new
The only way I will lose my email is if I don't back it up
Isn't that the same a losing info?
However you are also 100% wrong. All e-mail goes to a web-based e-mail provider. Then if you are using like you say "endura", you download it from their servers onto yours. If the online server has a problem, poof. You have no e-mails. Just like anyone else.
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ebayvet
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posted on September 11, 2007 11:09:41 AM new
It's not the same thing, the email is physically on my computer. Anyone can lose anything, but if you back up your email like you should be backing up your computer, no problems. At anytime you can have a yahoo or gmail account removed for TOS violations, there is no warning (it did happen to me)
All email goes to a web based email provider? I don't think so. I don't use a web based email provider. It is possible to maintain your own servers.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on September 11, 2007 11:24:30 AM new
All e-mail goes to a web-based e-mail provider
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Are you even dimly aware that email predates the Web by a decade?
Shut up before you embarrass yourself further. Seriously.
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ebayvet
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posted on September 11, 2007 11:36:23 AM new
"Are you even dimly aware that email predates the Web by a decade?"
Yep, I was using email as far back as 1986, when the only thing that came to mind when you said web was something a spider built.
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LtRay
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posted on September 11, 2007 12:27:52 PM new
One of the reasons why I opened a Gmail account is because my ISP, Knology, seems to "lose" lots of emails that NEVER show up. I know the mails are missing because they are part of on-going exchanges between myself and family.
DH's computer is in the next room and he uses the same ISP. We often copy each other on certain topics and the missing messages that show as sent on one computer may never show up in the receiver's mailbox.
This happens on a weekly basis. I have not seen it happen with gmail... yet.
After losing a few regular customers who thought I had ignored their emails, I decided to give gmail a try and have been very happy with them.
The "conversations" I refered too is the way that gmail "stacks" emails. It is hard to explain here but gmail does not just append replies to the end of the new message, it sorts copies of all sent and received emails with a particular subject line and when you look at a response, you can use one click to see all the emails on that subject. Both your's and the other party.
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ST0NEC0LD613
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posted on September 12, 2007 08:40:10 AM new
Again fluffy,
You don't have a clue, especially how e-mail works. Weather you use endura, outlook or any other program like that, your e-mails go to a server that is ONLINE before you can download it to your computer program. If that server get's screwed up, you DON'T get your e-mails.
It's not rocket science.
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Cashinyourcloset
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posted on September 12, 2007 10:36:27 AM new
Stone,
You really should do yourself a favor and quit while at least you think that you're right.
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ebayvet
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posted on September 12, 2007 11:36:18 AM new
It is pretty humorous when someone is so ignorant like stone on a subject, yet calls others ignorant and thinks they are right. I've been online for a while (going back 25 years to the 300 baud modem days) and I've read about Fluffy's background on these forums in IT - she is probably the most qualified person on the subject actively posting on these boards regarding the subject.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on September 12, 2007 12:44:48 PM new
Stone is confusing the Web with the Internet.
Email these days is pretty much (but not exclusively) passed through the Internet and a subset of that is manipulated through Web-based reader agents.
Think of email as a watermelon, Internet email as a honeydew and Web mail as an orange.
I was working at Sun Microsystems as a Unix system admin in 1993 when my officemate asked if I had taken a look at the World Wide Web. He showed me some site -- I forget what -- but it was all text and hyperlinks. Pictures came later.
Part of my job at Sun was managing our Usenet newsfeeds and reporting to mgmt the top 10 most widely read newsgroups. Usually it was the porn newsgroups and ba.jobs.offered.
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ebayvet
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posted on September 12, 2007 12:51:01 PM new
I first saw the web in '93 too...I was working at the library at Binghamton University in NY, when one of the reference librarians showed me the Vatican exhibit on the web. Until that time, going online meant text based email, and university (text base) gophers (along with the newsgroups of course, I actually founded and wrote the charter for one of the rec.collecting newsgroups) - Anyway, when I saw the web, I was like wow, this is going to change everything - and it did. I learned how to use it really early on too, things sure are a lot more complicated these days. I remember the days of looking and being able to read the source codes and figure out how to do things.
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roadsmith
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posted on September 12, 2007 02:11:13 PM new
Just an update for all of you nice people. I'm finally getting the "search" e-mails I'd been missing, and everything seems to be in order with my e-mail now (at least, right now!). I'm saving your comments about gmail; we were ready to go with it when this all got fixed. If I need to go to gmail later on, I'll have your advice, which was much appreciated. Thanks! ~Adele
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