posted on November 24, 2007 11:27:49 AM new
I remember reading somewhere that in order to relocate & live in Australia you had to have a certain amount of money to sustain yourself until you find a job so you are able to work & support yourself & family.
posted on November 24, 2007 11:40:38 AM new
Maybe we could apply that to immigrants here? I'd be even more interested in saying that only 2 generations of a family can draw welfare benefits. Once the 3rd generation comes along - oh, well. Guess either mom or grandmom will have to go off of welfare...
There's got to be an answer for helping those who only know the government handout as a way of life. I almost don't fault them for expecting it. Their mother got it. Their grandmother got it... Why shouldn't they expect it?
posted on November 24, 2007 01:18:11 PM new
Yes, Australia and most other countries require that legal immigrants be able to support themselves once they arrive. Australia is particularly picky--a friend of my parents' recently decided to move BACK to Australia. Getting Australian passports for his US-born teen-aged children was no problem. Their US citizen mother, his wife of nearly 20 years...major problem requiring numerous interviews, production of documents, more interviews--it took several months for her visa to be approved. The kicker: he's been a US based, Australian government employee for 20-ish years, most of which he's been they guy responsible for...
yes, you've probably guessed it....
approving immigration visas for US & Canadian citizens moving to Australia.
posted on November 24, 2007 02:17:55 PM new
Chinese from China who want to immigrate here have to go through a complete thorough physical exam.
US govt is looking for possible AIDS,STD,HEP C,TB and more.
Since 9/11,it has become very difficult to enter this country,legally.
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Lets all stop whining !
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posted on November 25, 2007 07:37:08 AM new
I do not know how many Chinese are trying to immigrate legally are having a rough time. Hopefully they are allowed to come if they qualify. They sure do not have any problem sending their lead over.
It is every country's right and responsibility to know who is their borders.
Heck,at my house, I do not open my front door and let folks in,I know nothing about. If they were to sneak through a window or door and try living in my house,I would take measures to get them out. I certainly would not just buy more groceries, pay high power bills, build on extra bedroom for them. I would not provide medical care and pay their doctors bills. I also would not pay teachers to teach them to learn English. I would not let them drive my car without a valid drivers license.
I DO think it is terrible to be mean to people because of their size.
Wonder, how the press that bashes Washington would react if obese people were tuned back because of being overweight.They bash Washington for trying to enforce immigration laws.
YEP, people entering the country should be documented and it would be nice if they were self sufficient.
Just my opinion NOT A DIVINE REVELATION
posted on November 25, 2007 07:41:53 AM new
Just wondering, how many of our ancestors that immigrated to the US could qualify for immigration today? My earliest US family had to be subsidized by the Native Americans to survive.
[ edited by pixiamom on Nov 25, 2007 07:46 AM ]
posted on November 25, 2007 08:15:24 AM new
that is true, we are all immigrants.
My parents came in through Ellis Island.Registered every year until they became citizens.They never expected everyone to speak German or demand the signs and all public instructions to be in German. The spoke English at home and that was the language I spoke from infancy.They never received one penny of public assistance .
It has gotten WAAAAAY out of out -- bust in we will take care of you is not the way to handle it.
posted on November 25, 2007 08:15:26 AM new
It raining in Carolina --a teeeny bit but I can identify it - it is rain! You would have to live here, to understand this.
In this area RAIN has been missing
BTW Pixia I said
YEP, people entering the country should be documented and it WOULD BE NICE if they were self sufficient.
posted on November 25, 2007 08:22:20 AM new
Something you may not have taken into account is the medical care system in different countries. In countries like the UK, and Canada, and probably Australia and New Zealand, there is a system where you get medical treatment through a government system. We have a certain amount taken out of our income each month, no choice, but it is far less than companies in the US charge for medical insurance. It means that governments are careful about who they allow to emigrate. When we moved to Canada over 30 years ago, we all had a rigorous medical exam, and the fact that I had arthritis was a concern that I would be a drain on the Ontario health system. We know several people who have been denied because they have a health problem that would need ongoing treatment.
posted on November 25, 2007 09:28:30 AM new
I understand your points, Deur, but if my relatives had been as flexible, I would be speaking the Wampanoag language.
posted on November 25, 2007 10:11:32 AM new
My Swedish grandparents came from Sweden at the turn of the century, went directly to Chicago and lived with relatives until they could be on their own. My mother regrets that they would NOT allow her to talk Swedish or even to learn it in the home. English only, and the grandparents assimilated quickly, got jobs, bought a home, saw that their children had good educations.
My German grandparents came from Germany in about 1890; they spoke German to each other, and their children picked up a bit of it, but English was spoken in the home. They lived in a tiny farming community in Manitoba, and the children also picked up some language skills in Eastern European languages from living there and from their friends' parents.
Both sets of ancestors wanted their children to become citizens of the country in every sense of the word.
We do know that the waves of immigrants in the 1800s in the US tended to settle in urban areas, crowded into small apartments, took any jobs they could, including the children's jobs. Each wave was vilified by previous waves (Italian, Jewish, Irish, etc.), but each wave eventually gained respectability.
They all came in legally, going through all the hoops.
The concern I have is that, if your parents came into the country illegally, breaking the law, you know that, and you know they got away with it. It may give you courage to commit crimes. It's the lawless entry that bothers me the most because of the message it sends to succeeding generations.
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