posted on August 10, 2003 06:39:04 AM new
You know hibberst... why don't you pick a ID and post with that... Skylite, BigCity... or do you enjoy having all those conversations with the "3" of you?
posted on August 10, 2003 06:40:34 AM new
twelvepole
I am getting a little sick and tired of you calling me and everyone else that thinks the War on Oil Confiscation (no, it was NOT a War on Terrorism as Bush would like us to believe) was wrong, Anti-American. Frankly, I find your hatred of those different than yourself, Anti-American. I find your opinion that not all men were created equal, Anti-American. I find your distaste for single mothers, gays, the poor, and the homeless, Anti-American. I find your lack of compassion for those worse off them yourself, Anti-American. That is what I get from your posts. I know I'm not the only one.
Don't call me Anti-American. I go to work everyday and I pay my taxes. I obey the laws set down to protect me should I decided to exercise free will. I believe in our Constitution, the entire thing and not just certain parts or parts I can twist around to serve my own agenda. I believe in the ideals our forefathers set down. I have the American flag flying on my American house for which I pay American property taxes. Don't call me Anti-American.
Sometimes I wonder if you have a full head of hair or if you keep it shaved.
Cheryl
Power to the people. Power to the people, right on. - John Lennon
posted on August 10, 2003 07:00:00 AM new
Lumping me in with Albert Einstein. Didn't realize I was that intelligent.
Sure, some aspects of socialism appeal to me. Capitalism is ruining this country. IMO. But, some of the aspects are too radical even for me. So no, twelve, you have it wrong. I am not a socialist. I'm somewhere inbetween. I'm always inbetween a rock and a hard place.
As Leon Trotsky wrote in 1938 in a statement that is even more true today than when he wrote it, "The world political situation as a whole is chiefly characterized by a historical crisis of the leadership of the proletariat."
Just in case you don't know what a proletariat is (how could you, you could never relate):
Main Entry: pro·le·tar·i·at
Pronunciation: "prO-l&-'ter-E-&t, -'tar-, -E-"at
Function: noun
Etymology: French prolétariat, from Latin proletarius
Date: 1853
1 : the lowest social or economic class of a community
2 : the laboring class; especially : the class of industrial workers who lack their own means of production and hence sell their labor to live
Cheryl
Power to the people. Power to the people, right on. - John Lennon
posted on August 10, 2003 07:11:32 AM new
"There are many who believe we need a president who is willing to put his neck on the line in the best interests of our country."
Which one of those hundreds of flag draped coffins contains Bush's neck?
I am getting a little sick and tired of you calling me and everyone else that thinks the War on Oil Confiscation (no, it was NOT a War on Terrorism as Bush would like us to believe) was wrong, Anti-American. Frankly, I find your hatred of those different than yourself, Anti-American. I find your opinion that not all men were created equal, Anti-American. I find your distaste for single mothers, gays, the poor, and the homeless, Anti-American. I find your lack of compassion for those worse off them yourself, Anti-American. That is what I get from your posts. I know I'm not the only one.
GREAT POST, Cheryl!!! One of the best!
Helen
ubb ed.
[ edited by Helenjw on Aug 10, 2003 07:17 AM ]
By Barton Gellman and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, August 10, 2003; Page A01
Excerpt..
His name was Joe, from the U.S. government. He carried 40 classified slides and a message from the Bush administration.
An engineer-turned-CIA analyst, Joe had helped build the U.S. government case that Iraq posed a nuclear threat. He landed in Vienna on Jan. 22 and drove to the U.S. diplomatic mission downtown. In a conference room 32 floors above the Danube River, he told United Nations nuclear inspectors they were making a serious mistake.
At issue was Iraq's efforts to buy high-strength aluminum tubes. The U.S. government said those tubes were for centrifuges to enrich uranium for a nuclear bomb. But the IAEA, the world's nuclear watchdog, had uncovered strong evidence that Iraq was using them for conventional rockets.
Joe described the rocket story as a transparent Iraqi lie. According to people familiar with his presentation, which circulated before and afterward among government and outside specialists, Joe said the specialized aluminum in the tubes was "overspecified," "inappropriate" and "excessively strong." No one, he told the inspectors, would waste the costly alloy on a rocket.
In fact, there was just such a rocket. According to knowledgeable U.S. and overseas sources, experts from U.S. national laboratories reported in December to the Energy Department and U.S. intelligence analysts that Iraq was manufacturing copies of the Italian-made Medusa 81. Not only the Medusa's alloy, but also its dimensions, to the fraction of a millimeter, matched the disputed aluminum tubes.
A CIA spokesman asked that Joe's last name be withheld for his safety, and said he would not be made available for an interview. The spokesman said the tubes in question "are not the same as the Medusa 81" but would not identify what distinguishes them. In an interview, CIA Director George J. Tenet said several different U.S. intelligence agencies believed the tubes could be used to build gas centrifuges for a uranium enrichment program.
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