posted on July 7, 2001 10:26:29 AM
Microbes: My fuel bill was almost zero this past winter due to provincial rebates. I'm in a province with lots and lots of oil. You didn't get our oil.
posted on July 7, 2001 10:29:59 AM
You'd have lost the War of 1812, if the British hadn't been so pre-occupied with Napoleon who was in the midst of trying to conquer Europe.
posted on July 7, 2001 10:46:35 AM
After dumping on Cornwallis in 1776 - with no Nappy in sight - I rather doubt our forefathers would have lost in 1812. But if it makes you feel better to say it, thats OK. We understand envy.
posted on July 7, 2001 08:44:23 PM
I can't understand the mentality that needs America to have conclusively won any and every military operation it's been involved in.
posted on July 7, 2001 09:16:30 PM
As an American (who, by the way, lived in Alberta for 5 years ), Yes, we tryed to invade Canada in 1812, and failed. That was what the whole War of 1812 was about.
But it wasn't quite like some of you Cunuck's are making it out, either. That Army that Sacked Washinton DC (yes, they SACKED it), didn't come home unscathed. They ran into a BIG PROBLEM in Baltimore.
And we were not fighting JUST CANADA but the whole bloody BRITISH EMPIRE. If it had been just Canada, ya'll would be paying your taxes to Washington.
Also, that war ended in a negotiated settlement, not by either side winning. If the British had won the War of 1812, the Queen would be on our money too.
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posted on July 8, 2001 12:33:43 PM"Negotiated settlement". Hehehe.
According to my history book, the negotiations started in June of 1814, and the "Peace of Ghent" was signed on Dec 22, 1814. The terms called for a return of the status quo from before the war started. It was a far cry from a "surrender".
Of course, Andrew Jackson didn't hear about all this, and wopped the British a good one in New Orleans a Fortnight later.
posted on July 8, 2001 12:51:29 PM
Ahem. Speaking of lacrosse:
[i]The Cherokees called the sport "the little brother of war" because it was considered excellent military training. A team consisted of hundreds, even thousands, of players, often an entire village or tribe, the goals were often miles apart, and a game might last as long as three days.
Since most players couldn't get anywhere near the ball, they concentrated on using the stick to injure opponents.[/i] - hickoksports.com (not the most authoratative source, I know, but best I could find on short notice)
By the time the game migrated north and the Iroquois started playing, it had already devolved into the effete shadow which is played today. THAT may have been 'invented' in what is now Canada, but the game's origins are in what is now North Carolina.
-gaffan-
posted on July 8, 2001 01:21:07 PM
When the game migrated north to the Iroquis--there were no borders except what the First Nations had decided upon.
Modern Lacrosse History
Early in the 19th century, Europeans in Canada began playing the game. Montreal's Olympic Club organized a team in 1844, specifically to play a match against a Native American team. Similar games were played in 1848 and 1851. However, the first step toward turning lacrosse into a genuinely organized, modern sport came when
the Montreal Lacrosse Club, founded in 1856, developed the first written rules. George Beers of the MLC rewrote the rules thoroughly in 1867. His rules called for 12 players per team, and named the positions: Goal, point, cover point, first defense, second defense, third defense, centre, third attack, second attack, first attack, out home, and in home. Beers, who is now known as " the father of lacrosse," also replaced the hair-stuffed deerskin ball
with a hard rubber ball and designed a stick that was better suited to catching the ball and throwing it accurately.
Canada's National Lacrosse Association, which was also established in 1867, quickly adopted the new rules. The same year, a team made up of Caughnawaga Indians went to England and played a match for Queen Victoria. The sport became quite popular in Bristol, Cheshire, Lancashire, London, Manchester, and Yorkshire, and the English Lacrosse Union was organized in 1892.
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posted on July 8, 2001 02:09:19 PMHistory book information is dependent of the who writes it..... Try a few non-USA authored history books
I agree. Funny thing is, I just checked, and the book I am pulling information from was originaly copyrighted in Switzerland, about as nuetral of a place as you could find
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posted on July 8, 2001 04:00:46 PM
"When the game migrated north to the Iroquis--there were no borders except what the First Nations had decided upon. "
Z, that's why I said "what is now Canada".
Guess history depends not only on who writes it, but what one considers the beginning of time. I'd pick something earlier than 1844.
-gaffan-
posted on July 8, 2001 04:25:30 PM
Gee, this book I'm using has a list of Authors about a half mile long (That's about a Kilometer, for you folks ) Give me a couple of days, and I might figure out where they all are from.
I figure it was copyrighted in Switzerland because the authors are from all over the world. (Some of the names definatly look European)
So... What's the Canadian version of the "Peace of Ghent", the talks that lead to it being signed, and exactly what was agreed to?
I used to listen to Radio Moscow, just to get both sides of the story.
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