justjoan
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posted on June 23, 2001 07:58:50 AM new
Bull corn they did a lot of adveristing, the only advertising they did was well into the days of the auction, almost a year into it I think, and that was after tons of us ex ebayers moved there after the it's only a buck bit.
The most I ever saw yahoo advertise was in some movies, in a plug, and then on tv, but not saying anything but do you do Yahoo.
As far as e mailing my past customers. I will disagree with spam, when I take the time to individually e mail them and tell them I am at a different auction house and give them my web page.
I've had a lot of them say glad to see you wondered where you were.
I would never mass mail to customers, that is spam to me.I've gotten tons of those from customers with a good 20 customers names attached in the e mail, that is spam.
Your opinion bidbids of Bidville is your opinion, but darn I get tired of all the downers that love to get on the message boards and beat at this site and that.
And if anybody can tell me that Yahoo is doing better, which I have auctions there day after day and nothing happens, and Ebay with a rare thing selling. Well gee I must be selling the wrong thing.
And when we talk of SPAM when you have Ebay pulling what they just pulled sending e mails to customers on items that didn't win bids, hum as a seller I would be furious.
Off the soap box.
Joan
http://www.geocities.com/justjoansetc/
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cuff
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posted on June 23, 2001 08:23:32 AM new
bidsbids... Jealousy is an ugly animal, and you are obviously nothing more than a BidVille Basher. Your statements are not based facts or on anything else. A whole lot of people just found BidVille, and there is NOTHING you can say or do that will change that.
I wish you success at your own auctions home wherever that is, and hope you realize some day that there are plenty of Buyer's to go around. Try taking the High Road and think about redirecting your energies to make your own site more profitable.
msCuFF@BIDVILLE
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wallypog
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posted on June 23, 2001 09:49:50 AM new
I believe we're each entitled to our own opinions and I also feel that each one of these posts reflect our respective opinions. 
However, I for one don't consider myself a BidVille 'cheerleader'. I don't cheerlead for any site--I call them as I see them.
BidVille isn't a 'perfect' site by any means. So far I haven't found a site that is. But I do feel that with some work it could be a decent contender. I guess you could add it to the list of 'Wallypog's Picks' which doesn't contain many sites at the moment.
I was hesitant to start listing on BidVille but I wanted to get some merchandise moved out of the house and for me the big site just isn't an option anymore. I don't handle control freaks very well at all. I don't have a problem abiding by reasonable rules--but when those rules become unreasonable I'm for looking for greener pastures.
So, maybe BidVille doesn't and never will have the traffic the big site does. But it could still become a viable marketplace without reaching those high numbers.
At the moment BidVille has excellent Customer Support. I haven't sent an e-mail to them that hasn't been answered within hours and usually within minutes of sending it. Currently they're willing to listen to their users and implement changes that the users request. If all of a sudden their attitude changed I don't believe I'd stick around.
Sure, maybe a couple of my auctions are selling to someone for resale. What difference does it make? I might make a little profit and they might make a little profit. That's the name of the game.
I know there's been an increase in traffic since the sale started and that traffic may very well slack off after the sale is over. I'm a realist and would actually be surprised if it didn't. But, I do believe that BidVille has seen what something like this can do to help their site and I bet they'll be working even harder now to keep those people who've come over for the sale.
I also wonder how many of the people who're bidding now with zero feedback have been registered at BidVille for a while but lost interest early on and had to come back to check out the $1-sale.
I didn't send out e-mails to past buyers because I don't have an active mailing list. I tried to start one but ran into problems because I hardly ever sell the same type of merchandise twice. I'll either have a dozen of one particular item (which most people don't want or need multiples of) or have a completely unique item and never see anything that falls into that category again. But I know there were a lot of sellers who did. They didn't spam people--they sent e-mails to those on opt-in mailing lists. There's a big difference.
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bidsbids
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posted on June 23, 2001 09:50:02 AM new
You two need serious therapy. It's almost like when a person discovers a religion and they are blinded by its "goodness". That person can rationalize away everything under the sun to fit their new religion.
You want BidVille to succeed so bad that evey little thing turns into a "glorious manifestation" from God.
If anyone buys into their line of "were giving eBay a real scare" then please list a few items there and watch the free hit counters. At the onset you get hits because you are a new vendor in a stale fleamarket and then watch the hits stop as there are almost zero buyers there.
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joice
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posted on June 23, 2001 10:13:26 AM new
bidsbids,
Your comment You two need serious therapy. is both insulting and inflammatory.
Consider this a warning that your posting privileges will be in jeopardy should you continue to post in this manner.
From the Community Guidelines:
8.1. Respect the Community. AuctionWatch takes pride in its Community. Please remember that you are expected to treat your fellow Community members and Moderators and staff with respect and consideration.
Joice
[email protected]
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Daredevil2010
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posted on June 23, 2001 11:32:38 AM new
If I recall, PayPal used to give $10 to each new signee and the person who referred them. Then they cut it to $5. And now it's only for the premier accounts.
Look at PayPal now. They now have credit cards, money markets, charge just as much as eBay... and they continue to be used up the butt. I personnally will only buy auctions from people who use PayPal.
The point is: sometimes you have to first entice the buyers with good deals. Once the buyers know you're there then it's just a matter of selling good stuff. If Bidville can attract 1000-1500 new buyers that's a great start!!
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cuff
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posted on June 23, 2001 11:36:17 AM new
Seems to me you are the one who should seek therapy bidsbids. Why would you hang out on this board just waiting to throw in your negativity? What is it you hope to gain? Do you want attention, or are you just a nasty person?
Never mind... I think I already know the answers. Have a good day.
msCuFF@BidVille
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bidsbids
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posted on June 23, 2001 12:07:21 PM new
Oh Joice ... Is it not okay for me to suggest therapy and okay for others to suggest it for me?
Daredevil ... please write what you wrote about buying only from sellers that use PayPal on a message board in Bidville and be prepared to be torn apart by the backwoodsmen there that only accept money orders. You can be bold here because only a few Bidvillers have figured out how to get to AuctionWatch.
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joice
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posted on June 23, 2001 12:12:51 PM new
cuff,
You are being given a very strong warning that your posting privileges are in jeopardy.
You posted this comment following my warning to another poster for the same thing:
Seems to me you are the one who should seek therapy bidsbids
Let me refer you to the Community Guidelines:
8.1. Respect the Community. AuctionWatch takes pride in its Community. Please remember that you are expected to treat your fellow Community members and Moderators and staff with respect and consideration.
Joice
[email protected]
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cuff
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posted on June 23, 2001 01:08:36 PM new
"You can be bold here because only a few Bidvillers have figured out how to get to AuctionWatch."
Joice?
msCuFF@BidVille
PS. This thread is way off track directly due to bidsbids. I will refrain from further posts to this thread in an effort to get back on track.
It is human instinct to respond when attacked. My apologies to all readers.
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justjoan
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posted on June 23, 2001 01:26:36 PM new
One thing nobody noticed that bidbids only signed on to aw on 6/21 so tells me hiding behind another person, just to make trouble, and sad at that too.
I still will rah rah the sales are fine the site is fine and I'm rooting all the way.
for it to win.
Joan
http://www.geocities.com/justjoansetc/
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joice
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posted on June 23, 2001 01:43:31 PM new
justjoan,
One thing nobody noticed that bidbids only signed on to aw on 6/21 so tells me hiding behind another person, just to make trouble, and sad at that too.
If you have information that is proof positive of the above statement send it on to the address below. If you do not have any such information, please do not make such accusations. We do expect everyone to use common courtesy when posting.
Joice
[email protected]
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deichen
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posted on June 23, 2001 03:15:47 PM new
Geez, I don't read this thread for a while and WOW!
I want to say that Justjoan is correct. I never heard any advertising for Yahoo auctions until the radio ads (now, they are dried up, too) WHEN and only WHEN they started charging fees! Yahoo auctions was several years old also. I was there for several years and would go a month or more between sales.
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eSeller004
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posted on June 23, 2001 03:30:19 PM new
Just checked out Bidville and I'm seeing alot of bids --- many times more than the last time I checked back in May! You guys have stoked the fire with that $1-sale promotion! Great job!! Now Bidville's gotta keep that momentum going! 
Also noticed Bidville has paid advertising from big names like Ford Motors, Volvo, VISA, GetSmart, and others. Increasing traffic allows for higher ad rates and potentially cash for advertising!!
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Daredevil2010
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posted on June 23, 2001 03:44:43 PM new
Bidsbids,
I have stated ON Bidville that I greatly prefer PayPal. Now if a great deal or a specific item comes up that I really want... well I can make an exceptions. It's called being FLEXIBLE.
Yet I prefer PayPal. People who accept it will get my bids more readily. I don't need to braodcast it over the internet. Also, who cares what other people write. You think I really care about your opinion? Once I click to the next page here, you're long gone in my mind. Words on a screen don't really mean much to mean especially if I don't even really know the person in REAL life.
I don't care if other people only accept money orders... that's their choice. It's my choice to only buy from people who accept PayPal. Big deal.
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canvid13
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posted on June 23, 2001 05:28:07 PM new
Wow. There's a whole lot of shilling going on in this post.
Some of you may not work for bidville but you sure sound like it.
The facts are the bidville hasn't really promoted this dollar sale offsite.
But then how do you expect a site that has very little revenue to be able to?
I listed a few items on Bidville as an experiment with no success to date and I was a very early member.
I had zero expectations and haven't been disappointed.
You get what you pay for folks. I give the folks at Bidville credit as they've done a pretty good job without a revenue stream.
If you chest thumpers really want Bidville to work you better get your check books out because at some point they are going to need some loot!
Nothing is for free on this planet!
[email protected]
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jimhhow
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posted on June 23, 2001 06:57:52 PM new
bidsbids;
Reading your posts has a familiarity about them. Everything from the wording to the obvious attempts to take the thread off topic. But since you have, I feel I must reply.
I have many loyal customers at Bidville, and have sold over 180 collectible items there. I also do not accept paypal.
I resent your charactorization as a "backwoodsmen" as a derogatory term because someone chooses not to be totally ruled by a company that constantly changes their terms without notice, and refuses to do their job without complete control and access to one's financial entities. IE: credit card and bank account.
I also think that you have no issue here with the exception of trying to see how much you can stir the pot and cause trouble.
I seriously suggest that if you dislike Bidville so much, that you may want to stay away from there and posts regarding it. I recognize your right to say whatever you want, but I think that by constantly going somewhere that upsets you so much, you are doing yourself a disservice, and not doing any good for your piece of mind.
No one is forced to come to or stay at Bidville, or on any of the threads either there or here.
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SaraAW
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posted on June 23, 2001 07:04:14 PM new
Everyone,
Please address the Topic of this thread and refrain from making personal comments to each other.
Thank you,
Sara
[email protected]
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justjoan
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posted on June 23, 2001 07:52:13 PM new
Well staying on topic, then I say my sales are doing well. I've added a few more to the list of bidders in the last two days.
I am selling off things that have been sitting for a long time, so it's a clearance sale, and time to do it.
Pleased to see others finding them interesting, and getting a bit of a bidding war going on a few things.
Glad to see some sales happening.
I'm a happy camper.
Or should say ol bitty.
Joan
http://www.geocities.com/justjoansetc/
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uptoolate
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posted on June 24, 2001 01:47:04 AM new
I realize the main point was to draw new users but the real question yet to be determined is will they stay and bid any serious money on this site? I go to a lot of mall stores when they have a huge sale but never care to shop them otherwise. The users that have been on BV for months haven't bid much but there's still hope from these newbies.
I know some people don't think so but to me the $ made is more important than the # of bids to justify all the sellers work. Of 712 closed only 5 sold for over $4.60. Though it has brought some new users the sale is not disproving the fact that rarely an auction over a few dollars sells there. That remains discouraging for now. The result by sales end may prove more impressive, it's too early to tell. Of course it will still take weeks to judge the full effect of spending habits of the new users gained from it. That's why I'm a bit confused at people already labeling the sale 'great'. Will the site sell-through go back to less than 2% after the sale, that is the main question. All we can do is wait and see.
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toteullenebay
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posted on June 24, 2001 04:52:35 AM new
Let's see if I got it right!
You all loathe and despise EPay ...
You all want to see a site that will be a real contender ...
And when one emerges (at least has the potential to emerge), the majority of you howl it down instead of giving it a go.
There's something wrong with those people!
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I don't sell on Bidville ... yet.
But I hate EPay enough to wish ANY site success.
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cuff
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posted on June 24, 2001 06:03:18 AM new
The BidVille $1-Sale is going great! I too am selling many items that I'd listed on Yahoo for over a year with no results. In several instances I'm getting counter bids and selling the items at, and even above my original (pre-$1-Sale) asking price.
That's not what's important.
BidVille is getting much needed exposure. Buyers and Sellers that knew nothing of BidVille now know that we exist. Every successfully completed transaction will bring BidVille closer to its full potential.
I think most of the people in this thread have a positive outlook for BidVille. I only see a couple here who are concerned enough about BidVille's success to run around the message boards making disparaging remarks. It means nothing.
The BidVille $1-Sale is a SUCCESS!!!
msCuFF@BidVille
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