posted on January 3, 2001 06:06:15 PM new
Wow, I don't know. In slightly over a year I have had over 500 sales of sports cards and stamps but I also carry over 500 items at all times. I contacted Yahoo today and informed them that they should have some kind of program for their high volume sellers who actually do sell 15-20 items a week because we price our things reasonably. I was told they had no plans to institute any such program and that relists would be charged which I believe even the 4 letter word auction does not. Free auctions seem to be going away. I used to sell on up4sale which is gone. Auctionaddict was frree but there were no buyers. I wonder about boxlot, edeal and webswap. I will also check into lycos. THis is a VERY sad day but $100 in fees every 10 days is not an option.
visit iucards http://www.homestead.com/iuhoosier for vintage to modern cards and stamps
posted on January 3, 2001 06:47:11 PM new
Huh? they told you there was no program for large listers? What happened to their Yahoo Merchant Auction program?
http://auctions.yahoo.com/html/promo2.html
Quote - Sellers can participate in Yahoo! Merchant Auctions for free if they registered for a Yahoo! Store to sell fixed price items. -Endquote You open up a Yahoo store for $100 per month and your auction listings are free. Unless they have changed their mind! I guess you can ask them when they do their chat tomorrow Thursday, January 4th at 1pET/10aPT.
http://chat.yahoo.com/
- Rosalinda
TAGnotes - daily email synopsis about the Online Auction Industry http://www.topica.com/lists/tagnotes
posted on January 3, 2001 07:27:56 PM new
Gone, for me after the relist expires!
I'll wear black tomorrow. It's been fun, and a lot of work.
Born, 6/22/00 with the sell of a craft mat for cutting at $4.00. I got a GREAT deal and passed it on to another crafter. Still, below retail for them. I sold high quality items, JackWolfe, for my category (whatever the h--- Yahoo thought that category was). I spent a lot of time trying to figure that out.
I loved Yahoo for it's great management system. It emailed me immediately when an auction closed, and provided a great index for my sells. We went through good times (PayPal with no fees) and weathered the bad times (PP fees and Exchg Path thiefs) and through it all I learned about ecommerce.
I'm just thankful that this was a sideline for me. Tommorow's another day.
posted on January 3, 2001 09:16:15 PM new
I will be going. It is a shame, they were really starting to do well for me. I have over 45% of the listings in the insulator category. Sure I had high prices on a lot of my insulators, but they were good quality.
Sort of reminds me of X.COm and to a lesser extent Paypal.
posted on January 3, 2001 09:43:24 PM new
Going. I was already paying Yahoo $100. - $200. a month (for featured auctions) and I won't pay listing and FVF. I sell quality, high end items and sometimes it takes a relist or two to sell. eGREED priced themselves out of my budget (to tell me a $20. listing fee is not enough and I have to pay again to relist because their site was down several times during the week???) and now eGREED is saying if an item listed on eGREED doesn't sell, you can't sell it on-line or they will teminate your account. That means you can't list it on your web page or on another auction. and eGREED is "just a venue"???
These auction sites are trying to make up for the low stock prices by charging sellers every little penny they can. the stock prices were overinflated and now they are trying to "squeeze blood from a turnip" to make up for the stocks falling to a legitimate price.
JackWolfe: I will never want to do any business with you. Please post your user IDs so I can avoid your auctions.
posted on January 3, 2001 10:31:43 PM new
I too have the same problem. I have been selling on Yahoo for over 1 1/2 years now. I sell a variety of things, not just one category but many categories and things just dont sell on the first run. Sometimes I have to relist things for over 2 weeks or more to get a sale. Right now I have over 200 items listed. I guess I will see how they do and in the mean time, look for another place to sell these things. I guess it might be time to try EBAY. If I am going to pay a listing fee, I might as well go to an auction site that has more traffic. too bad. I have 200+ positive feedbacks with no negatives on Yahoo. What a waste! Now I will need to start over on Ebay or some other site. GRRRR
posted on January 4, 2001 01:04:57 AM new
Anybody want to split a Yahoo! Store with me??? Get to list 50 items on Yahoo Shopping and have UNLIMITED free listings on the Auction (until the powers-to-be at Yahoo realize they OVERLOOKED that aspect of the Merchant accounts).
Split 4 ways, it would only be $25.00 month each....of course, all the Auction postings would have to be done under just one user name with one email address, one Yahoo Wallet, and one feedback history....but it might work for multiple sellers in a family.
I question whether it will even be worth the EFFORT to list on Yahoo Auction in a couple months---even for free.
That is assuming, of course, the Auction is still up and running....and not another subsidiary of eGreed.
posted on January 4, 2001 01:48:56 AM new
Is it April Fool's Day again already? I'm waiting for the next email telling me it was a joke. If it doesn't come, I will be gone. I'm new but I can count! October traffic on eBay 10 Million, Yahoo 3 Million. Bye Bye Bye Yahoo!
Rewind City http://www.rewindcity.com
posted on January 4, 2001 04:59:25 AM new
I'm gone. For the sell through I got at Yahoo, I'll give Lycos a try and go back to Ebay. Yahoo blew it, should have gone to FVF, they offer no customer service, don't handle sight problems, and are rude at best. Let's all go make Lycos the Auction sight we thought Yahoo could be.
posted on January 4, 2001 07:03:02 AM new
I hadn't thought about the Yahoo Merchant Account....that is a thought which we will consider IF we see Yahoo is going to survive this current exodus.
As with many others, we will move a number of auctions to LYCOS to try to boost that site and start some competition for Yahoo and eBay.
It will be interesting to see what finally comes from this move by Yahoo.
I would have been satisfied with paying when an item sold, but not paying to list.
We will continue to use Yahoo, particularly till the 10th, and there after, depending on sales.
But, we will start spreading out to make sure all the eggs aren't in the same basket.
Regarding a Yahoo Chat today - I don't see much point in that - when a company makes a decision, one can yell, scream, holler, etc., as I have been through many times on eBay, and it is merely a place to vent, it changes nothing, and wastes time when I could be posting, moving auctions, or otherwise doing something positive and productive.
IF, Yahoo had wished any input they would have asked for it PRIOR to this announcement.
posted on January 4, 2001 07:30:11 AM new
remember to pass all the information to your customer and make an announcement on your homepage or your pagebuilder
posted on January 4, 2001 07:34:59 AM new
You can have a Merchant Account at AMAZON for only $39.99 (last time I looked). And it's not worth it. Amazon has jumbled listing order too.
posted on January 4, 2001 10:42:55 AM new
The figure you see riding slowly into the sunset will be me. With sales and traffic falling off there is no economic reason to stay with Yahoo now that they are going to charge for listings. I could stomach a final value fee, but with the low traffic there is no way I can sell profitably on Yahoo with a listing fee added to my overhead.
posted on January 4, 2001 10:49:24 AM new
My username on Yahoo is catcharm and I have
160 items listed on Yahoo right now. As
everyone else (except JackWolfe) seems to
experience, items seem to have to be re-listed numerous times before selling. I can't afford these fees and will move. It is
difficult to keep the prices low when everyone has to get a piece of the pie. I
just had a "fit" last week when PayPal took
30 cents from my 50 cent book sale! This
move by Yahoo is not going to improve the
quality. It is going to chase everyone away.
Even if they would allow free re-listings
until we saw if the traffic improved. I
haven't seen more than 6 people look at one
of my listings in six months. In conclusion,
I wouldn't buy from JackWolfe either if it
was the best deal on the net!!! What an
attitude!
posted on January 4, 2001 10:50:14 AM new
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I'll be going back to ebay. It's not that much more money than yahoo will be charging, but at least they have the traffic.>>
I do okay on Yahoo but I do it differently there the other places so I will also not be leaving all together but cut back 95%. The fees are almost the same as Ebay and Ebay does have more traffic. I may also look into half.com and amazon.
posted on January 4, 2001 12:17:08 PM new
Absolutely remarkable all of you. How many of you would like cheese with your whine? "Waah Waah Waah! Yahoo is charging fees! I'm leaving." After you're done crying home to mommy and eating your warm milk and cookies, listen up:
Once listing fees are instituted, IT WILL clean up the site. And from reading some of your posts and the items that you list, many of you that are leaving wont be missed at all. From .10 baseball cards to the other junk I've read that you post, believe me, you get no bids on the items, because NO ONE IS INTERESTED IN THAT GARBAGE! Good luck posting on the sites you've mentioned: snuze.com, epier.com, auxpal.com and the others - I think they have a combined 100 bids last I checked. And if you think that they wont start charging fees if they actually get some traction, then you have another thing coming. You guys are making weak threats with little backing (and little understanding of what will actually happen if you carry out your threats). You're fighting a big war with a little pea shooter.
And I think there's a word for those of you that go back to ebay: sellouts. I wouldn't buy from you if I were the richest person in the world.. but that's mostly because your stuff sucks.
Who lurks in the mind of the pathetic message posters?? JACKWOLFE!!!
posted on January 4, 2001 12:33:09 PM new
JackWolfe,
Your comments are an insult to AW members and violate the AW Community Guidelines. I am issuing you an informal warning. Continuing to post in that manner could jepordize your posting priviledges.
Here is a link to the CGs - I suggest you acquaint yourself with them before you post again.
posted on January 4, 2001 02:46:07 PM new
Hi Everyone,
I'm a gonner. I had over 2000 auctions on Yahoo! (multiple accounts), and I sell used books for cheap, but not any more! This is the last straw with Yahoo!, I've dedicated enough time & work to try and build something with them, only to be continuously shot down (auction caps. ect..).
I suggest you email your customers, for they probably don't know. Only with the buyers, we will be able to be effective in putting pressure on Yahoo! Good-luck & good-bye,
posted on January 4, 2001 03:15:21 PM new
I'm staying in Yahoo, I would quote JackWolfe but I dont want forty lashes from a moderater who seems to only moderate positive attitudes towards Yahoo.
Why doesn't this moderater pull the whip out for the ones who slam the sellers in yahoo? I dont sell garbage but you allow this to be said? Smells like a rat to me!!!!
AW are your moderators showing a bit of bias here?
This moderator is encouraging garbage against Yahoo, the one soul who stands up to it is being punished.
Apparently this moderator thinks I sell garbage too?
posted on January 4, 2001 03:30:29 PM newOnce listing fees are instituted, IT WILL clean up the site.
Well, I can't argue with that. But it's like realizing that your trash can is full and deciding that the best way to empty it is to set your house on fire.
Yahoo's trash can will indeed be emptied, but in doing so, they will burn their house to the ground.
posted on January 4, 2001 03:53:51 PM new
It's people like Jack that make things hard on people. You can be sure he is one who whined to Yahoo to try and get rid of the small sellers. He thinks this will sell more of his items. However, it's those items which bring the buyers and with us gone, who's going to frequent the auctions? I sell crafted items and I do a good business. But not everyone wants a blue dishcloth or a green afghan. But within a month or so someone comes along who does and all the blue dishcloths are sold. But I would have to sell my stuff for outrageous prices to cover the cost of listing and relisting while I wait for that person. I feel that if we must pay we might as well use eBay (savings isn't that great on Yahoo and no perks to stay) where there is more traffic. I have heard a couple egotistical sellers on here saying they are going to be glad to see us gone. I don't think the intention of any of the others on here is to be gone BUT TO FIND A NEW PLACE to sell or return to eBay. I have heard little about quitting and a lot about moving. And I must say I have sold a lot of junk before Yahoo started messing with improving the auction site. Since all their rules and regulations and restrictions my business has dropped considerably.
posted on January 4, 2001 04:10:55 PM new
I think people should realize it's not Yahoo itself we are screaming about. It's the way the are treating us. I have been there for 1 month short of 2 years and have worked hard to build a great site. I have posted quality items at prices REAL PEOPLE could and would pay. I have taken pride in my auctions and have had business cards made telling others where to find my auctions. I love Yahoo and would stay if they made Final Value Fees instead of Listing Fees. I can't afford those. But it bothers me to have people tell me my product is less valuable then theirs. I think alot of the sellers feel the same way that I do. We have had a part in building this but we don't have a say in what happens or how it happens.
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