posted on December 8, 1999 10:50:08 PMVicki AND Aurorah: I like both of you very much.
Somebody please email me and explain why I am not permitted to ask what moderating backgrouNd this GLENDA has? And if this was an inappropriate question, then why did the new moderator answer me????
posted on December 8, 1999 10:51:18 PMAurorah - I have no problem with you, in fact, I directed my comment at no one person. I do take exception, however, with the idea that I should leave a thread because what I say doesn't agree with you. I meant you no disrespect, and I'm sorry if you took it in that vein.
Earl - Color me naive, but I guess I disagree with you.
Coach - I don't think I have to explain this one to you. You're too smart for that. You know it, and so do I.
posted on December 8, 1999 10:53:10 PM
Ross:
I can think of times that pushing the envelope has real value, such as scientific research. I'm sure there are other good examples, but can't think of any at the moment. However, as I see it, the question here is what direction pushing the envelope goes and what are its consequences.
Where is the "Aurorah What WACA said" post that you referred to, I'd like to see what you consider "clearly beyond the edge."
Casperzlady:
Sorry, but referring to other posters as "Like a bunch of school kids when the teacher is absent and the sub comes in or turns her back!" is getting into personalities. Please address specific behavior without labeling people.
Aurorah:
I don't want to make this response too long, so I will take a look at the posts related to the rules and amnesty and reply after that.
posted on December 8, 1999 10:54:19 PMRadh - I like you too! IMO, there was nothing wrong with asking Gila about her background. I'm curious too. As to why she hasn't responded...well, only she knows the answer to that question.
posted on December 8, 1999 10:55:14 PM
I want to make it clear that my post about the smiley faces was not made to instigate anyone to insult me so that I could cry foul.
I was teasing Ken, who has made his disdain for the smileys known long before it became common for some posters to use rows of them.
I do admit that the long rows of them (or any lines) that break the board making it necessary to scroll from side to side to read every line annoys the hell out of me.
I appreciate the compliment but as I stated earlier in this thread I have absolutely no experience with smileys whatsoever. I've been called equal opportunity about some things and just wondered if smileys were equal opportunity also. I see quite a few of them around here, and all of them get annoying, but some of them are so expected that they seem more annoying.
posted on December 8, 1999 10:58:46 PMLin - No reason to clarify. Smile as little, or as much, as you want. I'm not the smiley police, just someone who saw a fire smoldering on the horizon.
What casperzlady said was VERY benign!!! I seriously doubt anyone took offense to it! PLEASE do not go so far with "beigeing" comments as to correct a metaphor stated in harmless jest, which was at no one's expense, really!
posted on December 8, 1999 11:04:40 PMDragonldy - Benign to you, perhaps, but can you truly say that someone didn't bleed a little with each non-beige stab?
The "Aurorah What WACA said" post is on the second page of this thread.
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posted on December 8, 1999 11:14:00 PM
Vickster - Can you please explain how that simple metaphor made you bleed? There was nothing to it that should have offended even the most thin-skinned, she made a simple comparison on the general situation based on her life expeirence. I could say that I like coffee, and that things around here remind me of it because it makes people wired and jumpy. Somebody somewhere might take offense to that, but do you really think that my comment requires admonishing from a moderator?
I cannot see a requirement in casperzlady's post either.
Are we going to wax poetic about how we may offend others with anything we say, then have nothing to say? But then, we will offend someone because we are not posting, because they feel neglected.
Oh what a tangled web...
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".......can you truly say that someone didn't bleed a little with each non-beige stab?"
yet
"Annoying is good for the soul! "
Just an observation here, but I've seen a whole lot of ugliness start lately because somebody started telling somebody else what they thought proper behavior should be. The people who managed to avoid most of this just led by example.
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posted on December 8, 1999 11:28:10 PMDragonldy - I think we're talking on two different channels here! I wasn't the one bleeding. If I was, I'd probably be over at the medicine cabinet right now getting an ace bandage, or at least a Band-Aid!
I was referring to the barrage of "not so veiled" jabs that followed a certain poster's appearance. If you're referring to Aurorah's comment to me, I didn't take it as more than it was intended to be. In fact, I apologized to her for any distress she may have experienced from my posts.
I think you'll agree, it's pretty obvious when someone is trying to insult or goad someone else into a confrontation. I never suggested that your comments should be admonished by a moderator. I'm sorry if you somehow read that into the equation.
Non-beige is worse than beige if it deliberately intends to do harm.
posted on December 8, 1999 11:31:41 PMGila Said, to me about envelope pushing: "However, as I see it, the question here is what direction pushing the envelope goes and what are its consequences. "
Yes, that is in fact the question. As you can well see I am painted by many to be the town outlaw that the new sherrif should take out first without any questions asked, six gun smoking. They will neglect my less than cursory involvement in this latest fracas. Nor will they understand my attempts to be more subtle in my acid comments.
But I am not so inelegant as Casper'sLady, on the second page of this very thread, she double hits 2 posters, with a simple, childish personal attack HERE: http://www.auctionwatch.com/mesg/read.html?num=2&thread=105833&id=105913
She says, fangs and claws extended: Aurorah What WACA said... Hellcat Same but x 10 .... M E E E O O O O O W W W W........
Not very subtle, huh? I will remain on this side of that remark. A swaggering jerk, but a gentleman.
I will offer you as much restraint as I can muster, and you may feel free to discuss the edges of "so-called-good-CG-compliance" at any time.
posted on December 8, 1999 11:37:03 PM
vickster - You are twisting this better than Chubby Checker ever could!
Now I am totally lost as to your origional response to my post.
I commented to the new moderator that I thought that casperzlady's post did not require an admonishment.
You inferred that it did.
I responded as to why I thought it did not.
Now you say something about a post completely off that subject, not even pertaining to what I was posting about, and ask if I am on a different channel?
HUH?????
edited to add -the post referred to by casperzlady is the schoolteacher metaphor, which is the one Gila commented on in the form of an admonishment. Just wanted to clarify because of Ross's post above.
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posted on December 8, 1999 11:37:51 PMCoach - I've been annoyed by a lot of people, but I don't go out of my way to make remarks that have no purpose other than to hurt them. Does that help to clear things up a little?
As for the leading by example, Coach, I thought I was doing just that. I don't recall ever calling anyone a name or launching into a snit based on someone's very appearance on a thread.
If sitting on my hands and saying nothing is qualification for setting a good example, I guess I don't make the grade. My heart, however, tells me I'm doing the right thing, even if no one else agrees with my position.
posted on December 8, 1999 11:44:48 PMRoss,
As you know, i await slavishly each and every post you make.
I do, however want to make a suggestion in anticipation of a change in your tagline following your last entry that for a lyrical quality it read:
posted on December 8, 1999 11:46:19 PMDragonldy - LOL, I'm sorry, but I've totally miscommunicated to you! I misunderstood that your comment was to the moderator, AND that you were really supporting Casperzlady's remark.
It all seems so clear now! I was trying to figure out which metaphor you were referring to, and wrongfully assumed it was another comment. My humble apologies (and blushes)!
posted on December 8, 1999 11:50:57 PM
Vickster - I can see why you were confused. And, I can hardly hold it against my namesake! ( I spell my name Vikki, though!)
It is late! 2:40 AM here, to be exact!
I only hope Gila gets what I meant!
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posted on December 9, 1999 12:02:03 AMVikki, can I call you that, instead of Dragonldy? (wink) I'm glad we got that all cleared up! If it's any consolation, I'm sure Gila understood it better than I did. It's only 2:00 a.m. here, but my sorry tail is surely dragging! I'll bid you a fond good night, and thank you for a great little puzzle. Now go to bed!
Linda - Thank you. I never doubted it for a moment! Too many fine people here. Now go to bed!
