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 krs
 
posted on October 7, 2001 10:35:32 PM new
They get to watch on holidays and during football season.

 
 krs
 
posted on October 7, 2001 10:37:32 PM new
I'm sure that you've watched many things, uaru. There are a lot of people like you.

 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on October 7, 2001 10:37:55 PM new
I think his video was being broadcasted for the rest of the Islamic nations.

I don't know how the radios survive, kinda like disposable ones the army has... just heard that is what they do


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 bunnicula
 
posted on October 7, 2001 10:38:47 PM new
spazmodeus: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1333000/1333652.stm
The only functioning TV station in Afghanistan is operated out of the Opposition territory, in Nadir.

 
 outoftheblue
 
posted on October 7, 2001 10:57:10 PM new
I know, rather than dropping bombs they should air drop an army of psychiatrists.

 
 spazmodeus
 
posted on October 7, 2001 10:58:12 PM new
Thanks, bunnicula.

I wonder if anyone in Nadir owns a Zenith.

 
 Zilvy
 
posted on October 8, 2001 12:46:34 AM new
Spaz

 
 deliteful
 
posted on October 8, 2001 04:28:53 AM new
I am still glad we are sending food.
Jess
 
 labrat4gmos
 
posted on October 8, 2001 06:00:50 AM new
NPR said yesterday that the radios are the wind-up kind. I bought one made in Africa a couple years ago. Really nice. I use it when the electricity goes off here, which seems to be a few times a year. I have also taken it out when doing yard work. One winding lasts about 30-40 minutes, not an hour as stated on mine. I was wondering how they kept them from being destroyed when dropped.





 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on October 8, 2001 08:24:56 AM new
Spaz, it was broadcast on a satellite station called Al Jazeera which is based in Qatar. It's been called the 'CNN of the Middle East'.

 
 wildanteeker
 
posted on October 8, 2001 10:29:37 AM new
Kids are kids no matter where they are and I for applaud the U.S. for their actions.Some of it may get in the wrong hands but but all in all it shows what the American people are capable of and the help give out around the world without ever expecting any in return.Hats off to the good old U>S>A>!!I for one as a Canadian am embarrassed by our "talking out of the side of his mouth" leader and wish we had someone with more backbone.The U.S. has shown both their military might and their humanitarian side.A true free and democratic society!!Way to go U.S.A.

 
 deliteful
 
posted on October 8, 2001 10:41:09 AM new
I personally appreciate all that Canada has already done and what they committed to doing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26358-2001Oct8.html


Jess
 
 spazmodeus
 
posted on October 8, 2001 03:00:35 PM new
Getting back to Bin Laden's videotaped message:

I heard CNN reporters last night talking about speculation that Bin Laden's speech may have contained predetermined code words and phrases which his operatives in other countries would recognize as a signal to put certain plots in action.

Of course, even while considering this possibility, CNN has continued airing the videotape across the globe every hour.

 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on October 8, 2001 03:12:32 PM new
Wouldn't doubt it for a second

They had been in the planning of what they did 9-11 for years, and probably have more plans

I wonder what CNN and others are thinking when they keep showing that video


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 Zilvy
 
posted on October 8, 2001 03:28:28 PM new
If they are showing it with the atrocious English translation over his words unless the terrorists can read lips we don't have to worry about a secret dialogue. Probably the release of the tape itself has set things into motion...yanno like when I give the signal you........

 
 spazmodeus
 
posted on October 8, 2001 03:33:22 PM new
Exactly. What is gained by showing it again and again? It only serves to incite those who think he's a hero, to anger those whose lives he has destroyed, and to discourage those who were hoping he'd be killed in the attack on Afghanistan.

Another thing I'm getting weary of: the government's emphasis that the military operation currently underway is not targeting Osama Bin Laden or any individual, but instead is targeted at the terrorist organization and those who harbor it.

Do they really think we are that stupid?

Whenever I hear them say that I think they're just giving themselves a disclaimer that allows them to save face every time they fail to kill the guy and he shows up on TV to rub it in our faces. It strikes me as extremely reminiscent of the strike on Iraq where Saddam Hussein kept popping up after each strike on Baghdad and the White House would emphasize that the strike was not about taking out Hussein. And we all know how effective that campaign was. Being reminded of the Iraq incident does not instill confidence.



 
 toke
 
posted on October 8, 2001 03:33:30 PM new
No kidding, Spaz...

Bin Laden doesn't need to worry. If he has any problem getting his message out (with or without code) we'll do it for him.

 
 CoolTom-07
 
posted on October 8, 2001 03:46:57 PM new
"The food is being dropped to lure the civilian population back to the danger zones and to fatten them up for the kill."

Egad, krs, you've uncovered our dastardly plot. It was an ultra top secret that the 101th Airborne are comprised entirely of cannibals...

So I hope the starving Afghanis take your advise and shun the foodstuffs we have provided for them. They should go without for just a bit longer until the humanitarian food caravans arrive from Iran, Iraq, Palestine, American Muslims, the peace movement and the editors of Nation...

{/sarcasm off}

[ edited by Cooltom on Oct 8, 2001 03:48 PM ]
 
 fiset
 
posted on October 8, 2001 03:48:37 PM new
I'm not concerned that Bin Laden may have a secret message in his statement as I feel he surely could manage a more effective means of communicating with his people. But I do agree that showing it over and over is a bad idea. Taped speeches should be given no air time. Now, if the guy wants to hold a live press conference.......


[ edited by fiset on Oct 8, 2001 03:49 PM ]
 
 nebula5
 
posted on October 8, 2001 04:24:10 PM new
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/monitoring/media_reports/newsid_1579000/1579929.stm

If there are secret messages in Bin Laden's tape, his followers won't be watching CNN or any other English language station to hear it. They'll be watching Al-Jazeera, which is also broadcast worldwide (yes, even in the US).
 
 Microbes
 
posted on October 8, 2001 05:22:59 PM new
Do ya think that transistor radios would survive being dropped from an airplane?

I was wondering how they kept them from being destroyed when dropped.


Sure. Put 6 of them in with a pallet load of wheat, put a parachute on that puppy, and kick it out the door. Come on people, this ain't rocket science.

You know a case of Spam from 30,000 foot probably reaches a terminal velocity that will make it work about as well s a cluster bomb.

Wrap the same thing in heat sheilding, and fire it from the space shuttle. Better than a cluster bomb. This is rocket science.





 
 deliteful
 
posted on October 8, 2001 05:52:41 PM new
LOL @ Rocket Science
Jess
 
 Zilvy
 
posted on October 8, 2001 06:20:35 PM new
fiset says:Taped speeches should be given no air time. Now, if the guy wants to hold a live press conference.......

Great idea, but who would do the interview considering all the homing devices aimed at the broadcast???




 
 buyhigh
 
posted on October 8, 2001 06:43:15 PM new
What is all this stuff about dropping cases of Spam? Surely our intelligence is smarter than that and is dropping stuff the people can and will eat - I would imagine bags of grain, flour and rice.
buyhigh
 
 deliteful
 
posted on October 8, 2001 06:56:44 PM new
buyhigh,

Actually these first food drops are one day each meal packages. Each yellow package contains servings for three meals. The packages do not contain any meat but do contain dairy, bread, protein... The packages cost $4.25 each and have little wingy things that allow them to flutter to the ground after being dropped so as to not kill people upon contact (obviously a problem in the Bosnia food drop program). Once the air raids stop and we are able, we plan to send in truck convoys with more conventional food products like bags of grain...


I am glad we are doing this.
Jess
 
 CoolTom-07
 
posted on October 8, 2001 07:04:04 PM new
"They'll be watching Al-Jazeera, which is also broadcast worldwide (yes, even in the US)."

Gee, I assume they use the Islamic geocentric orbit satellite to broadcast it too. Oh, what's that you say? No such thing.

Well, too bad that all those pricey and technologically advanced Western communications satellites have developed mysterious circuitry problems and won't be able to transmit signals in Arabic for say a few years...

Ah well, a devout Muslim wouldn't watch decadent television anyway...


 
 gravid
 
posted on October 8, 2001 07:15:14 PM new
It would just be such a cultural statement to send spam which is mostly pork shoulder. Eat it or go hungrey.
Don't mean to gross anyone out but camping we have made spam ka-bobs.
If you are exhausted and starved from climbing a mountain glacier in wet tennis shoes at 12,000 foot and ripping your seat out of your jeans on the ice they are not half bad.

 
 buyhigh
 
posted on October 8, 2001 09:08:55 PM new
gravid - Anyone who climbs a 12,000 ft glacier in jeans and tennis shoes deserves to eat Spam.
buyhigh
 
 gravid
 
posted on October 8, 2001 11:21:40 PM new
You should see the looks you get from guys going the other way climbing who have all the ropes and ice axes and the fancy ice grippers on their boots and stuff. They look at you like you had on burmuda shorts and a straw hat. Bet none of them had spam. They carry cute little stoves and freeze dried stuff.



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