posted on January 12, 2001 05:22:27 PM newOVER A 100 AUCTIONS CANCELLED BY YAHOO!!!
This is total insanity - I was gone most of the day and when I came in I had an excessive amount of mail - I almost flipped when I saw it coming in. ALL of my auctions canceled!!!
Now, I'm not a newbie, our feedback on Yahoo is over 500. I've never encountered such a problem on Yahoo. I looked at some of these and they are beyond my understanding.
Lamps in the Lamp department, political buttons in the political category, etc. etc., here is a sample of some of those which were cancelled!
posted on January 12, 2001 05:40:19 PM new
The only possible reason I see is that it could be because you have a link to your eBay feedback in your auction listings. Since eBay doesn't allow those kind of links on their site...now that Yahoo! is charging...I suspect they will no longer allow them either.
It sure would be nice if they'd explain why they take some of the actions they do at Yahoo! Oh yeah, I forgot...it's Yahoo! It probably comes under the heading of "proprietary information".
George It's easy to "knock" a program....a lot harder to come up with a BETTER solution.
posted on January 12, 2001 05:42:06 PM new
It looks like Yahoo!Auctions has already lost more than 300,000 listings since the implementation of listing fees.
What's another hundred?
I'm sure you go an real human response to your inquiry to Yahoo!Auctions, rather than a BotResponse. After all, they did promise a "customer service" staff.
posted on January 12, 2001 06:04:35 PM new
O.K. on the assumption that Yahoo isn't totally insane (although that is always possible), my guess is that the auctions were closed down because your description shows a link to eBay - a competing auction site.
If this is a new policy, then anyone else who has such a link had better edit it out before the auctions get cancelled!
JWPC: If I'm right, it sucks that you were given no warning and no opportunity to edit out the link without your auctions being cancelled.
posted on January 12, 2001 06:17:33 PM new
Yahoo's new additional auction guidelines can be found at:
http://user.auctions.yahoo.com/html/guidelines.html
here is the part that would probably apply to you:
Appropriate listing content. You may not link to, post images or other content, or include advertisements for goods or other matter that: (a) describe items that you are not selling in Yahoo! Auctions, or (b) you do not have right to link to or include. You also may not include any content or images in your listing that are obscene, offensive, harmful to minors, invasive of anyone's privacy, or otherwise inappropriate.
Read these and try to tell me they didn't make their decision purely on revenue potential and are trying to hide behind the idea that this may or may not improve the quality of their site.
posted on January 12, 2001 06:28:01 PM newdman3, if you'll look at the NW feature of the auctions jwpc listed in his post above, you'll see that they weren't NW'ed. I suspect it has to do with the links...Yahoo! may start cracking down on them.
posted on January 12, 2001 06:54:49 PM new
OH GIVE ME A BREAK!!
Stop with your cries of innocence & claims of not understanding JWPC.
It's not fair of you to post single ads and have people speculate what was wrong or to claim Yahoo is crazy. You have stated on these boards for months you always run 2 ads per item in different categories. I have told you several times THAT is what Yahoo considers SPAM. You have stated repeatedly that EVERY time you get NW'd you ignore it, switch title words and relist. You have violated TOS over and over from the amount of times you claim to have been NW'd so I'm surprised Yahoo hasn't booted you long ago. From your own posts you were given many warnings before they took final action.
Now that you have finally posted your Yahoo ID I took a look your closed auctions. I see many 7-9 inch switchblade knives. New TOS eff. 1/10 state NO switchblades are to be listed. The old rule before 1/10 was NO switchblades over 2 inches were allowable.
Spammers and TOS violaters are who Yahoo wants to be rid of and that is WHY you are gone.
posted on January 12, 2001 07:14:11 PM new
Kasmoon - no one is crying, I’m a big girl, I don’t cry over such stupidity - period - I count what occurred as the cost of doing business with people who know little about what they are doing - not crying - but when auctions are closed which have no relationship to such - and aren't Spam, because there are items available for each post, and they are in the correct, but not same category - then they aren't Spam. On eBay one can post 15 of the same, as long as they are individual items, and I pay to post each one.
Regarding linking back to eBay feedback, I have always done that on all auction sites, including eBay - never had a problem with that or our web link before.
The "new" and/or additional rules have so many arbitrary holes in them, that it leave Yahoo to open to cancel anything depending on their mood. I personally, don't have the time, nor will spend the money to mess with such.
"......and aren't Spam, because there are items available for each post, and they are in the correct, but not same category...."
Sorry to bring this up jwpc, but that is considered spam, by Yahoo. It makes no difference if you can cover all of the listings with 'like items' available inventory. It is still considered spamming, to them. If these are closed auctions, of duplications you had listed. That's why they were 'canceled'.
posted on January 12, 2001 07:42:11 PM new
Some were, some weren't, but at the moment I think I'll go vacation at eBay for a while - there is too much turmoil going on at Yahoo. It is too hard to decipher some of Yahoo’s actions.
As I said in another thread, my daughter had an auction closed for absolutely no reason the other day, and then someone here mentioned that Yahoo had closed all the throwing knife auctions (and they are legal in CA), and I checked and at that time all had been closed....things like this, which seem to have no rhyme nor reason, isn't worth the time it takes to post, just to encounter some "mood" Yahoo is in or some Neighborhood Watch pest. I never encountered such unlike business activity at eBay.
posted on January 12, 2001 07:46:28 PM new
I'm with you there. Not giving you reason for the closings is unjustifiable. I feel there is no excuse for failure to state 'why' they were canceled.
posted on January 12, 2001 08:43:45 PM new
I don't think it's the Ebay link. I did far worse than that in my current Yahoo! listings, and they're still running (of course, maybe they haven't found them yet). Check out the listings for LadyImp. They don't actually DESCRIBE something that's not for sale on Yahoo!, but they sure make it clear that most of our stuff is for sale somewhere else.
posted on January 13, 2001 05:58:09 AM new
This AM I was greeted by numerous auction cancellation notices from Yahoo - and I sell European postcards, old books, children's books, and other small items that should be offensive to no one. In my auction descriptions I had added "offered only for a brief time due to Yahoo's new listing policies" - and I had added "Short Term Listing" and "Last Time Offered" to my titles. Yahoo is showing its true colors.
posted on January 13, 2001 06:14:05 AM new
JOJO85RN
Thanks for the post, at least I know I'm not alone -
My major problem with some of Yahoo cancellations is, for example, you are selling a totally allowable item on Yahoo, and zap it is cancelled in a Neighborhood Watch. There is basically nothing one can do, and particularly to find out what the problem is. One can't change a "problem," if there is one, when there is no explanation on why the cancellation occurred in the first place.
Basically, when I've had a legal item cancelled through a Neighborhood Watch, I could find no rhyme nor reason, except either it was a competitor doing it to eliminate competition, or for some reason, some person found it offended them.
Neither is a viable reason to cancel an auction. I did have one buyer absolutely furious and wrote me regarding the background color I used in a post!!!
It is just too easy to Neighborhood Watch an auction for no reason.
I am not implying I think these current massive cancellations relate to Neighborhood Watch, some may, some not, but to make a change one has to have an explanation - and as Hamlet said, "and there in lays the rub."
posted on January 13, 2001 06:17:05 AM new
Of course canceling all of a seller's auctions that were posted prior to January 10, is a good way to get money to repost all of them - just a thought!
Just think how many auctions went up prior to the 10th, and are set for 10 days and 2 relists - perhaps Yahoo decided that they'd just eliminate some and then the seller will have to pay to repost them.
posted on January 13, 2001 06:30:08 AM new
Thanks for your insights ~ interesting, though, as I receive these auction cancellation notices, the items still show up for sale in my "Selling Column". I can view who the winning bidders were from my vantage point (Seller's page, I guess you'd call it), but they have been removed from the auction item page itself - it appears as if the item has no bids- and the auction ticker is still running! So for my 239 auctions up - none APPEAR cancelled!
posted on January 13, 2001 10:11:39 AM new
I personally don't think anyone is qualified to determine if an auction is spam. I hope everyone with no sympathy for the way you and I and Rebel Guns have been treated gets theirs....in an (see: Mallrats) uncomfortable place. Like the backseat of a Volkswagen.
posted on January 13, 2001 10:26:58 AM new
Let me just say that YooHoo has done nothing to me personally beyond making it economically stupid to continue posting with them, and by that I mean by items need a real buying audience to be able to sell them IF I am paying to post them.
I have not had anything banned or cancelled by YooHoo. I do not deal in Neo-Nazi items, and have only ever sold antique Klan relics (and these only to Afro-Ameircan customers, by the way).
But I am against the prohibition because it is founded on illogical and inconsistant premises. As I stated before, there are MANY things in this world that could be argued to symbolize racism, sexism and genocide in some form or another. If we band everything someone might find offensive for some reason, it would be a pretty empty world.
Personally, I'm probably at least as much disgusted by Hitler mouse pads and KKK Now and Forever bumper stickers as the next guy. How do I deal with it? I don't post them and I don't buy them. I don't try and change the world. Only my own. I am not into cultural cleansing, as this brings back too many dark visions from the history books.
If anything is symbolic of Nazism and Klanism, it's supression of things undesirable. And I am against nything that resembles it.
I may not agree with what you believe, but I will always fight for your right to believe it, unless, of course, your belief goes beyond that to the point of supressing the rights of others to hold other beliefs.
posted on January 13, 2001 10:37:19 AM new
jojo85m you mean they have cancelled auctions which you have bidders on? I know that on Jan. 6 all my auctions for that day disappeared. I know I had a winner on one but never got to contact them as there was no final record submited by Yahoo. My repeated contacts with the Yahoo Canned Message Center finally got a response of there were no winners in my auctions for that day. I didn't "fight" it anymore. Is this just a Yahoo fluke or will it all be straightened out. If they are cancelling us for any drummed up reason, then I agree with an earlier observation that it is a way to get to the end result earlier regarding who's staying and who's going. Very interesting but stupid way to do business. "You should dance with what brung Ya" Yahoo. Ignoring the needs of your dance partners won't get you a second date.
posted on January 13, 2001 10:48:40 AM new
Well, to add to my thoughts on cancellations, not only canceling auctions, forces one to relist and PAY, but it also forces a seller to use up more of their credits from eBay feedback. I am not saying that this is what has caused some of the cancellations, only that it would financially benefit Yahoo. Just a thought!
posted on January 13, 2001 11:31:10 AM new
Hello all & Dreamgirl- I finally stopped getting cancellations notices - 18 in all- everything from old sheet music, porcelain items, religious postcards, to childrens books, and I was baffled! Esp since the auctions are still open in my selling column. Then I received an email from a new buyer, with a feedback rating of 4, (she had bought from me before, and yes, one of her feedback points was from me) - she told me she had been trying to bid on numerous items, but was limited to 5 tems total, until she reaches a feedback rating of 5. Her bid had been removed from the auctions she had bid on. So I SPECULATE that the emails I got from Yahoo, although titled "Auction cancellation", were actually cancellation of bids from Buyers with feedback less than 5. I remember that bidding limit is one of Yahoo's new policies. So that mystery MIGHT be solved, but who knows?
posted on January 13, 2001 11:52:27 AM new
"but was limited to 5 tems total, until she reaches a feedback rating of 5" - Yahoo's iceberg is approaching, and they won't even pay any attention to the advanced warnings. Full speed ahead! I bet they don't even have enough lifeboats on-board.
posted on January 13, 2001 02:30:56 PM new
Dear jwpc - I want to buy your magnifying glass, am in England, please contact me [email protected]! Best wishes.
