BearHollow
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posted on January 13, 2001 03:07:59 PM new
I am also sad that Yahoo has changed their policy and will be leaving the site. I am new to Ebay, but had listed two items and they both have bids on them for the same prices I had on Yahoo with never a nibble!! I think a final sale fee would be fair. Has anyone check into AuXpal for their free listings?
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tonymccc
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posted on January 13, 2001 04:56:12 PM new
probably going or maybe just a few auctions now and again.deadbeats make up 50% of my sales.lots of grief for little pay..
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amalgamated2000
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posted on January 13, 2001 08:46:06 PM new
I think eventually sales will be better. Until then I will hang in there! hijinks_us
First, it's clear from this thread that most sellers will be leaving. Most of those sellers are also Yahoo auctions buyers, so there is a major source of sales gone already.
But, moreover, do you really think that the site will draw more bidders when it only has 1/10 of the listings it has now? Why would anyone bother. Why not just go to Ebay where you can find virtually anything you want.
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superbuuck
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posted on January 14, 2001 05:48:43 AM new
I will have to leave. I alway post quality auctions but I will get more value for my auction paying dollar over at eBay. I will come back if they have FVF final value fees instead of listing fees. You gotta get the product up and listed first! I really praised Yahoo for that free service! Too bad it was short lived.
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molly001
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posted on January 14, 2001 07:00:10 AM new
Bearhollow - Several of us have been keeping up with AuxPal. Either I or another member will be asking them if they will guarantee free fees for life for those of us signing up now and will post the results. Another concern we've had is the fact that they do not show up in the search engines and this is being addressed with them as we speak by another member.
So far, this is what we know about AuxPal:
1) Customer Support is great! They respond in a timely manner and are making the changes that have been requested so far.
2) Categories are nice (at least for what I sell).
3) They will have a means to import your feedback from other sites.
4) They will have a bulk loader.
5) They just implemented a "Take It" price option.
Anybody can add to this if they want. These are the things I remember. I really think they look promising not to mention, I've read a few posts where new sales are already resulted from listing there.
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BearHollow
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posted on January 14, 2001 07:47:53 AM new
Thanks for the post, Molly001! AuXpal has recently implemented feedback import and a page counter. "Boyds" searches out fine, but then there are not a lot of listings yet.. mostly mine!!<P>
The first email I sent to their customer service was asking if they planned on being free in the future and received a quick reply: <P>
"We have no plans on charging any service fees at this time. It is our goal
to provide it free forever. To date, we have offered our services at NoBidding.com for almost two years free of charge.
<P>
We are not affiliated with PayPal at the moment but are working on an
arrangement with them. Hopefully we will be able to tie in with them soon.
<P>
Thanks and Happy Holidays.
<P>
AuXpal"
<P>
Somehow, I am not all that comfortable with expecting it to remain free from their contradictive statement.. "at this time", but "free forever". They have since come out and said the auction will be open to all bidders ... not just PayPal members which it had started out as. Anxiously awaiting the bulk loader since I will be giving it a try anyways!! <P>
Hugs n grins...<P>
Dianne, Southern Md
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davecrystal
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posted on January 14, 2001 09:10:44 AM new
I sell musical equipment, which is probably the most competetive category for auctions to begin with. I've tried Yahoo a few times, but absolutely no success. I did, however, read with interest the fact that I could use my 200 plus positive feedbacks as credits for featured listings with Yahoo, & as others have said - my plans for 2001 definitely included giving Yahoo another shot. Sorry, but not anymore. I'll stick with eBay thanks. At least my gear does sell there. And just for the record - JackWolfe - it's not the items that need to be removed from auctions - it's sellers with attitudes like yours.
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LindaAW
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posted on January 14, 2001 09:50:03 AM new
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auroranorth
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posted on January 15, 2001 01:37:46 AM new
cancelling 98% until I see what happens.
Mr wolf you arent being realistic or fair to the people you wrote about unless you walk a mile in my shoes you shouldn't throw stones
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glory20
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posted on January 15, 2001 04:27:41 AM new
I have listed my items between three different auctions, Axupal, Aucion Addict & E-Deal.i will try this for awhile to see what happens, & send out banners to all e-mail address i have stored, http://www.auxpal.com?refer=gloria20
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bobc15
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posted on January 15, 2001 06:25:45 AM new
I've left. I collect stamps for a hobby and no longer can get the inexpensive stamps I need on Yahoo due to their listing fees. One long time seller who had hundreds of auctions at any given time has gone to a new site, BidBay.com. That's where I'm going.
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happyone
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posted on January 15, 2001 09:48:05 PM new
I wrote Yahoo and told them they would lose many members they sent me a form letter back.I told them if I am going to pay fees I might as well go to Ebay as they get better traffic. Thats the key here is traffic why should I pay for no traffic.
I am leaving as soon as my listings fade out. And I have asked many aquaintances if they are staying they have all said they are leaving.
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fishnuts
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posted on January 16, 2001 03:00:26 PM new
What is this, the $0.25 question of the day ? Of course I'm leaving Yahoo !
Something that I should have done awhile ago.But now they put the icing on the cake. Imagine charging fees & recharging when the item doesn't sell !!! Next thing is to charge the "bidder" a bid fee.This way both the seller & the bidder get charged & Yahoo is doubling their money ! How about that you corporate jerks ! Bye Yahoo !
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auroranorth
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posted on January 16, 2001 03:40:30 PM new
as soon as yawhoo did this ebay hiked their fees just as yahoo was taking them on some clown wrecks it but don't despair I have a plan to save yawhoo,
first off the steak and lobster at company events has to be immediatly replaced with twinkies,second the peepers at yahoo's porn sites will now be charged a one time peepers fee regardless of what they look at the same fee will apply to people who only view auctions without actually buying anything.
a toll booth will be put into the corporate visitors parking lot and pay toilets in the lobby. t shirts will be sold to say I was with yahoo when they were not senile the sales of this alone should give them enough money to furnish all corporate offices in walnut, Hey auction watch how about switching the yahoo bulk loader for auxpay or pootah auctions?
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happiestg
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posted on January 16, 2001 03:55:03 PM new
To the last Poster......that was pretty funny I must say. LOL. But for me I told Yahoo and E-Bay to go fly a Kite or take a slow Boat to china....one way!
ePier , you sure look better everyday!!
Folks, try ePier, the owner is making that site look mighty nice! And according too him it will remain FREEEEEEEEEE.
That comes from the Horses Mouth.
ePier.com
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ms28
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posted on January 17, 2001 04:10:31 AM new
I'm going to wait and see what happens. Yes, Yahoo was the perfect place to sell lower priced items-even if you had to wait a few weeks for bidders.
However, I got tired of seeing cheap plastic/wood knock-offs in the antique and collectors section. A lot of sellers had bought the same gaudy and cheap merchandise from the same catalogue and apparently were trying to pass it along at a 300% mark-up. I've seen those same catalogues and I've seen their "recommended" mark-up. Who wants or needs to pay $49.95 for a plastic/wood oriental scene, manufactured in the year 2000. And list it in the antique section? Please!
Also, take a look at the outrageous beginning bid prices-especially on collectables. I sell McCoy pottery on eBay so I'm aware of what a fair price should be. On Yahoo, you have sellers listing cracked, chipped and in some cases, obviously fake items for the price at which they would command if the pieces were in mint condition. For instance, you can get a McCoy bowl and pitcher set in mint condition for usually less than $20 on eBay. There's an auction on Yahoo right now where the seller has a starting bid of $30-and that's just for the bowl.
If the less reputable sellers are weeded out and customer service improves, Yahoo sellers may benefit in the long run. Until then, I'll continue to sell high-end and collectable items on eBay and sell my less expensive quality itmes on another auction site.
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labbie1
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posted on January 17, 2001 04:49:21 AM new
Well Ebay is doing their part to help Yahoo survive at least. I just received a notice that Ebay is now raising their insertion fees. They are also charging for 10 day auctions, though the other auctions will not be charged.
They state that it is the first raise of insertion fees since 1996. Probably true, but in the intervening years, they have "dollar'd" and "quartered" us to death!
It's getting so expensive to sell on Ebay that even Yahoo is looking better.
AND as a buyer, it is getting so expensive to buy on Ebay and Yahoo and with the new shipping rates--well, it just isn't as attractive to sell or buy as it once was.
I am considering the possiblity of taking this season (which has been soft in all areas including b&m retail) off and waiting to see if next season will be better or just selling off my inventory and forgetting the whole thing altogether and concentrating on my hobbies which have been woefully neglected for the past 3 years.
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klee
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posted on January 17, 2001 05:39:16 AM new
I only used Yahoo for items which did not get buyers on eBay - to avoid duplication of eBay's high fees. But I have found that I'm not getting enough people looking at my items on Yahoo to make it worth my time to use the site if I have to pay insertion fees.
Also, I have had more troublesome bidders for my 50 or so Yahoo auctions than I had with my approximately 500 buyers on eBay. As it is with Yahoo now, I won't list with them.
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alanlondon
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posted on January 17, 2001 11:54:50 PM new
Who cares whether they raise fees? We all do!! High volume gives you fees, low volume doesn't, simple as that. I am pleased to say, as I run a small specialist auction that it means more sellers will consider using the smaller auctions. We charge no listing or final value fees, but we do charge for featured and bold auctions. This doesn't make huge profit but it does pay for the site running costs. Also because this site isn't overwhelmed with zillions of items our buyers know exactly what is for sale and whether it is good value; that's the advantage of the smaller sites, the buyers and sellers are generally specialists in the area and so they can develop an ongoing business relationship. I am delighted Yahoo have introduced fees, it will help us. Just look out for their Marketing Head to be leaving the company soon!
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winmaltese
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posted on January 18, 2001 07:12:00 AM new
A bit of both for us. Upon analyzing the costs vs bids posted, we must pull most of our listings that often take up to months to receive a bid. We have run 3-400 items on a regular basis. Now it will be 10-15 and perhaps to zero.Yahoo just shot both feet.
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winmaltese
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posted on January 18, 2001 07:31:27 AM new
Added note: Larger listing numbers get a reasonable play at AMAZON for $39.95/month you get up to 5000 listings and if the buyer pays with the Amazon one click, they waive the final value fees and they allow automatic relisting ( saves a lot of time) Plus you can run these lots on AMAZON from AW.pro listing.
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stockticker
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posted on January 18, 2001 08:38:21 AM new
I've been doing extremely well on Yahoo lately (I relisted just before Jan. 10 when fees started) since the listing order was changed.
When I first started on Yahoo in October, the listing order was already jumbled. I really had no idea how much of an impact that order was making on bids as I had no basis of comparison.
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glory20
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posted on January 18, 2001 08:48:41 AM new
"Everyone", check out BidBay.com, it is freeeeee, & looks realy good!!, Bid Bay. com
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auroranorth
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posted on January 18, 2001 09:18:01 AM new
got a notice today from excite they cancelled all nazi items without warning,
tried to go to pootah could not get in I suppose that someone somewhere objected to the name, Where is the ACLU ? To get a foot in the door you start with the most objectionable then work your way down the list. Politically correct mentality reminds me of the word from the book 1984 by George Orwell ''Goodthinkful"" when it became illegal to say happy. At least Excite did not start some bogus fee structure Yet, Now it the time for action smaller sites should jump on this fee thing like a pack of lawyers on an insurance company. I propose that each poster list an auction here as an alternative or better yet I will start a thread here called List an alternative auction Here.
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alanlondon
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posted on January 19, 2001 12:13:11 AM new
CollectorsCarAuction.com have already made their site free as a response to the Yahoo fees.
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busyasbees
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posted on January 19, 2001 11:20:59 AM new
Going....I agree with a few of the other persons on this thread. I believe they want this fail in order to eliminate the auctions from Yahoo. Certainly they the great minds at Yahoo would have gotten together and really expected this to increase their stock price! I'll be gone after my re-lists expire.
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RebelGuns
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posted on January 19, 2001 11:34:19 AM new
Wait until someone wakes up to the fact that Abe Lincoln was as big a racist as anyone in the Klan ever was (not only did he insist that Blacks would always be inferior, but in 1862 (and not the first time) he stated he wanted ALL Blacks out of the country, and Congress gave him $600,000 to begin his proposed deportation program, not even getting into the genocidal war he waged against the Native Americans.
But then, it's always easier to look the other way when finger pointing.
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auroranorth
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posted on January 19, 2001 12:16:04 PM new
Lincoln Now there's a subject. How many of you know that General Fremont when sent west to the Mississippi to Missouri Kansas areas immediatly freed all slaves an act for which honest Abe promptly fired him! Union troops then had to be dispatched to quell Fremont who began breaking that area of the nation away from both the North and South. Maybe I should run t shirts that say You can sell whatever Yahoo wants you to sell on the internet (for a fee) So Let's see what's next furs to appease the animal rights lunatics at PETA, or maybe The flag of the South to appease the radical left which was awfully silent when their boy began gutting programs that were originally designed to help the poor. and Now for French Hour 1.0
Did you know that France expects other idiotic procedures to be followed a few would be that if your french and have a foreign website you must register with France
the site? Did you know they are fining newspeople for violating French langauge only laws, so then if a site can censure nazi items or klan items or martian items based on French law could Yahoo be held accountable if say one of their citizens had a Yahoo store and did not register it with the French government, What should have happened is that these type of items should have only come up on a specific search request limited to id verified adults. It amazes me that there is no end to the clowns who seem to think that the average citizen cannot make up their own mind, what is sickening is the blatent corporate greed
lately that extends way beyond the internet or national borders. Then to cave in and give money to a bunch of French reds. Those clowns lost all credibility when 1 little Chinese guy stood in front of 3 of their tanks. I'll just bet egreed and amizone and Yawhoo are just dying to get their politically correct mitts on the Hard earned sub minimum wages millions of Chinese,
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RebelGuns
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posted on January 19, 2001 12:38:11 PM new
People who don't know real history are readily mislead...they'll believe anything, and rarely question it.
Look at all the empires, nations, religions and civilizations that have committed attrocities. So we ban Nazi and Klan stuff. We have the educational system to blame for this. Who cares about the truth? We believe whatever suits us and gets us through at least elemtnary school.
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mountaintop47
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posted on January 19, 2001 12:41:20 PM new
Gonna hang out for a while and be a little more careful with what I list. Still like Yahoo and would liek to sat...we will see.
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