posted on January 25, 2001 06:12:27 AM new
search "bid wins"
68449 Jan 10
41183 Jan 25
another search:
835 Jan 11
387 Jan 25
I have about 400 auctions listed and they are just starting to fall off today - the ones I did not bother to close and relist. I expect the decline to accelerate into the weekend and then plummet.
I have credits but will only be relisting about 10 or 12 of the 400 auctions.
posted on January 25, 2001 07:25:24 AM new
I have $1300+ in Yahoo credits. If anyone wants to buy them and my account it's all yours as I won't be listing with Yahoo anymore.
I would estimate that listings will be down over 60% by the first week of February.
posted on January 25, 2001 07:33:50 AM new
if you have $1300 Yahoo credits, let me ask you something. Are these credits from featuring auctions? or are they credits from transferring from Ebay. If they are from listings, you can cash them in and pocket the money! I had some credits from featuring auctions. I called Yahooand they verified it for me, so I just transferred the money back to my credit card! I hope this helps
posted on January 25, 2001 08:02:17 AM new
Your predictions are very inaccurate. I spent maybe 10 minutes just searching a few catagories with BULL listings, which I might ad have BULL bids, and BULL ratings, so when all is over and done those who packed yahoo with phoney items and phoney bidders it will appear that the site has dropped.
I must say this is a stupid move for people to do. How odvious.
Regardless of how the numbers drop, Yahoo will still be ahead. We wont have the BULL to sort thru when we buy. They will lose the garbage listings such as "ask me" or "email me" type listings which lead to no where. Which has been done since Yahoo's auctions were born.
Yahoo's fee's may seem extreme to you. It is the only way to stop the madness of sellers who put 1000 listings of nothing just to fill a space.
posted on January 25, 2001 08:09:48 AM new
"Yahoo's fee's may seem extreme to you. It is the only way to stop the madness of sellers who put 1000 listings of nothing just to fill a space. "
That is Correct, AND it also stops the madness of sellers who put 1-20 listings
with SOMETHING that is Non-"Junk"
posted on January 25, 2001 08:12:47 AM new
rolllanotherone,
I'd guess that the excitement is really building then. Just think how ecstatic you'll be in another week or so when more, lots more, of their listings vanish.
posted on January 25, 2001 08:47:03 AM new
Hi Paloma,
I just spent ten minutes on hold and finally was told by Yahoo that this is not the case. They only will let you use these feature credits for using their useless services!!
posted on January 25, 2001 08:47:20 AM new
go to Paydirect, enter your security key. Look under "Move Money: Then pick the $ amount to want to move. In the "FROM" field, change that to your Pay Direct account and in the "TO" field, change that to your Credit card number. Then press continue. From the posts I have read and talking to the paydirect folks, the quickest way to get your money to you is to apply it to your credit card. I was told it takes a long time to get a check mailed to you and it is difficult so I always use this method. It is usually completed within a day or two. I hope this helps.
posted on January 25, 2001 09:12:08 AM new
I have been using the Yahoo "email alert" thing for over a year now. I buy COLT firearms Memorabilia, so I use the word "COLT" for my alerts.
Colt firearms and Colt memorablila represents a genuine high end collectable. Not only are many of the vintage firearms valuable, but so are the catalogs, posters, non-gun items, ect. Its not at all unusuall to find all manner of COLT Memorabilia being offered at the worlds finest auction houses.
In the past, every morning when I checked my email, that alart list would be full, perhaps 20, 30 or even more new items every day. I found, cap guns, ads, catalogs, even vintage guns and accessories. In the past, I used these "alerts" to go in and place a bid. It worked well for me.
Well, that was then - this is now. I no longer get an "alert" every day as I did in the past. I no longer spend my first minutes online every day browsing through interesting COLT items on yahoo.
These days, I get an alert every three days or so. The alerts I get latley are mostly for Porno (seems there is a porn star named Colt something or other).
True, that porn was there before - but I didn't notice it as I was busy looking at REAL colt stuff.
Long and the short of my comments are, Yahoo DID ALREADY HAVE a nice selection of truely quality and high end collectable items. I saw them every AM in my email. Today - they have crap, nothing at all I'm interested in, and nothing I will even look at.
Its OK that an attempt be made to get rid of the "BULL" as its been refered to, problem is, what YAHOO has managed to do is to literally throw the steak out with the bull poop.
Unless something truely amazing happens at Yahoo auctions, it is very unlikely that I will ever find another interesting COLT item there again...
BTW, if anyone is interested in old COLTS, please visit my web pages at http://www.geocities.com/rustybore/ (some of these fine old guns came from Yahoo)
tyops have been inserted
[ edited by rustybore on Jan 25, 2001 09:13 AM ]
posted on January 25, 2001 09:14:40 AM new
That's right BATBAT- those of us who are happy with selling 20 or more items a week can do that, right now we have to list thousands of items to be seen, when the "Social Club" leaves because it is no longer a free ride we can just list as we sell. I am not referring to anyone here.
I do just fine with one page running, it's easier to keep track of inventory and monitor the buying trends.
I have enough items to play with already in yahoo until everything is settled. To list something new right now would be rediculous until after the 1st of feb.
posted on January 25, 2001 09:16:54 AM new
Likewise, I never had a problem finding anything I wanted on Yahoo. If "junk" got in anyone's way, it's probably because they didn't even have a clue as to how to function on the site.
posted on January 25, 2001 09:45:44 AM new
rolllanotherone >
Dimview- Blah, blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah
I just took a look at a Yahoo!Auctions seller, all stamps.
He's got 53 current items listed. A quick calculation shows he "paid" $15.65 in listing fees. (I think he might be using "funny money" because he listed items at $10.00 rather than $9.99, or $25.00 rather than $24.99, which would have reduced those overall listing fees.) And 20 items are featured, and at a minimum ten cents per day, "feature" fees at least $14.00. So we're talking $29.65 in total fees.
He's got two bids on those 53 items.
Sure, he could sell a few more in the next week so let's see how he did last week.
He sold nine items last week for a total of $56.25 in bids.
If these are typical week-to-week listing and sales figures, Yahoo!Auctions is getting 53% of the pie, he's left with 47% and that's before his costs of acquiring inventory.
I don't think he's doing all that well. What do you think?
Corrected typo.
[ edited by dimview on Jan 25, 2001 09:56 AM ]
Of course colt is a nice gun. I'm from Nevada, used to carry a twelve gage in my vehicle for snakes(two legged) it is not unusual in Nevada because of the rattlers as long as it's not sawed off and they weren't concealed. When I moved to CA, my gun was taken away, I guess CA would rather you conceal it?
Your dealing with an item that has interstate regulations by too many federal agencies that have to be met and probably Colt. The sale of a firearm is not the problem, it's how it is being transported to you and what state you are in. Yahoo has to obide the federal regulations since the auction format is considered mail order.
posted on January 25, 2001 10:11:51 AM new
Sometimes I think I woke up in the wrong world. You can buy a gun via Yahoo that could kill somebody, but you can't buy a swastika because you might insult somebody.
posted on January 25, 2001 10:27:31 AM new
rolll ... I also heard that air rifles are not allowed to be sold. Dangerous weapons those. Hell, that big "POP" could cause Grannie's heart to stop.
As a matter of fact, I'd rank them right up there with lawn darts, another killing machine.
Rustybore ... great stuff! Being a Canadian, I am not hung up on the need to own a gun, but Colt sure made some neat looking ones. Good luck with these and your collecting
posted on January 25, 2001 10:30:55 AM new
Dimview,
Your calculations sound so familiar, who cares what Joe blow is doing? A situation, You, my friend, are familiar with the fact there are people deliberately listing nothing in the catagories you, my friend, are monitoring. For instance, in the stamp catagory I saw several listings with titles like "Shipping info shipping info shipping info" opening bid $100. there was nothing on the page but, all it said was check my "About me page" others simply said email me @ Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah!!
That, my friend is a violation of Yahoo's TOS's. At the bottom of every page there is a link to this info.
An unsuccessfull atempt to make it look like there was anything going on to begin with.
Your ANalysys is not at all accurate,It wont count until the air has cleared and we have a seller base of serious sellers. The only losers will be the people who were using yahoo as a "social club" without identifying themselves and having more then one account to bid and pretend a sale went thru just to get a rating.
They will no longer want to pay 20 cents to socialize.
I am not referring to anyone here so you dont need to get upset.
posted on January 25, 2001 10:49:04 AM new
Pre 1898 firearms are considered "antique" by the BATF. This is why they can be bought and sold on Yahoo. Most are chambered for obsolete calibers, or in condition that would not premit them to be safely fired.
While a few states - notably New Jersey and Mass. may have some state specific laws goverening these antiques, there is no overriding Federal regulations involved in their sale or transfer...
Beyond the auctual firearms themselves, there are, (or were) as I mentioned in my last post, a huge amount of other COLT related items for sale here on Yahoo. Everything from factory bill heads, to the famous "COLTROC' plastic electrial items.
That stuff is all gone now... recent "email alert's" have had items like;
PLAYTIME w/Nikki Tyler, low shipping,
TIM BROWN 4 Card Mint Rookie Lot - Raiders - Notre Dame - No Reserve - PayPal, and
GAY XXX COLT - ISSUE NO. 2 - VINTAGE 1980...
A far cry from the last item I bought on Yahoo, which was a somewhat rare "tin" Colt pistol box, (just the box) for which I gladly paid $49.00...
posted on January 25, 2001 10:59:38 AM new
Anything that goes pop in our area is treated on a duck and cover basis. New years and the 4th of July is spent doing this.
posted on January 25, 2001 11:09:25 AM new
rolllanotherone,
Your calculations sound so familiar, who cares what Joe blow is doing? A situation, You, my friend, are familiar with the fact there are people deliberately listing nothing in the catagories you, my friend, are monitoring.
I chose the categories before the listing fees were implemented. Others, following other categories, are finding comparable declines in listings.
So just how were we able to select only those categories where "there are people deliberately listing nothing". And, if so, just what categories do you find with an increase in listings?
For instance, in the stamp catagory I saw several listings with titles like "Shipping info shipping info shipping info" opening bid $100. there was nothing on the page but, all it said was check my "About me page" others simply said email me @ Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah!!
I just did a check in the entire Auctions > Coins, Paper Money, & Stamps group of categories with keyword search shipping info and found 148 listings all with legitimate items. There were ZERO bogus spamvertisements or other "junk" listings.
Your ANalysys is not at all accurate,It wont count until the air has cleared and we have a seller base of serious sellers. The only losers will be the people who were using yahoo as a "social club" without identifying themselves and having more then one account to bid and pretend a sale went thru just to get a rating.
Ummmm, I've only led off each day's thread with a tabulation of listings. They are accurate unless you're asserting that I'm falsifying the numbers. Only in the follow-ups am I giving my interpretation of the numbers, which I believe already reflect "serious sellers" chosing to leave Yahoo!Auctions. Many of these sellers are now posting items at alternative auctions sites.
You see, Yahoo!Auctions did not implement listing fees to get rid of spamvertisements, they implemented listing fees because they view sellers as "cash cows" they can "milk".
Since Yahoo!Auctions now requires CC verification, and other safeguards, how much self-bidding is going on? Or do they have multiple CCs with different names and addresses?
And BTW, I think I'll enjoy following the auctions of "Joe Blow". He seems to have such low expectations for his auctions and it will interesting to see what he decides to do after that "funny money" is gone and he'll have to start paying in cold, hard cash.
So how are your auctions doing?
Corrected formatting to get UBB working.
[ edited by dimview on Jan 25, 2001 11:13 AM ]
posted on January 25, 2001 12:44:29 PM new
Dinview-
Since you are directing to me I will direct to you.
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah
I feel sorry for this seller you are haunting with your calcultor. Did you do to him, what has been done to me more then once in any auction house? DID you post your so called analysys in his question box to express your views in a threatening manner when it is none of your business to begin with?
Then attack that seller with threats of knowing where they live? DO you brag about having 5 accounts in YAhoo and the other auction houses because you are so bright and can destroy them where-ever they go? Did you contact some of the other people this seller has sold to and complained to them? Well this guy did. This person thought I was a man, If this was you, Now I understand why you were so upset over my comments. LMAO!!
That is the only kind of activity, my friend, making the numbers go down.
I hope this person plans on paying for the items they won and has more then a calculator when they show up if they decide to keep their threat.
This is not in regards to anyone here. This is just what has been happening to me.
posted on January 25, 2001 01:13:08 PM new
rolllanotherone>
I feel sorry for this seller you are haunting with your calcultor. Did you do to him, what has been done to me more then once in any auction house? DID you post your so called analysys in his question box to express your views in a threatening manner when it is none of your business to begin with?
I consider it more like a free appraisal and certainly don't see any need to fill Yahoo!Auctions question boxes with anything.
Then attack that seller with threats of knowing where they live? DO you brag about having 5 accounts in YAhoo and the other auction houses because you are so bright and can destroy them where-ever they go? Did you contact some of the other people this seller has sold to and complained to them? Well this guy did. This person thought I was a man, If this was you, Now I understand why you were so upset over my comments. LMAO!!
Sorry, but I don't understand what problem you could possibly be having at Yahoo!Auctions. But now that they've enhanced the auction experience, I'm sure those problems will be a thing of the past.
And I think you misread my earlier comments. I found your comments amusing, not upsetting.
BTW, I have SINGLE userIDs at AuXPal, BidBay, eBay, ePier, Lycos Auctions (apparently, but can't seem to logon with it), Pootah and Yahoo!Auctions. I use my accounts to both buy and sell. Every auction I have ever won has been paid.
That is the only kind of activity, my friend, making the numbers go down.
Actually, sellers who have observed that Yahoo!Auctions cannot generate enough traffic that justify listing fees are making the listings numbers decline. Period.
I hope this person plans on paying for the items they won and has more then a calculator when they show up if they decide to keep their threat.
Threats should be reported to both the auction site and the originating ISP.
Oops. Forgot Pootah in my userID list.
[ edited by dimview on Jan 25, 2001 01:20 PM ]
posted on January 25, 2001 02:30:00 PM new
canvid13, that is very strange that they said you cannot take the money out. Did you try? When I spoke to them, they said it was no problem. Why dont you try it and let me know what happens.
posted on January 25, 2001 04:21:11 PM new
I believe these # will level off in early Feb, And yahoo auctions will become a some what vacant entity as far as internet auctions go...
