RB
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posted on November 19, 2001 10:06:34 AM new
Just register using a new email address and log in. Them you can at least read the boards
I don't want to read the boards! I was simply suggesting that you do, in fact, have to be registered to be able to do this contrary to what tooltimes has led us to believe.
But you can't post until you give them a CC or get a +1 rating. Heck open an account under your cats name
I'd have to use my other cat's CC ... the male cat has already provided his CC number to AW to allow me the priviledge of chatting with you guys. Who says cats aren't man's best friend 
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reality1
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posted on November 19, 2001 10:32:00 AM new
But Buzz you are missing some the the best jokes on the web. Better than paddedwalls.com LOL
Edited to add: Bribe the male with a can of Fancy Feast tuna. I bet he'll give in
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RB
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posted on November 19, 2001 10:53:28 AM new
Bribe the male with a can of Fancy Feast tuna. I bet he'll give in
If I did that, I have to stop buying stuff from you guys. Tuna is more expensive than kitty-slop that my cats feast on now ... don't wanna start something (other than auction buying) that I can't afford
I thought about bribing him with a piece of the Colonel's best chicken, but neither he nor his twin sister have ever tasted people food during their almost 6 years of life.
Besides, people food is bad for animals!
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Romahawk
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posted on November 19, 2001 12:58:01 PM new
tooltimes said
"Why would Bidville require the registration to merely view a message center when no other sites requires this action?"
Doesn't this site require not only registration but also credit card registration to post here. If you don't object to that why would you have a problem registering at an other site even if it is just to view the boards? I think if I were to start a message board at my site I would like to know and be able to control who was using it even if it was a lurker who was only there to gather info to use in either a good or a destructive way at some other message forum.
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reality1
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posted on November 19, 2001 01:03:23 PM new
Buzz
Yep I know what you mean. My cat is lucky to get canned food ounce or twice a year it’s cat chow for her or starve. Beside the more you feed’em the more litter ya have to buy. It costs at both ends LOL
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KodiHeglin
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posted on November 19, 2001 01:06:42 PM new
I wasn't pouting you whiner.LOL And I never removed the banner, JB has it hosted on his website. More disinformation. I do the best I can on the artwork for banners on BV. Everyone wants to make sure nobody is offended by a "Christmas Sale" go figure. So only dull neutral graphics. I make lots of money building websites so say what you want and I'll keep spending the money.LMAO
I see you are all enjoying scrutinizing everyone else but won't show anything to prove you are any better. SSDD over here. Whiners.
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reality1
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posted on November 19, 2001 01:13:52 PM new
Romahawk
I think if I were to start a message board at my site I would like to know and be able to control who was using it even if it was a lurker who was only there to gather info to use in either a good or a destructive way at some other message forum.
Just think if you had to register at every site on the web for access. That would be a mess. As far as control goes what happened to free speech.
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ballzandstrikes
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posted on November 19, 2001 03:46:21 PM new
Romahawk it is simple. Why should ANYONE trust Ed the Idiot with credit card information?
I hope the decent people there are not taken by a con artist.
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Romahawk
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posted on November 19, 2001 05:44:01 PM new
Gosh this poor guy Ed at Bidville gets beatup on all the message boards. I really haven't had time to read the Bidville message boards but I'll have to take a peek. I have a half dozen boards that I frequent plus working on my own site that keeps me occupied but I guess I can stretch my time to watch one more message base. I suspect he probably fell into the trap of trying to please everybody and then trying to reverse some decisions that were not popular. Flip flopping sort of puts you on the fence with both sides after your hide. Sort of a darned if you do and darned if you don't situation.
As for the other issue mentioned, that of control versus free speech. I think we all know there is freedom of speech and then there is free speech. One is good and the other needs to be deleted as soon as it is found.
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ballzandstrikes
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posted on November 19, 2001 06:07:25 PM new
Now wait a minute. I NEVER said Ed was poor. Nor did I call him a liar, a moron a jacka$$ a jerk a pig or anything else which MIGHT resemble him. I called him an IDIOT!
That was the only trap he fell into. He was trapped into being an IDIOT.
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reality1
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posted on November 19, 2001 07:07:07 PM new
ROFLMAO
my tummy hurts
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tooltimes
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posted on November 19, 2001 10:53:58 PM new
Kodi,
I wasn't pouting you whiner.LOL And I never removed the banner
From the BV message board on 11/7
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11/7 Kodiak wrote:
I am no longer for the betterment of BidVille. My horizons are going to have to broaden I think. Now that the site is closed to many newcomers and some old hands it seems to magnify all that I did not like about the place in the beginning.
Suzi may have more staying power than me, I will ask if she wants to take over the search by location pages. My BV Banners page will come down tonight. I will be switching to auction and web templates and away from BidVille Related projects. Since I will no longer be a seller I will post on whos threads or suzis threads as their friend, but no more opinions from me.
Back to The Bay and Y!
Kodiak
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from the BV message board on 11/8 W.V. HillBilly wrote:
Personally!! I think this s u c k s that we have lost another good Buyer & Seller. Kodiak was my pal, and she contributed greatly to Bidville. Always friction and flaming and feelings hurt on these miserable set of so called boards. This is where all of the $h!t has started since the boards began. I noticed Kodiak did take some of her designs with her. I had some RED X`S on my "About Me". I just tossed the whole link out. I can`t really blame her for her move.
!!!!!!!!!!!1
Okay, the sale banner was untouchable on JB's site but you childishly withdrew you artwork that others were using when you quit in a huff. Quite a personality you have there Kodi.
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zzyzx000
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posted on November 19, 2001 11:50:34 PM new
I have had a pretty good look at Bidville this year. I dumped 2000 listings there in February from Yahoo, where I was selling 15 items a day before fees. I was travelling most of the year so I didn't worry about how I was doing on Bidville.
When I got a sale I would email the winner when I was going to be home to ship and let them decide if they wanted to go through with the deal. How many finished or backed out is irrelevant. The fact is that all year I only sold about 20 items. That's not quite the whole story because I have some regular customers for one type of item, and I brought them with me to Bidville.
I like to use Bidville to list a new item while on the road...and less work than maintaining a web site...plus you never know when a newbie will stumble along and become a regular customer.
Plus, at first I thought the good Dr. would take the ball and run with it. He got half a million listings dumped in his lap by accident, and thus had a chance to make his site be a contender. But it has not happened. I've been home for 2 weeks now and am relisting most itmes on Half.com, Yahoo Warehouse, and Amazon Marketplace. I've got 1000 items listed so far and am already averaging almist 10 sales a day from the same merchandise as I had on Bidville.
I've left most my stuff on Bidville (except what I sell elsewhere of course) except the books. I cancelled all 700 of them because I only sold 1 book on Bidville all year. I've sold 20 of those expensive books on Amazon so far this month.
I could tell you my disappointment with Bidville not accepting ANY of the suggestions I made early this year about how t make a better site. I even designed a sophisticated listing tree for computer stuff and posted it on their board and gave it to them. They didn't change a thing. All they have done is mostly implement little ways to nickel and dime the sellers, which may be a good short term way to pay the bills, but has not improved the site or sales.
The bottom line is, It doesn't really matter. There are no buyers, so any suggestions or gripes are irrelevant.
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robertsmithson
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posted on November 21, 2001 10:13:25 AM new
I have one more Bidville observation, this one concerning the use of the Message Center chatboards. The Message Center was obviously created to allow both Bidville sellers and buyers have an easy, on-site way of communicating with each other.
If I may, I'd like to compare the Message Center in Bidville to a hospitality coffee lounge at a bookstore or other retail establishment. The room is provided for free for store patrons to enjoy and to communicate with their fellow shoppers. What happens when the shoppers start talking about other competiting stores, talking about methods to reduce the need to shop at the store, talking about the faults and virtues of the store, gossiping about store personnel and fellow shoppers, talking about store products to avoid, telling dirty or racist jokes in a loud voice, forming elite discussion groups meant for members only but not formally set up in that manner, etc. ,etc?
In many ways it's much worse at the Bidville Message Center because those hospitality room conversations are recorded for all new store patrons to read in the future. Now let's say the store is not exactly a gold mine and can not have employees constantly in attendance to make certain that the behavior in the hospitlity room is acceptable, that fact really places the users of the room on their best behaviour and a quasi-honor system.
Can anyone else see this coorelation? Bidville has tried to remind members of courtesy violations with this item added to their Message Boards Terms of Service:
Added 3/18/01: Messages posted containing names, nicknames or email addresses of other BidVille members for the purpose of reporting 'bad sellers' or 'bad buyers' are prohibited. Please realize that the message boards were not created for this. The best weapon available at this time is the appropriate use of the feedback forum. However, we do support our members using the Traderlist at http://www.traderlist.com. This site is in our opinion the best place to report and learn about 'deadbeats'.
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Of course this analogy can also be compared to the AW Message Center and the many violations of its rules of conduct and common courtesy to the host provider.
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RB
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posted on November 21, 2001 10:52:49 AM new
I'm not sure what your point is, but if you are suggesting that the BV forums are the source of their biggest problems, you wouldn't be alone.
The solution is simple - eliminate them completely.
His "moderation" is only hit and miss anyway, and the only kinds of posts that seem to upset Him (thus causing His knee to jerk, thus resulting in new, unpublished spur-of-the-moment rules), are those that reveal what a fake or failure that He really is.
For example, the "doctor" posts ... He canned those almost immediately when He couldn't win (He was arguing with His own members in these threads).
For example, the "porn pop-up" posts ... He didn't want to admit that He was using these as a source of income and He stopped those threads pretty fast too when the proof started rolling in.
As to posts (or those discussions in the bookstore coffee shop) about competitors, as long as they are not slanderous or libelous, what's the big deal? If a business has enough confidence in themselves they will welcome talk about their competition.
If the talk reveals that the competition is better, most business owners will listen and take steps to "catch up" (i.e. compete).
If the business owner is either not willing to make his business better, or is too lead-headed to understand the conversation, he will terminate the discussion.
JMHO tho ...
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bidsbids
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posted on November 22, 2001 09:06:36 AM new
Let's have a pool to see you guesses the closest number of days before WallyP or Wallster from A-cow quits posting to the pathetic BV boards. I saw one week.
BTW, when Cuff was thinking up a user name I bet she asked her husband for an idea but misheard his answer.
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bidsbids
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posted on November 22, 2001 09:10:25 AM new
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RB
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posted on November 22, 2001 09:23:47 AM new
bidbids ... if you are referring to "wallypog", you need to give your head a really good shake. She is one the best on-line presences out there.
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bidsbids
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posted on November 22, 2001 09:40:13 AM new
Wally is being hammered by Cuff and pestered by JB. Cuff will not allow any constructive criticim of BV whatsoever. Cuff was very critical of Wally when she listed a few BV items that needed fixing here on the AW boards and suggested she bring those comments to the BV boards only. Those comments are now on the BV boards and still there is the attack from Miss Congeniality, Cuff.
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RB
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posted on November 22, 2001 09:53:51 AM new
My bad 
I mis-read your post and incorrectly perceived that you have a problem with wallypog
I'm surprised she has lasted this long over there.
I still say BV should terminate their forums completely. CuFF et al can't come here (they have all been suspended under their various IDs), so it would have the added benefit of drying up their audience. Let them rant amongst themselves via email.
btw, I just bought another 9 items on a direct basis from different Bidville sellers (I am still not allowed to play over there). None of them participate on the forums and I am willing to bet that if I suggested they go there and have a look, they would all pull their listings from Bidville immediately.
It's too bad a bunch of good people aren't getting a chance to do their auction thing because of the nut cases who pollute the venue with their forum garbage and turn off potential new buyers.
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barncards1
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posted on November 22, 2001 10:07:10 AM new
JB said nothing wrong to wally:
do you want to know how I know??
JB:}} HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL:
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bidsbids
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posted on November 22, 2001 11:04:42 AM new
JB, I consider this remark a pestering remark that you made.
There are a ton of good reasons & I am sure You are smart enough to realise some of them.
Here is an example of a very mean-spirited Cuff remark to WallyP ....
Maybe someone at A-Cow will tell ya where to get a good bulk loader Wallster.
That all but says "why don't you go back to Carnaby where you belong".
Keep it up Cuff You'll single handedly get the BV boards shut down with your TOS violations. You Go Girl!
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barncards1
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posted on November 22, 2001 11:29:18 AM new
Bids:::
Why did you not read the hole post??????
I also added this:
Wally there are a ton of great questions as to why do this or why not do that.. I do not have the answers.
I don`t think ED has them eather. I know when I did my site BV opened the doors first. Mine was still being worked on. BV has a ton of people here and I have a few on my site but ED has a lot more Brains than I do.. He also has people that know how to do this stuff in a profresionial manner I do not I do it by my self...
The site has come a long way from day one so has mine.
BV will be here if they keep doing what they have been doing to me the Y has not seen much activeity from me since I left. now the BAY that is another story..
JB:}}
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RB
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posted on November 22, 2001 01:22:48 PM new
The "hole" post???
Now there's a Fruedian Slip if I've ever seen one ...
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reality1
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posted on November 22, 2001 01:39:41 PM new
Buzz
I don't get it. Could you please explain that one in depth. LOL
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barncards1
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posted on November 22, 2001 02:48:03 PM new
I think he is refiring to my speling:}}
whole hole who gives a crap:
JB:}
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RB
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posted on November 22, 2001 03:40:06 PM new
JB ... if you had a brain and knew what a Fruedian Slip is, you'd get it
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reality1
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posted on November 22, 2001 03:47:06 PM new
No comment
This is a test
of self control.
[ edited by reality1 on Nov 22, 2001 03:50 PM ]
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bidsbids
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posted on November 22, 2001 04:26:45 PM new
I love the way the new verification system is so simple to use.
Here's a post from a veteran BVer with high feedback numbers that signed up on 1/19/01 ....
Where can I send my yearly $5 fee to stay verified? Thanks
If that doesn't show what an idiotic system that is in place at BV I don't what can better illustrate it.
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wallypog
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posted on November 22, 2001 11:00:30 PM new
Time out, you guys!!
Geez, if I'm liable to quit posting anywhere in the next week it's just as likely here as anywhere else.
Bidsbids, with all due respect, Cuff was not referring to Carnaby when she mentioned A Cow. I know where she was talking about and so does she. I don't believe I can post the name here because it's another independent message board service for the discussion of auction sites.
In some cases more is being read into those posts than is actually there. In other cases, not so.
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