posted on August 16, 2004 07:11:48 PM"But the fact remains, gay men and women are citizens of this country and human being too" "So are the members of the KKK!" "And they have the better interests of this country at heart,more so than the Queers do. Even if they go about it the wrong way."
That's the most outrageous comment that I have read here. dadofstickboy.
What better interests of this country do you believe the KKK have?
posted on August 16, 2004 07:35:42 PM
Yellow, if you do not like what goes on at the parades then why are you watching. Why is it the ones that are always the most offended by things seem to watch every bit of the parade and know what people are wearing and how much the clothing is or is not covering their body. I suppose you complain about all the women at the beach that wear a thong?
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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Thank you for asking that. I didn't believe that when I read it too. Some people say so much about themselves when they post here.
Yellow,
I don't know if that is a realistic question. I would know what the basic idea of the parade was before I went. That is, antique car parade has antique cars. KKK parade has bigots in it. And gay pride parade has Gay Americans in it.
I probably wouldn't take any child to a gay pride parade in the fact they are kids and as such, there is no real need to them to attend such a parade.
I would never take a child, or an adult to a KKK parade. That goes for a blind and deaf adult too. There is NO NEED for anyone to see or hear these bigots at any time. PERIOD!
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we! They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” ~ George W. Bush, 8/5/04
[ edited by yeager on Aug 16, 2004 07:43 PM ]
posted on August 16, 2004 07:43:42 PM
yellow: These parades are not behind closed doors, they are performed on city streets where people along with their children can easilly view the spectacle or people are driving by with their children and they also view the spectacle.
I don't know how you can say people driving by with their children can see the parade. Here in Chicago the parade goes on for at least 5 - 6 miles. The parade route is closed off to traffic so it means the only people that see what is going on during the parade are the ones that actually want to see it. Do the other parades in your town actually let cars drive by while the parade is going on. I don't think so. Furthermore, the parades are usually published well in advance as to when they will be held. Those who are easily offended can easily choose not to be around that area. Secondly, the parades are held in the gay section of town. If straights are easily offended by the gay parade what are they doing living in the gay neighborhood to begin with?
Please do not tell me you are like Colin who makes assumptions about what goes on without actually seeing a parade in its entirety. (Colin made assumptions about gay life being portrayed on TV but then admits he never watched a gay program.)
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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We the people, in order to form a more perfect Union....
.....one Nation indivisible, With Liberty and Justice for ALL.
posted on August 16, 2004 07:54:26 PM
People who oppose gay pride parades should also know they occur in every major city or in the suburbs of major city. That includes in the United States, Canada, and Europe.
After what Bush has done to make things difficult for this segment of the population, I almost feel the need to donate time and or money to Gay Rights groups.
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we! They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” ~ George W. Bush, 8/5/04
posted on August 16, 2004 08:02:20 PM
Logansdad
Do you mean like how I have noticed your new sig line image and how it shows someone with the crack of their ass showing and he obviously has his penis out of his pants. I'll bet you look at that image and giggle to yourself every so often. A thong at the beach does not qualify because there is a place for everything.
Yeager said;
I would never take a child, or an adult to a KKK parade. That goes for a blind and deaf adult too. There is NO NEED for anyone to see or here these bigots at any time. PERIOD!
I would never defend the KKK and what they stand for but hey what happened to free speech??
Ok, I see a possible flaw in this post that some cleaver person will probably call me on as it pertains to free speech. So I will just nip it in the bud right here beforehand. I never said that I object to homosexual pride parades, what I object to is the lewd and lascivious behavior.
posted on August 16, 2004 08:19:04 PM
logansdad
Like I said before that I could go Google and find you some images of these parades and I have no doubt that you will see children in the backgrounds in the images while homosexuals parade past wearing their revealing costumes. Do you really want me to go find some of these images for you. I think that most here would prefer that I don't, so I won't. Oh and I never make assumptions.
I really wonder who might be at fault if these kids were at a gay pride parade? Would it be the people involved in the parade or the parent/guardian who took them there? The word guardian has the root word "guard". It seems to me they aren't doing their duty to guard the best interest if they take them to a situation that is inappropriate.
Thus, it is the fault of the adult.
Whose fault would it be if the parent took the child to a strip club?
Whose fault would it be if the parent took the child to a bar?
Whose fault would it be if the parent took the child to a drug house?
Whose fault would it be if the parent took the child to a adult book store?
The answer is the parent, the parent, the parent, and the parent. And I am sure that you know it too.
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we! They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” ~ George W. Bush, 8/5/04
posted on August 16, 2004 08:31:59 PMDo the other parades in your town actually let cars drive by while the parade is going on.
By yes, through no.
Secondly, the parades are held in the gay section of town.
Really, they actually have a gay section of town, I don't think so.
If straights are easily offended by the gay parade what are they doing living in the gay neighborhood to begin with?
Well you see this is how it happens. A straight couple moves in to an apartment in a nice neighhborhood where all the other people that live there are also straight. Then all of a sudden a couple of years later a homo couple moves in to the vacant apartment next door. While drinking coffee with his straight friend that lives a few doors down they discuss the situation and they both notice that there are homos moving in all over the place. They both look at each other and I swear at the same time they both say; Well there goes the neighborhood, time to move.
I know EXACTLY what you mean!!! It's the very same thing that happens when "coloreds" move in, right?? Once one moves into the neighborhood, the whole place starts to go downhill, right???
Earlier you said,
Oh and I never make assumptions
How would you know they are a "homo" couple? Did they tell you they are? Did you see them having sex? They might be brothers or cousins sharing rental expense. Have you ever thought of that?
If they were gay, and never talked to you, or had any contact with you, how would having them as neighbors affect you? It wouldn't and you know it.
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we! They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” ~ George W. Bush, 8/5/04
[ edited by yeager on Aug 16, 2004 08:45 PM ]
posted on August 16, 2004 08:46:55 PM
Yeager
That is not an adequate response as to fault. Because as I have said before there is a place for everything. Lewd and lascivious behavior DOES NOT belong on city streets.
A parent can't possibly know beforehand what to expect at the homosexual pride parade. What if the parent had never been to one before or if the parent had been to some other parades but they happened to be mild.
Then all of a sudden with little Timmy waving at the paraders and having a good time a scantilly dressed homosexual male walks around the corner with his butt showing for all to see and he is hanging onto the arm of another homosexual male dressed like a giant erect penis. It's not the parents fault that little Timmy witnessed this.
posted on August 16, 2004 08:51:52 PM
Yeager
It was just a story you silly twit and then you said; How would you know they are a "homo" couple? Did they tell you they are? Did you see them having sex? I guess i'd better add my answer to these questions to my story. Yes to all. There are you satisfied with that.
posted on August 16, 2004 09:05:16 PM
Well, apparently the parent doesn't really care about what the child might see. If the parent took the child to a gay parade parade in the past, that tell something about the naive parent. According to you, this parade will be an eye opener.
Why would the parent ever have the need to take the child to one anyway? What is a mild gay pride parade to you anyway? The parent is responsible for what the child sees. In your scenario, you are trying to blame the participants of a gay pride parade for the actions of a less than bright parent.
I think that I made this quite easy to understand when I asked you these questions.
Whose fault would it be if the parent took the child to a strip club?
Whose fault would it be if the parent took the child to a bar?
Whose fault would it be if the parent took the child to a drug house?
Whose fault would it be if the parent took the child to a adult book store?
So now, whose fault would it be if the parent took the child to a gay pride parade?
It's the parents fault, right?
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we! They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” ~ George W. Bush, 8/5/04
[ edited by yeager on Aug 16, 2004 09:11 PM ]
posted on August 16, 2004 09:18:06 PM
yellow says,
It was just a story you silly twit and then you said; How would you know they are a "homo" couple? Did they tell you they are? Did you see them having sex? I guess I'd better add my answer to these questions to my story. Yes to all. There are you satisfied with that.
It's not about me being satisfied with your posts. It's about you trying to make some sense when you post.
Also, would you ever take a child to a gay pride parade. If no, why not? Would it be because you and the child might see something that might be offensive to the child? If that is your answer, then that is great. You passed a common sense rule of parenting. Some parents don't posses that same common sense.
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we! They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” ~ George W. Bush, 8/5/04
posted on August 16, 2004 09:25:24 PM
Yeager
Your not comprehending what I said either. THERE'S A PLACE FOR EVERYTHING, LEWD AND LASCIVIOUS BEHAVIOR DOES NOT BELONG ON THE STREET.
According to you, this parade will be an eye opener.
YOU JUST NEVER DO KNOW WITH THESE TYPES OF PARADES, DO YOU??
Why would the parent ever have the need to take the child to one anyway?
That's an easy one, the kid likes parades.
What is a mild gay pride parade to you anyway?
Another easy one, a mild homosexual pride parade is one where THEY ALL HAVE THEIR CLOTHES ON OR THEY ARE NOT DRESSED IN A LEWD AND LASCIVIOUS MANNER.
As far as all your other questions goes I would say that what does fault have to do with it. A parent, beleive it or not CAN take their child to all these places, with the possible exception being the drug house without it even being against the law.
Ed to add; and each parent has the right to decide for themselves what their child will see but when at a homosexual pride parade that parent thought would be mild the child is subjected to something deemed offensive by the parent who's fault is it then??
[ edited by yellowstone on Aug 16, 2004 09:28 PM ]
ed to fix ubb
[ edited by yellowstone on Aug 16, 2004 10:32 PM ]
posted on August 16, 2004 09:38:04 PMAlso, would you ever take a child to a gay pride parade. If no, why not?
Because I don't view it as being something to take pride in. I would not want to instill in a child that being homosexual is an acceptable lifstyle. To the contrary, I would want to instill in them that it is an objectional lifestyle but at the oppropriate time, when they could understand it.
posted on August 16, 2004 09:40:23 PM
You are trying to rationalize the poor judgment of a parent. Even if a child likes parades, why would it be necessary to take the child to a gay pride parade, especially when you say there is LEWD AND LASCIVIOUS BEHAVIOR? Again, the fault of the parent for taking the child there.
Why would it be beneficial to take the child to these other places that I mentioned also? Even if you can legally do it, as you say.
Also, how would a child know about a gay pride parade in the first place, without of course the parent telling them about it? Does 8 year old Timmy read the paper looking for these events, or would the parent have first taught them about such things?
I would think that most 8 years olds don't know what the meaning of gay means. With that in mind, they wouldn't know what a gay pride parade is about either. Unless the parent told them about it too.
And as I have stated before, if the parent acquainted the child with the parade, then it's the parent's fault for what the child see.
Just because a child likes a parade, doesn't mean he should be taken to a gay pride parade. If the child likes guns, do you buy him one?
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we! They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” ~ George W. Bush, 8/5/04
posted on August 16, 2004 09:57:43 PM
yellow says,
Also, would you ever take a child to a gay pride parade. If no, why not?
Because I don't view it as being something to take pride in. I would not want to instill in a child that being homosexual is an acceptable lifestyle. To the contrary, I would want to instill in them that it is an objectionable lifestyle but at the appropriate time, when they could understand it.
First of all, people go to parades to see the parade and the participants and what they have to show, demonstrate or take pride in. It's not to agree or disagree with a lifestyle. Also, it's their LIFE and not a lifestyle.
Why is it that you wouldn't take them to a gay pride parade, but other parents may. Could it be that some parents demonstrate better judgment for their children? And while other seem willing to chance their children seeing LEWD AND LASCIVIOUS BEHAVIOR.
I don't know if you have kids, but you can instill in them all you want. Facing reality, they are either gay or not, and there is nothing that you will ever do about it. There is a man name James Mc Greevy that has publicly pointed this out to all of us.
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we! They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” ~ George W. Bush, 8/5/04
posted on August 16, 2004 10:08:29 PM
Yeager
Why do they have homosexual pride parades in the first place?? Do they have them so that only the homosexuals will show up for them, I don't think so. One reason is that they have them so that anyone that is curious about their lifstyle can go and see for themselves. They expect that a certain number of non homosexuals will show up to their parade. Some have never been to one of their parades and don't know what to expect. Some figure what would be the harm in bringing their children along.
Why would it be beneficial to take the child to these other places that I mentioned also?
Benifit has nothing to do with it, it is parental preference. My sister used to take her daughter to bars with her all the time and she turned out to be a hell of a person with no ill effects what-so-ever.
Just because a child likes a parade, doesn't mean he should be taken to a gay pride parade.
Like I stated above some might be curious and some might think what would be the harm in taking their child and still others have never been to one and do not know what to expect. When they post the notification in the newspaper of the parade, they don't say what tone it will take on, so the parent doesn't know.
If the child likes guns, do you buy him one?
Sure why not, my Dad bought me one when I was 8 years old and my Brother bought his 9 year old son one. What's the problem there??
posted on August 16, 2004 10:15:35 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else find that there are an inordinate amount of Homosexual threads and posts on this board?
I am beginning to wonder if this is a board for homosexuals to vent? I am not homophobic or anti-gay.. but I am beginning to feel a little out of my element here.. it just seems that so many threads end up arguing the rights and plights of the homosexuals..'just my opinion..
Oh and before you jump down my throat and call me a bigot or tell me that I don't have to read the threads, or that everyone has a right to post any topic that they please...
I know.. I know.. but it has been said over and over and over again.. what purpose does it serve? Drdo
posted on August 16, 2004 10:16:18 PMFirst of all, people go to parades to see the parade and the participants and what they have to show, demonstrate or take pride in. It's not to agree or disagree with a lifestyle. Also, it's their LIFE and not a lifestyle.
How do you know this, did you go around and take a poll of the parade goers?? How can you possibly know why people go to parades??
Why is it that you wouldn't take them to a gay pride parade, but other parents may
Again, it's a matter of parental preference. Who's not making any sense in their post's now??
posted on August 17, 2004 06:17:44 AM
yellow: Do you mean like how I have noticed your new sig line image and how it shows someone with the crack of their ass showing and he obviously has his penis out of his pants.
It is a take from the "Piss on Ford", "Piss on Chevy" decals that are on back of trucks.
A thong at the beach does not qualify because there is a place for everything.
What a lame excuse. There are decency laws that have to be upheld during the parades. A guy has a right to wear a G-string during a parade just as much as a woman does at the beach. As long as it is street legal what difference does it make.
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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We the people, in order to form a more perfect Union....
.....one Nation indivisible, With Liberty and Justice for ALL.
posted on August 17, 2004 06:20:57 AMLike I said before that I could go Google and find you some images of these parades and I have no doubt that you will see children in the backgrounds in the images while homosexuals parade past wearing their revealing costumes.
Somebody had to have had taken the children there. Did you ever stop to think the children are the children of gay parents? But that is right the conservatives and religious right cry..."What about the children. For God's sake we need to protect the children."
If you find the parades offensive then don't go. Don't tell other parents what is or is not offensive for their children to see.
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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We the people, in order to form a more perfect Union....
.....one Nation indivisible, With Liberty and Justice for ALL.
posted on August 17, 2004 06:29:08 AMWell you see this is how it happens. A straight couple moves in to an apartment in a nice neighhborhood where all the other people that live there are also straight. Then all of a sudden a couple of years later a homo couple moves in to the vacant apartment next door. While drinking coffee with his straight friend that lives a few doors down they discuss the situation and they both notice that there are homos moving in all over the place. They both look at each other and I swear at the same time they both say; Well there goes the neighborhood, time to move
Actually here in Chicago it is the reverse. Gay people have moved into run down neighborhoods and renovated them over the years before being forced out.
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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We the people, in order to form a more perfect Union....
.....one Nation indivisible, With Liberty and Justice for ALL.
posted on August 17, 2004 06:36:23 AMTHERE'S A PLACE FOR EVERYTHING, LEWD AND LASCIVIOUS BEHAVIOR DOES NOT BELONG ON THE STREET.
What you may think is lewd and lascivious may not be obscene to someone else. I guess if the Sweedish bikini ski team had a parade wearing thongs and pasties, you would have no problem with it.
Why do they have homosexual pride parades in the first place?? Do they have them so that only the homosexuals will show up for them, I don't think so. One reason is that they have them so that anyone that is curious about their lifstyle can go and see for themselves. They expect that a certain number of non homosexuals will show up to their parade. Some have never been to one of their parades and don't know what to expect. Some figure what would be the harm in bringing their children along.
This was already explained. Why do the KKK have parades? There might be people curious about the KKK.
Bottom line is people who want to attend the gay pride parade will go - same may be gay, some may be curious as to what goes on, other may go to protest.
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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We the people, in order to form a more perfect Union....
.....one Nation indivisible, With Liberty and Justice for ALL.
posted on August 17, 2004 07:11:03 AM
Yes Twelve.. I guess I did just jump right in, what did you want me to do, sneak in the back door or just scratch at the front door whining and waiting for someone let me in.
And Yes.. I did notice that there are two sides to the Homosexual postings.. I also noticed that the regulars on these threads are Logan, Yeager, Yellow and Twelve.. and it is a never ending story.. Two for and two against.. I think Logan knows who shows the most interest.. LOL
Of course this is an open board, I just stated my opinion.. and wondered if anyone else noticed how so many threads end up discussing homosexuality..
I am not particularly interested in the subject of anyones sexuality, as I have stated.. I enjoy everyone's input on the RT... I just don't need to know what your sexual preferences are. Hell, I'd rather know what kind of coffee you prefer..LOL
It's just not important to me.
Prevent Bigotry through Education.
