posted on September 24, 2004 09:01:01 AM new
I enjoyed reading Ayad Allawi's reaction to kerrys naysaying speech [kerry's commented immediately following his speech to our Congress about the war] on Iraq. He implied that it [kerry's reaction] helps the terrorists they're fighting...AND since kerry had never set foot in Iraq to see for himself how things are going....well...he and the US media weren't presenting things as they are...what they've accomplished - etc.
posted on September 24, 2004 09:23:24 AM new
I so enjoyed shutting linda up with:
Linda_K
posted on September 23, 2004 09:33:57 PM
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yellowstone - I looked it up....you're so right.
And yes, I stand corrected. I don't believe there's a liberal here...nor a illiberal who would be willing to defend this country. They'd either run to Canada....which a Canadian here has said how welcome our deserters were....or they'd surrender to our enemies...or they'd be like Spain and to exactly what the terrorists want our of pure fear.
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But I know there are democrats who are fighting in this war....and there were many democratic elected Senators and from the House who supported and voted for this war....so I want to be clear that not all dems think like the liberals here do. Thank heaven for small favors.
crowfarm
posted on September 24, 2004 05:23:01 AM edit
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Did bush fight the communists in Vietnam?
Did DICK(5 Defferrment)cheney put HIS life on the line for America?
posted on September 24, 2004 10:31:12 AM newThey'd either run to Canada....which a Canadian here has said how welcome our deserters were....or they'd surrender to our enemies...or they'd be like Spain and to exactly what the terrorists want our of pure fear.
You don't have to go to Canada to desert if you're George Bush. Just use your influence to get into an over staffed national guard unit, then go to Alabama and then Yale. Come and go as you please during a time of war if you're a Bush.
WHY HAVEN'T BUSH'S DAUGHTERS ENLISTED TO GO FIGHT IN IRAQ ????
posted on September 25, 2004 11:32:28 AM newOffering a simple, "Thank you America," Iraqi interim prime minister Ayad Allawi declared Thursday that his country is moving successfully past the war that ousted Saddam Hussein and vowed that elections will take place next year as scheduled.
I agree readmond, why should we believe the Iraqi Prime Minister. After all he is just a puppet for the US right now. I can't wait to see how the Iraqi elections turn out. Then need peace in every single region of Iraq in order to have a fair election so that everyone can vote. I doubt that will happen.
DICK CHENEY SUPPORTS MY RELATIONSHIP: People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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posted on September 25, 2004 11:37:27 AM newThen need peace in every single region of Iraq in order to have a fair election so that everyone can vote. I doubt that will happen.
posted on September 25, 2004 11:53:53 AM new
Maybe reamond could enlighten you about how the voting went about here in the US during the Civil War elections.
Not all states voted.
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Allawi KO's Kerry
Doug Giles (back to web version) | Send
September 25, 2004
It must have been tough for Kerry ***to watch his Democratic buddies give Iraq's Prime Minister Allawi standing ovations*** as he spoke to a joint session of Congress, Wednesday. Think of the anguish JFK, too, must have gone through seeing his liberal colleagues indirectly congratulate George Bush.
Reporters covering the Kerry campaign may have heard the Senator's ulcers growl, each time his Congressional colleagues gave the Iraqi PM an overwhelming ovation. Watching the guys supposedly standing behind him in the campaign, vociferously applaud the noble Iraqi leader and ally of Bush and the rest of America, must have been galling.
Maybe it's payback for taking off his uniform and standing with the enemy against every American who fought in Vietnam during his meretricious mendacity before the Fulbright Committee, on national TV and on two Paris trips to meet with the North Vietnamese enemy.
It was awesome to hear Allawi--who Saddam tried to assassinate, who is actually there in Baghdad risking his life 24/7--as he gave Bush, America and the Coalition troops kudos for shredding Saddam and now getting rid of the ragweed extremists who want to keep Iraq enslaved. Thank you, Prime Minister, for thanking us and giving us an eye-witnessed, favorable report. We sure aren't getting either gratitude or an unbiased picture from CBS, NBC or ABC.
These three nutworks, TV's Axis of Drivel, run negative reports on Abu Ghraib prison cruelty, on American soldiers' death tolls, on terrorist beheadings of relief workers and on the insurgents in just three of Iraq's 18 provinces. Then, they'll do an interview with a Muslim mendicant breathing murderous threats, and never cover the massive forward strides to freedom and democratic government in this once tyrannized nation.
Think about it, skeptics: Iraq will have free elections for the first time in its history. For more than 80 years there was been no such thing as a free vote. Sitting at Starbuck's drinking our skinny no foam mocha latte, sweetened only with three shots of Splenda, it is hard to comprehend not having free elections, much less the brutal slavery in which 28 million Iraqis have lived.
For nearly 30 years Saddam was the only person on the ballot … and you voted, if you valued your life. The last time he "ran" for President, a couple of years ago, Saddam received 99.6% of the vote. Believe it or not, it was much worse than Palm Beach, Broward and Miami-Dade counties combined.
During his reign of terror if you spoke out against Saddam, you could count on being sodomized, having your tongue cut off or watching your teenaged daughter gang raped by Udai and Qusai … or perhaps a combination of the above. Now, that's not a problem, with Saddam festering in jail and his boys roasting in hell.
It was refreshing to get Allawi's take on the insurgencies in Iraq. He views the terrorists' flurry of activity not as a sign of strength, but of desperation. They are upping their attacks in a few provinces to derail the coming elections in the US and later in Iraq … kind of like John Kerry trying anything and everything as he tries to salvage his shipwrecked campaign.
That is why we should solidly step up our military attacks -- not back down an inch -- and stomp the bathetic Ba'athist bong resin and the imported Iranian irregulars into snail slime, so freedom can truly ring in the long-oppressed, messed-up Middle East.
We must show the rag headed rabble we won't be intimidated and that we are willing to pay the cost and go the distance, because freedom for Iraq shows long suffering citizens in other terror-tantalizing lands they can break out of the devastating, dictatorial, declining state of their societies.
We need to demonstrate to the terrorists – and to the backsliders in France and Germany -- that we believe in fighting and dying for a noble cause like liberty. Watching a grateful Allawi cheered on by the entire membership of our Congress warmed my belly and made me proud to be an American.
Not so for the DNC's presidential wannabe. With tight-pursed lips, mock civility and a clenched jaw, Kerry relieved himself like a drunken alley cat on everything Allawi said. At Carville's command, Kerry would have us believe the Iraqi patriot is a Bush administration puppet, going so far as to imply that Allawi was lying, deceiving the world about the true state of Iraq. For Kerry to accuse Allawi of lying is similar to Michael Jackson calling William Buckley freaky.
My ClashPoint is this: call me naïf, but I believe Allawi's report that Iraq is better off, and I believe the world is better off with the offing of Saddam and company. Even though this war has taken somewhat longer than most microwave Americans and Europeans would like, Allawi reports the overwhelming majority of Iraqis are very grateful for the Coalition's military intervention and liberation.
This is not taking too long, morons…. It's a war, Spanky, and wars are not a fluff and fold situation. Establishing democracy despite extremist Muslim lunacy is not accomplished in a week and, yes, we'll have to pay retail to see it established.
But some things are worth paying full price for … establishing a free and just society in a nation surrounded by fellows of a bizarre and baser sort is not something we can buy at Costco. If we can set a beacon for democracy beaming in Baghdad, it will have a huge and positive impact on every country in the region, and materially diminish the attraction of terrorism to currently hopeless millions.
[con't today on Townhall.com]
"Those who doubted whether Iraq or the world would be better off without Saddam Hussein, and those who believe today that we are not safer with his capture, don´t have the judgment to be president or the credibility to be elected president." - john kerry
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"These dizzying contradictions -- so glaring, so public, so frequent -- have gone beyond undermining anything Kerry can now say on Iraq. They have been transmuted into a character issue."
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"What kind of man, aspiring to the presidency, does not know his own mind about the most serious issue of our time?" - Charles Krauthammer
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posted on September 25, 2004 01:57:48 PM new
Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage told Congress the elections must be held throughout the country, including areas gripped by violence. That contradicted Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, who said Thursday and again Friday that if insurgents prevent Iraqis from voting in some areas, a partial vote would be better than none at all.
Asked about Rumsfeld's comment, Armitage told a House Appropriations panel, "We're going to have an election that is free and open, and that has to be open to all citizens."
Asked after the hearing if partial elections were being considered, he said: "No. Not now. Not that I know of."
"It's got to be our best effort to get it into troubled areas as well," Armitage said. " ... I wouldn't want to leave California out of an election in the United States, or Wisconsin, or anybody."
Linda, believe what you want. Major combat supposedly ended over a year ago. Heavy fighting has been going on in three major area since the war started and has been increasing over the past 3 months.
Frankly I do not care what happened over 100 years ago in the US. We are talking about Iraq now, please stay on the subject.
DICK CHENEY SUPPORTS MY RELATIONSHIP: People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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[ edited by logansdad on Sep 25, 2004 02:05 PM ]
posted on September 25, 2004 04:46:27 PM newPlease stay on subject
Now that's really funny coming from YOU. The one who brings up gays and gay marriage into so many threads that have nothing AT ALL to do with those subjects. What a laugh........
I pointed out our civil war because I've read many using that as the arguement that it would be better to have the voting take place ON TIME....especially since that's why the violence in Iraq has increased - because they're working to keep just that, from happening. And they used our Civil War as an example that when it was not possible for all the states to vote....they still held the election anyway. Just wait and see...if they can't get into certain areas....they're not willing to let it drag on...the election there is a high priority....no matter what you say.
posted on September 25, 2004 04:52:33 PM new
So now you accuse me of bringing up a gay subject in every thread. That one takes the cake. You need another drink Linda or is your drug of choice weed?
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Just wait and see...if they can't get into certain areas....they're not willing to let it drag on...the election there is a high priority....no matter what you say.
Why is that what your son told you will happen? I finally figured out your news source... LOL LOL
What good is an election if ALL the people that want to vote can't vote. So you are in favor of just having another sham government in Iraq then.
DICK CHENEY SUPPORTS MY RELATIONSHIP: People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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posted on September 25, 2004 06:54:40 PM new
Always good to see someone laughing.
Now go back and read what I actually said vs what you THINK I said.
But don't stop laughing....you are funny, especially when you don't have a clue about MOST of what you are saying.
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Iraqi Leader Vows Election Won't Be Delayed
Rumsfeld Talks Of Partial Vote if Violence Persists
By Robin Wright and Mike Allen
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, September 24, 2004; Page A01
President Bush and Iraq's interim prime minister, Ayad Allawi, pledged yesterday that Iraq's elections would take place in January despite escalating violence, as U.S. officials began to suggest the first democratic poll might not take place in all parts of the country.
With the elections now seen as the barometer of Iraq's transition to democracy, the United States and Iraq appear to have decided that an imperfect poll would be better than delaying it because of an insurgency that has claimed control of key cities and provincial capitals in the Sunni Triangle north of Baghdad.
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posted on September 25, 2004 07:40:48 PM new
Linda if you look at what my link said, you will see that Secretary of State Armitage believes the entire country must vote if the elections are to mean something. Not every one on Bush's cabinet agrees with Bush. But I bet you find that difficult to believe.
If you don't think that is important then perhaps we should only have 2/3 of the country decide who gets elected President. Now how fair will that be. I bet you would be the first to complain if there are terrorist attacks on election day or a few days before which causes a low voter turnout.
Or how about people in Florida not being able to vote because of all the hurricanes. How fair do you think that?
What is Bush going to do, change the day of the election to avoid uprising just like he changed the day when "power" was handed over to the Iraqis? I wouldn't be surprised if he did.
DICK CHENEY SUPPORTS MY RELATIONSHIP: People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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posted on September 25, 2004 10:11:13 PM new
I so enjoyed shutting linda up with:
Linda_K
posted on September 23, 2004 09:33:57 PM
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yellowstone - I looked it up....you're so right.
And yes, I stand corrected. I don't believe there's a liberal here...nor a illiberal who would be willing to defend this country. They'd either run to Canada....which a Canadian here has said how welcome our deserters were....or they'd surrender to our enemies...or they'd be like Spain and to exactly what the terrorists want our of pure fear.
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But I know there are democrats who are fighting in this war....and there were many democratic elected Senators and from the House who supported and voted for this war....so I want to be clear that not all dems think like the liberals here do. Thank heaven for small favors.
crowfarm
posted on September 24, 2004 05:23:01 AM edit
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Did bush fight the communists in Vietnam?
Did DICK(5 Defferrment)cheney put HIS life on the line for America?
Did linda?
Oh, that's right only Democrats chickened out.
OK, she didn't shut up but never addressed this again. Why not Linda?
posted on September 26, 2004 11:47:15 AM new
linda says,"And yes, I stand corrected. I don't believe there's a liberal here...nor a illiberal who would be willing to defend this country. They'd either run to Canada....which a Canadian here has said how welcome our deserters were....or they'd surrender to our enemies...or they'd be like Spain and to exactly what the terrorists want our of pure fear.
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But I know there are democrats who are fighting in this war....and there were many democratic elected Senators and from the House who supported and voted for this war....so I want to be clear that not all dems think like the liberals here do. Thank heaven for small favors. "
crowfarm
posted on September 24, 2004 05:23:01 AM edit
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Did bush fight the communists in Vietnam?
Did DICK(5 Defferrment)cheney put HIS life on the line for America?
Did linda?
Oh, that's right only Democrats chickened out.
OK, she didn't shut up but never addressed this again. Why not Linda?
posted on September 26, 2004 06:11:20 PM new
linda,I'll be up late tonight so if you care to reply to to my previous post I'll be waiting......of course, when you've been proven wrong you never have the guts to address the issue so I won't hold my breath.
Oh, and don't try that "cf is a liar" routine.....another thread addresses YOUR lying.
And maybe you could answer as linda instead of twelve.
posted on September 27, 2004 07:12:04 AM new
linda as long as you're back(at about the same time twelve put a few gurgles in) maybe you can address the issue ......
posted on September 26, 2004 11:47:15 AM edit
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linda says,"And yes, I stand corrected. I don't believe there's a liberal here...nor a illiberal who would be willing to defend this country. They'd either run to Canada....which a Canadian here has said how welcome our deserters were....or they'd surrender to our enemies...or they'd be like Spain and to exactly what the terrorists want our of pure fear.
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But I know there are democrats who are fighting in this war....and there were many democratic elected Senators and from the House who supported and voted for this war....so I want to be clear that not all dems think like the liberals here do. Thank heaven for small favors. "
crowfarm
posted on September 24, 2004 05:23:01 AM edit
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Did bush fight the communists in Vietnam?
Did DICK(5 Defferrment)cheney put HIS life on the line for America?
Did linda?
Oh, that's right only Democrats chickened out.
OK, she didn't shut up but never addressed this again. Why not Linda?
posted on September 27, 2004 07:17:58 AM new
Oh goodie - the liar crowfarm continues with her sick harassment. Running from thread to thread reposting her copying and pasting.....seeking the attention she's so desperate for. How sad.
posted on September 27, 2004 07:22:13 AM new
No, it was sad how stupid you looked when you said Democrats and liberals wouldn't fight for their country but you kinda forgot bush, cheney, rove and so many other Republicans were too yellow to go to Vietnam and fight.
Whenever a point like that is made YOU disappear.
From your recent posts I see you are not only a liar but a coward.
LOL