posted on July 22, 2000 11:18:20 PM new
I remember the name "pinkhammer" (pinkhamr) and "ILUVGARF" as being very prominent during that time frame. Also, "The cut and paste Queen". You can find the threads by searching on those names.
posted on July 22, 2000 11:22:09 PM new
Blanche! Yes! I haven't heard the name ILUVGARF in ages, nor Pinkhammer. It's all coming back now ... Like I said, I don't think I have the energy to go back to those threads, though.
posted on July 22, 2000 11:28:24 PM new
I think that last one's a keeper, Blanche. I'm a Virgo and not satisfied till I get exactly what I want to say exactly the way I want to say it. So if there's superfluous stuff, I'll go back and edit, but then sometimes I edit too much and it looks too spartan to me, so I try again. I should really do it before I even post the darn thing in the first place, but hell, it's after 2am on a Saturday night, LOL.
posted on July 22, 2000 11:33:46 PM new
I'm a Virgo as well which probably explains a lot!! I liked the first one the best.
I did go back and read a few of those old threads and was amazed at how many of the posters are still around on AW. I think we've both been here too long.
posted on July 22, 2000 11:36:11 PM new
Yes, we Virgo's can pick those nits! Of course, in reality, no self repecting Virgo would have any actual nits, so we transpose the need to pick them into other aspects of our lives.
So what's all this about the Posse? I'm new to these parts, reckon they got dry gulched?
I almost never go back and look at threads older than a week. I'm almost superstitious about it. I think they're too much a reminder of reminder of how much time has slipped by, and how much time I've squandered on these boards. Sort of like if a cop had to look back at all the donuts he's eaten.
posted on July 22, 2000 11:52:10 PM new
yorequest,
The "Posse" was a group of strongly opinionated people who had legitimate beefs with eBay and who voiced those grievances loud and clear. I think (and I stress think here because I'm not entirely sure; this is why I edited my first post, because it occurred to me that I was commenting on something that I wasn't 100% positive about) they were actually temporarily suspended en masse by eBay for no reason other than they weren't afraid to speak up and argue for what they believed was their due (and if I've misstated this, someone please correct me). They used the forums at AW for discussing their suspensions, and some of those threads went at least twenty pages long.
They really never returned? Time and again I read the words of people who say "That's it, I'm leaving eBay!" but I figure give them a week or two and they'll go right back to it because it's the biggest (and for awhile, the only) game in town. I got to admit, I've done this with regard to certain things in my life (non-eBay) -- gone back after I told myself I wouldn't, and it's never made me feel too good.
I have to admire the resolve of someone who says "I'm out" and sticks to it.
posted on July 23, 2000 12:02:12 AM new
Thanks, Spazmodeus, for the clarification. I take it then that we can continue to complain here without fear of reprisal?
Snort of derision here. I fear no stinkin' reprisals! I was nearly born yesterday on Ebay and have yet to see what all the whohah is about concerning earnings. I'm begining to think I've found a great bargain buying venue.
[ edited by yorequest on Jul 23, 2000 12:53 AM ]
posted on July 23, 2000 12:12:18 AM new
yorequest,
I'm even more vague on what the actual grievances were. But be assured, eBay has given people sufficient reason over the years. Not so much lately, but as they were expanding and adding new features they often rode roughshod over the very people who were making their company successful -- the sellers (this predated even the IPO).
As for the good buys you're finding, I think you might be profiting from what we sellers call the "summer slump." I think there's a thread or two about that in the eBay Outlook.
posted on July 23, 2000 12:21:43 AM new
yorequest,
I think the Moderator WOMDed two of your triple post. WOMD is a term you'll see around. It means "Weapons of Mass Destruction" -- sort of like they nuked what was there.
posted on July 23, 2000 12:22:22 AM new
Typical Big Business, for all that 'Community' speak, I would imagine. Sort of like the quote about, "The more he protested his honesty, the faster I counted my spoons." Can't remember who said it. I gave Ebay a response to their new Category page look survey; told them it gave too much presence to the Antique Mall ad. How many new viewers will tune into the page, spot the Mall link and go there never to return? Using a Search will access the entire site, I know, but how many new people know how to or want to use it?
Why should they care, I guess. Millions more new folks next week.
posted on July 23, 2000 12:32:41 AM new
Well, Spaz, when you said 'posse' I thought you were talking about the group of people who were hunting down the sellers who were suspected of shill bidding. Like Cyberyenta....that's when I first remember coming to AW.
But then...... there was some other uproar on ebay Q & A Board and there was a 'town meeting' called and took place here....think that's when I first started reading AW.
posted on July 23, 2000 12:36:04 AM new
yorequest,
Personally, I think eBay should care. Even if there are a million more new people next week, I always believed it was repeat customers who formed the backbone of any business. And if eBay keeps pulling stunts like those banner ads you mentioned, odds are they'll lose some of their established business, and seems to me even less likely that they'll be able to hold on to as many of the newcomers as they might have previously.
I see references to Cyberyenta on the various boards from time to time (mostly Ross's, I think), but I have no idea of who she is/was or what associations her name has. It was before my time.
I recall a town meeting here ... but I thought it was just for input about what we expected/wanted from AW, not connected to eBay. Was there another town meeting prior to that one?
posted on July 23, 2000 12:47:12 AM new
Spazmodeus: Yes, especially if they jump in to try their hand in the middle of a "Summer Slump" and then lose their shirts. Or widgets, or whatever it is they want to market.
I actually did some research and asked a lot of questions ect., ect. before even beginning. So I kinda know some of the score. Enough to hum along and not look like tooo big an idiot (fingers crossed here). But many people haven't done research since high school, when they stopped being graded and they'll lose interest when their shirts are gone. Then, hopefully, the old guard will still be around to help pay the light bill. World or no world, sellers (good ones, anyway) are a finite resource to be treasured IMHO.
Thanks Michelle, didn't want people to think I was being needlessly verbose! (who, me?)
[ edited by yorequest on Jul 23, 2000 12:51 AM ]
posted on July 23, 2000 12:47:48 AM new
Did any of you get an email today from Ebay asking if you had bought something from a certain seller and if you had, to fill out a form and email it to a Detective?
First time that has happened to me and I'm kind of wondering if it is real.
posted on July 23, 2000 01:03:31 AM new
The plot thickens. But I gotta get in bed. Will be interesting to read more about this tomorrow. Sweet Dreams, All. zzzzzzzzzz
posted on July 23, 2000 01:05:00 AM new
Spaz - She was my hero as a newbie to ebay. Always helpful, and seemed a very pleasant woman from her posts and very much wanted to keep ebay a 'safe trading place'.
I had never heard of shilling and she was one, who if someone/anyone suspected it was going on in an auction, would help them tie the shilling rings to names, and get them suspended. People would turn to her as she knew best how to prove they were shilling.
Many didn't agree she should be a cybercop, and ebay put her through some real tough times. I believe they suspended her for pulling too many users personal information to verify address. At that time, street numbers & street address were listed, not just city and state.
Yes, there were two other town meetings that I am aware of, before the one you speak of here. That was just about things here (AW). The two before that were when major uproars were going on with ebay users, and ebay 'forbid' the posters on the Q & A Boards to talk about these issues, the ones who did were suspended. (God, I wish my memory wasn't so bad.) But, anyway the meetings were held here on AW so anyone could say what they pleased and not be suspended from ebay for doing so on their boards.
posted on July 23, 2000 12:15:29 PM new
First there was cyberyenta and the Q&A & shill busters, then there was the Posse and the DNF Board refugees and then there was the
infamous "wolfpack" which turned out to be not a pack at all... Gosh, seems like ancient history. I visited my "original" ebay board yesterday and that song kept playing in my head (This Used To Be My Playgroud) ... I didn't recognize the new names and scrolled down and on the very bottom were 2 folks I remembered as regulars ... made me smile.
I feel blessed that I met a few wonderful folks on that board and I will always stay in touch with them and be an email away. I KNOW they are an email away too... and that makes me smile
Guess I'm smiling a lot lately
[ edited by nobs on Jul 23, 2000 12:16 PM ]
