posted on October 1, 2004 07:56:50 AM
linda, I can see you were googling yourself into a frenzy to find a cut and paste that can even come close to your warped viewpoint.
You put it on so fast....a little editing would've made it easier to read,,,you're in a frenzy!
However, this just highlights the fact that, on your own, you can only comment on dress color.
You haven't the mental resources to discuss the debate on your own.
linda, we are all aware that you can search the internet and find ANY viewpoint.
Kerry won the debate.....try to show a smidgeon of class and be quiet.
posted on October 1, 2004 08:16:06 AMkerry continues to waffle on his positions....the $87 B is but one of them.
What waffle?? I thought he was very clear and precise on what he wants to do. All anyone has to do is listen.
I listen to both sides and then make up my own mind.
posted on October 1, 2004 08:29:13 AM
I knew Kerry would do well but he was outstanding. He spoke with strength and conviction and was very confident. Bush on the other hand did much worse than I expected (not that it was a bad thing). You could see him almost squirm and he kept reaching for a drink (years of habit) and he blinked his eyes very fast, squinted them and stretched his mouth into a tight thin lip line constantly. He looked totally impotent against Kerry and he kept saying the same things over and over. His handlers must be really feeling bad.
I thought I heard him say this when asked if the war was worth the cost of lives but wasn't sure so checked the transcript. He was talking about the lady who lost her husband in Iraq.
You know, it's hard work to try to love her as best as I can, knowing full well that the decision I made caused her loved one to be in harm's way.
Don't you think he meant it was difficult for him to console her....... not hard work to try to love her as best as I can ?
A dozen smilies from Linda_k........ lol, she is stoked to the max.
posted on October 1, 2004 08:33:30 AM
Well these 'waffles' he's made that while they may not be of importance to SOME here...they are VERY important to all the families who have troops that kerry voted to send to war but wouldn't support them.
See...to many people you can say one thing...and then do another. kerry says he supports our troops but then doesn't vote for their needs. The old saying "Actions speaks much louder than words" certainly applies to kerrys words vs his actions.
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Thursday, September 30, 2004
Breaking Debate Fact:
Voted Against the $87 Billion
Kerry's False Statement:
In response to question #4 John Kerry said, "My message to the troops is also thank you for what they're doing but it's also help is on the way. I believe those troops deserve better than what they are getting today." (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)
[b]The Real Record[/]:
FACT: $87 Billion Supplemental Kerry Voted Against Provided:
Supplemental Funding Bill Kerry And Edwards Voted Against Provided "Extra Money For Body Armor For Soldiers …" ("Highlights Of Iraq, Afghanistan Measures," The Associated Press, 10/17/03; S. Rept. 108-160, Conference Report On S. 1689, 10/2/03)
Supplemental Funding Bill Kerry And Edwards Voted Against Provided Increased Combat Pay For Troops. ("Highlights Of Iraq, Afghanistan Measures," The Associated Press, 10/17/03; S. Rept. 108-160, Conference Report On S. 1689, 10/2/03; "FY 2004
Supplemental Request For Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF), Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF), And Operation Noble Eagle (ONE)," U.S. Department Of Defense, 9/03)
Supplemental Funding Bill Kerry And Edwards Voted Against Provided Health Benefits For Reservists And Guardsmen Called To Active Duty, As Well As Support For Their Families. ("Highlights Of Iraq, Afghanistan Measures," The Associated Press, 10/17/03; S. Rept. 108-160, Conference Report On S. 1689, 10/2/03; "FY 2004 Supplemental Request For Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF), Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF), And Operation Noble Eagle (ONE)," U.S. Department Of Defense, 9/03)
Bill Also Provided Eligibility For TRICARE Health Benefits To Reservists, Guardsmen And Their Dependents If They Are Activated For Duty, Unemployed, Or Their Employer Does Not Provide Health Care Benefits. (S. 1689, CQ Vote #400: Passed 87-12: R 50-0; D 37-11; I 0-1, 10/17/03, Kerry Voted Nay; See Text Of H.R. 3289, Engrossed Amendment As Agreed To By Senate)
FACT: Kerry Has Already Taken Eight Positions On The $87 Billion
Kerry Said It Would Be "Irresponsible" To Vote Against Funding Troops. Doyle McManus (LA Times): "If that amendment does not pass, will you then vote against the $87 billion?" Kerry: "I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon our troops and recklessly leave Iraq to â€" to whatever follows as a result of simply cutting and running. That's irresponsible." (CBS' "Face the Nation," 9/14/03)
Kerry Claims "I Actually Did Vote For The $87 Billion Before I Voted Against It." (Sen. John Kerry, Speech In Huntington, WV, 3/16/04)
Kerry Later Said He Was "Proud" That He And Edwards Voted Against $87 Billion In Funding For U.S. Soldiers. "Here is the value that John Edwards and I will put in place. I'm proud to say that John joined me in voting against that $87 billion when we knew the policy had to be changed." (John Kerry, Remarks at "Women's Voices: A Luncheon with John Kerry," Boston, MA, 7/12/04)
Kerry Then Said His Vote Against Body Armor And Supplies For Troops Was "Complicated." (MSNBC's "Imus in the Morning," 7/15/04)
Kerry Even Said His Vote For The War And Against Funding For Our Troops Was "Not A Flip-Flop."(CBS' "Evening News," 7/21/04)
Kerry Then Defended His Vote Against The $87 Billion By Saying President Bush "Didn't Have A Plan To Win The Peace, It Was Irresponsible To Give [President Bush] A Blank Check That Gave $20 Billion That Was Going To Go…To Halliburton And All These Other Companies." (Mike Allen And Lois Romano, "Closing Laps In Race To November," The Washington Post, 9/4/04)
Kerry Said He's "Glad" He Voted Against The Iraq Supplemental. KERRY: "Because I saw what was happening. I voted against it -- absolutely voted against it. I'm glad I voted against it. Because we now see that that $20 billion hasn't even been spent effectively. Most of it's going to Halliburton in fraud and no-bid contracts which is completely inappropriate. I'd fire Halliburton tomorrow." (CBS' "The Late Show With David Letterman," 9/20/04)
Kerry Said His Vote Against The Iraq Supplemental "Was A Protest. Sometimes You Have To Stand Up And Be Counted." KERRY: "But it reflects the truth of the position, which is I fought to have the wealthiest people in America share the burden of paying for that war. It was a protest. Sometimes you have to stand up and be counted, and that's what I did." (ABC's "Good Morning America," 9/29/04)
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So yeah, kerry's given MANY excuses - waffled - on why he voted against funding our troops...TROOPS HE SENT TO WAR
posted on October 1, 2004 08:53:33 AM
Linda, glad to see you took my advice and held back on your smiley faces....helps to make you look like you actually have something to say.
However, now you should really start READING:
""Kerry Said He's "Glad" He Voted Against The Iraq Supplemental. KERRY: "Because I saw what was happening. I voted against it -- absolutely voted against it. I'm glad I voted against it.
""""""""Because we now see that that $20 billion hasn't even been spent effectively. Most of it's going to Halliburton in fraud and no-bid contracts which is completely inappropriate. I'd fire Halliburton tomorrow." """"""
(CBS' "The Late Show With David Letterman," 9/20/04)
Here's the one that would get my vote if I was undecided:
Kerry Said His Vote Against The Iraq Supplemental "Was A Protest. Sometimes You Have To Stand Up And Be Counted." KERRY: "But it reflects the truth of the position,
""""""which is I fought to have the wealthiest people in America share the burden of paying for that war. It was a protest. Sometimes you have to stand up and be counted, and that's what I did."""""""
(ABC's "Good Morning America
One reason bush has followers is because some people are too lazy mentally to seek knowledge deeper than a bumper sticker.
YOU, linda, are blaming Kerry for problems in a war that BUSH needlessly started....try logic, linda, just for once!
posted on October 1, 2004 08:56:00 AM
And, once again, linda, you have proven you are totally incapable of original thought....
On your own you can only attack tans and dress color.....to actually SAY anything, no matter how skewed, you need a C&P......doesn't make you look too bright.
posted on October 1, 2004 09:16:26 AM
As usual, logansdad, you're wrong once again.
As for the success of Kerry's anti-democracy protests and his leadership of the VVAW and association with Fonda's Winter Soldier Investigation, General Vo Nguyen Giap, Vietnam's most decorated military leader, wrote in retrospect that if not for the disunity created by such stateside protesters, Hanoi would have ultimately surrendered.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, which states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath ... to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington
posted on October 1, 2004 09:34:53 AM
Linda_k, why not attribute that heavy sig line you drag along to the site where you copied it from or is there a reason why you don't?
posted on October 1, 2004 09:37:11 AM"As for the success of Kerry's anti-democracy protests and his leadership of the VVAW and association with Fonda's Winter Soldier Investigation, General Vo Nguyen Giap, Vietnam's most decorated military leader, wrote in retrospect that if not for the disunity created by such stateside protesters, Hanoi would have ultimately surrendered."
How amazing, linda that you would have so much confidence in the words of a Communist!
Remember that Nixon, like Lyndon B. Johnson before him, had been gradually convinced that a victory in Vietnam was unobtainable.
posted on October 1, 2004 09:43:17 AM
And anyone with one ounce of knowledge about how you have to operate in Congress can find no fault with any of Kerry's record, none of it is waffling.
It is also a joke that the right tries to make something of Kerry voting to give war authority BUT IS AGAINST Bush misusing that authority.
BUSH IS LIKE A KID WHO WRECKS DAD'S CAR AND THEN YELLS -- "BUT YOU SAID I COULD DRIVE IT" !!!!
Bush takes no responsiblility for his horrific blunders. When asked, he can't even remember one. And isn't it a deplorable fact that his supporters hold him responsible for nothing!?
posted on October 1, 2004 09:52:56 AM
Yes, helen, just like you and others here are doing now....giving aid and comfort to our enemies. Giving them hope they can also defeat us, just like the communists did during VN...and all aided and abetted by those wonderful war protesters you support so much.
We're at war...you need to decide whose side your on. I have already decide that question about you for myself. And it's NOT our side.
As for the success of Kerry's anti-democracy protests and his leadership of the VVAW and association with Fonda's Winter Soldier Investigation, General Vo Nguyen Giap, Vietnam's most decorated military leader, wrote in retrospect that if not for the disunity created by such stateside protesters, Hanoi would have ultimately surrendered.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, which states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath ... to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington
posted on October 1, 2004 10:06:33 AM
If bush did so bad last night just wait till the debate about the economy lol. I am watching it on C-span now.....
posted on October 1, 2004 10:08:13 AMWe're at war...you need to decide whose side your on. I have already decide that question about you for myself. And it's NOT our side.
Oh Yeah, a "true patriot" "on our side" should keep his mouth shut when a president goes down the wrong path and is getting brave soldiers killed due to his stupid policies.
posted on October 1, 2004 11:14:08 AM
Okay everybody, calm down a little and remember what month it is!! October... and just now on Fox.. there was a report of a new tape from Bin Ladin.... so what could this mean? Remember this is October, what will the October Surprise be? Don't trust those Repugs.. they may feel a little scare tactic is in order or who knows they may pull obl out of a hat.... Maggie
posted on October 1, 2004 11:20:07 AM
LOL - There goes kiara again...being so petty and bored that now she's stating FALSE information about my tag lines. And I'm the one who spends too much time posting?
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No logansdad - You go find an article that's not from last year, like the one you posted is, and get the information for yourself....just like a growup would do. I'm tired of searching for you...you post too many incorrect statements...and I have better things to do with my time than re-educated you to the truth.
posted on October 1, 2004 11:21:26 AM
Oh, Maggie, I haven't forgotten!
The sleazebag Republicans will stop at nothing to win.
Already Florida is screwing over voters by telling 40,000 of them that their registration forms are incomplete!
Maybe they forgot to check the box where it says to register you have to swear to vote for bush!
I predict the October Surprise will be a Republican paid-for-under-the-table "terrorist" attack.
YES, they would kill Americans to win....I have NO doubt!
Or,
SURPRISE, we JUST now captured Osama bin Forgotten!
posted on October 1, 2004 11:29:52 AMOh Yeah, a "true patriot" "on our side" should keep his mouth shut when a president goes down the wrong path and is getting brave soldiers killed due to his stupid policies.
Well..let's see. Kerry has repeatedly been unable to tell us what he'd do. First our troops will stay there...then he'll have them home in four years, then one year, then six months, then back to four years...then last night...he'll have to wait until he can discuss the issues in Iraq with the commanders on the ground.
So...being that kerry doesn't know what he'll actually do in Iraq....and neither does anyone else at this point....I'd be since he DOESN'T have the same information President Bush DOES HAVE....that's what makes the difference....the lefties have no CLUE as to what's going on....whether it's the right or wrong path...right or wrong policies. But THIS President is not going to give up the war or the terrorists. And they're in Iraq. To run home and admit defeat would change the course of the world. Then the terrorists would have won....as it appears way too many dems/kerry supporters would like to see.
Better learn how a democracy works As for the success of Kerry's anti-democracy protests and his leadership of the VVAW and association with Fonda's Winter Soldier Investigation, General Vo Nguyen Giap, Vietnam's most decorated military leader, wrote in retrospect that if not for the disunity created by such stateside protesters, Hanoi would have ultimately surrendered.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, which states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath ... to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington
posted on October 1, 2004 11:33:23 AM
OK Linda, I misread the article. The $2.2 billion was ana dditional funding request for the troops.
Here is how the money is actually being spent
"This $87 billion is really just a down payment," said Scott Lilly, the Democratic staff director of the House Appropriations Committee and a military procurement expert. ... That $3.3 billion [for military "reset"] is a small part of the
$65.5 billion that would go to the Defense Department; the other $21.1 billion would go for reconstruction. Almost half of the defense money, $32.3 billion, would be used for fuel, food and other costs of combat and occupation, while $18.5 billion is being requested for reserve and National Guard salaries and other personnel costs. Iraq war costs escalate sharply, By Jonathan Weisman and Renae Merle, THE WASHINGTON POST, Sep. 13, 2003 [now in paid archives. Bolding emphasis added -lrw]
$32.3 billion, would be used for fuel, food and other costs of combat and occupation,
How much of that $32.3 billion was spent on protection for our troops??
Interesting tidbit in the above article:
Remarkably, for women [Psychologist] Carrie [Keating of Colgate U.] has found no relationship between deception and leadership. ... But with adult males, as with children, Carrie has found an unmistakable connection.
DICK CHENEY SUPPORTS MY RELATIONSHIP: People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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posted on October 1, 2004 11:49:49 AM
Linda_k, I'm sorry. My apologies for posting false information as I didn't realize that there was now an official abbreviated version of the Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3 and the original one is now defunct.
I was just wondering if all that BS you had as a sig line was something that you came up with yourself, that's all. Call me petty but at least I watched and listened to the debate and didn't just focus on Kerry's manicure like you did. Now that's not only petty, that's close-minded.
Actually I enjoyed the debate and it wasn't quite as scripted as I thought it would be. I'm looking forward to the next ones and even if Kerry performed badly and Bush performed super well I wouldn't be afraid to say so.
posted on October 1, 2004 12:02:43 PM
I think linda and bush are related(a little inbreeding never hurt anybody):
They're both "steadfast" which we now can recognize as too stupid to reason.
linda says,
"So...being that kerry doesn't know what he'll actually do in Iraq....and neither does anyone else at this point....
""""""I'd be since he DOESN'T have the same information President Bush DOES HAVE""""""(WHAT?)
....that's what makes the difference....the lefties have no CLUE as to what's going on....whether it's the right or wrong path...right or wrong policies. But THIS President is not going to give up the war or the terrorists. And they're in Iraq. To run home and admit defeat would change the course of the world. Then the terrorists would have won....as it appears way too many dems/kerry supporters would like to see. "
We KNOW we are on the wrong path in Iraq...it's bush who doesn't seem to get it!
NO ONE, NOT KERRY, NOT anyone has suggested we "run home and admit defeat "...
You are grossly insulting(as usual)and completely inaccurate(as usual) to suggest we want terrorists to win
If you had listened to the debate Kerry said what he was going to do in Iraq but you're too "steadfast(pig-headed) to listen.
You are delusional.
posted on October 1, 2004 06:01:46 PMAnd anyone with one ounce of knowledge about how you have to operate in Congress can find no fault with any of Kerry's record
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What's Sen. Kerry's Record?
It's about time that the press stops talking about "polls" and starts talking substance when it comes to Sen. John Kerry's record. So, for all those who would like to know what "Old Botox" Kerry has done in his "experienced" 35 year career, we thought the following might help:
"OLD BOTOX" VOTES IN LOCKSTEP WITH SEN. TED KENNEDY
On Key Votes, Kerry Voted 100% Of The Time With Senator Kennedy In 2001, 1999, 1998, 1993, 1992, 1989, 1988, 1987, 1986, and 1985. Over the course of his Senate career, Kerry has sided with Senator Kennedy 94% of the time for key votes.
As Michael Dukakis’ Lt. Governor From 1983-1985, Kerry Supported Granting Prison Furloughs To Hundreds Of Massachusetts Inmates. Later as a U.S. Senator in 1988, he defended the program: “The furlough program in Massachusetts is tougher than the federal program.” (John King, “Bush Surrogate Gets Ambushed In Dukakis Territory,” The Associated Press , July 6, 1988)
KERRY CLAIMS HE’S FOR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, BUT VOTES FOR HIGHER TAXES, AND AGAINST TAX CUTS
Kerry Has Voted Against A Balanced Budget Amendment At Least Five Times. Other fiscally irresponsible votes include at least three key votes against lowering overall spending.
Kerry Voted Against President Bush’s Tax Cuts, At Least The Tenth Key Anti-Tax Relief Vote Of His Senate Career.
Kerry Voted For The Biggest Tax Increase In American History Under President Clinton.
Kerry Has A Lifetime Rating Of 26% From Citizens Against Government Waste And Is A Long-Time Supporter Of Federal Funding For Boston’s “Big Dig.” Former Senate Government Affairs Chairman John McCain called the project “the biggest, most costly public works project in U.S. history.” The “Big Dig” was estimated to cost $2.6 billion when it was approved in 1985. The cost to date has totaled more than $13.6 billion. (“Congressional Ratings,” Citizens Against Government Waste Website, www.cagw.org, Accessed January 7, 2003; Natalie M. Henry, “Senate Commerce Investigates Overspending On Boston’s ‘Big Dig,’” Environment And Energy Daily , May 3, 2000)
KERRY IS EXTREME ON ABORTION, SUPPORTING FEDERAL FUNDING AND PARTIAL-BIRTH ABORTIONS
Kerry Voted At Least Three Times Against Banning Partial-Birth Abortions.
Kerry Voted To Allow Federal Funding Of Abortions And To Provide Abortion Counseling In Federally-Funded Clinics.
KERRY IN DEPTH
Kerry’s Lifetime Vote Rating From Americans For Democratic Action Is Five Points Higher Than That Of Fellow Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy. While Kennedy only rates an 88 lifetime average, Kerry has a lifetime average of 93. (Americans For Democratic Action Website, www.adaction.org, Accessed December 9, 2002)
Kerry And Kennedy Had Exactly The Same Low Rating From The American Conservative Union In Both 2001 (4%) And 2000 (12%). Kerry’s lifetime rating from the ACU is 5%. (American Conservation Union Website, www.acuratings.org, Accessed December 9, 2002)
Kerry Is Against The Death Penalty. “I’m opposed to the death penalty in the criminal justice system because I think it’s applied unfairly . . . .” (NBC’s “Meet The Press,” December 1, 2002)
Kerry Is An Extreme Environmentalist Who Voted With The Activist Group, The League Of Conservation Voters, An Average Of 95% Of The Time In The Last Three Congresses. (League Of Conservation Voters Website, www.lcv.org, Accessed December 9, 2002)
Kerry Has Voted For At Least Seven Major Reductions In Defense And Military Spending Necessary For Our National Security. (S. 1438, Roll Call Vote #286: Motion agreed to 53-47: R 21-28; D 31-19, September 25, 2001; S. 1087, Roll Call Vote #397: Passed 62-35: R 48-4; D 14-31, September 5, 1995; S. 1298, Roll Call Vote #251: Adopted 50-48: R 6-36; D 44-12, September 9, 1993; S. 3114, Roll Call Vote #182: Motion Rejected 43-49: R 34-5; D 9-44, August 7, 1992; S. 2399, Roll Call Vote #56: Motion rejected 50-48: R 3-40; D 47-8, March 26, 1992; H.R. 2707, Roll Call Vote #182: Motion Rejected 28-69 R 3-39; D 25-30, September 10, 1991; S. 1352, Roll Call Vote #148: Motion agreed to 50-47: R 37-6; D 13-41, June 27, 1989)
KERRY CLAIMS HE’S FOR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, BUT HAS A HISTORY OF VOTING FOR HIGHER TAXES AND AGAINST TAX CUTS
Kerry Called For “Fiscal Responsibility,” Just Like When He Voted For The 1993 Tax Hike, The Largest In History. “All the Democrats have generally resisted the GOP proposal to make the tax cuts permanent. . . . Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry called for ‘a return to the fiscal responsibility we gave this country in 1993 when we passed the Deficit Reduction Act .’” (Will Lester, “Top Democrats Complain About Bush Economic Plans, But Some Steer Away From Tax Debate,” The Associated Press , October 15, 2002)
In His Senate Career, Kerry Has Voted Against A Balanced Budget Amendment At Least Five Times. Other fiscally irresponsible votes include at least three key votes against lowering overall spending. (S.J. Res. 1, Roll Call Vote #24: Rejected 66-34: R 55-0; D 11-34, March 4, 1997; H.J. Res. 1, Roll Call Vote #158: Rejected 64-35: R 52-1; D 12-34, June 6, 1996; H.J. Res. 1, Roll Call Vote #98: Rejected 65-35: R 51-2; D 14-33, March 2, 1995; S.J. Res. 41, Roll Call Vote #48: Rejected 63-37: R 41-3; D 22-34, March 1, 1994; S.J. Res. 225, Roll Call Vote #45: Rejected 66-34: R 43-10; D 23-24, March 25, 1986)
Kerry Has A Lifetime Rating Of 26% From Citizens Against Government Waste And Is A Long-Time Supporter Of Federal Funding For Boston’s “Big Dig.” Former Senate Government Affairs Chairman John McCain called the project “the biggest, most costly public works project in U.S. history.” The “Big Dig” was estimated to cost $2.6 billion when it was approved in 1985. The cost to date has totaled more than $13.6 billion. (“Congressional Ratings,” Citizens Against Government Waste Website, www.cagw.org, Accessed January 7, 2003; Natalie M. Henry, “Senate Commerce Investigates Overspending On Boston's ‘Big Dig’,” Environment and Energy Daily , May 3, 2000)
Kerry Voted Against President Bush’s Tax Cuts, At Least The Tenth Major Anti-Tax Relief Vote Of His Senate Career. (H.R. 1836, Roll Call Vote #165: Adopted 62-38: R 50-0; D 12-38, May 23, 2001; H. Con. Res. 83, Roll Call Vote #69: Adopted 53-47: R 4-46; D 49-1, April 4, 2001; S. 1429, Roll Call Vote #247: Passed 57-43: R 52-2; D 4-41; I 1-0, July 30, 1999; H.R. 2646, Roll Call Vote #169: Adopted 59-36: R 51-2; D 8-34, June 24, 1998; H.R. 2646, Roll Call Vote #288: Rejected 56-41: R 54-1; D 2-40, October 30, 1997; H. Con. Res. 84, Roll Call Vote #92: Adopted 78-22: R 41-14; D 37-8, May 23, 1997; S. 1028, Roll Call Vote #72: Adopted 52-46: R 5-46; D 47-0, April 18, 1996; H.R. 2264, Roll Call Vote #190: Passed 50-49: R 0-43; D 49-6, June 25, 1993; H. Con. Res. 64, Roll Call Vote #83: Adopted 54-45: R 0-43; D 54-2, March 25, 1993; H.R. 3628, Roll Call Vote #298: Rejected 51-47 (needed 2/3 majority): R 45-0; D 6-47, November 15, 1989 )
Kerry Voted At Least Five Times To Raid The Social Security Trust Fund. (H.R. 2014, Roll Call Vote #211: Conference Report Agreed To 92-8: R 55-0; D 37-8, July 31, 1997; H.R. 2264, Roll Call Vote #247: Conference Report Agreed To 50-50, With Vice President Gore Voting Yea: R 0-44; D 50-6, August 6, 1993; H.Con.Res. 268, Roll Call Vote #167: Conference Report Agreed To 58-29: R 21-20; D 37-9, June 6, 1988; H.R. 3545, Roll Call Vote #419: Conference Report Agreed To 61-28: R 18-23; D 43-5, December 21, 1987; H.R. 3128, Roll Call Vote #379: Conference Report Agreed To 78-1: R 40-1; D 38-0, December 19, 1985)
KERRY IS EXTREME ON ABORTION, SUPPORTING FEDERAL FUNDING OF ABORTIONS AND PARTIAL-BIRTH ABORTIONS
Kerry Voted At Least Three Times Against Banning Partial-Birth Abortions. (H.R. 1833, Roll Call Vote #596: Adopted 54-44: R 45-8; D 9-36, December 7, 1995; H.R. 1833, Roll Call Vote #301: Veto Override Rejected 57-41: R 45-6; D 12-35, September 26, 1996; H.R. 1122, Roll Call Vote #277: Veto Override Rejected 64-36: R 51-4; D 13-32, September 18, 1998)
Kerry Voted To Allow Federal Funding Of Abortions And To Provide Abortion Counseling In Federally-Funded Clinics. (H.R. 2518, Roll Call Vote #290: Rejected 40-59: R 6-38; D 34-21, September 28, 1993; S. 323, Roll Call Vote #254: Passed 73-26: R 20-23; D 53-3, October 1, 1992)
Kerry Has Voted Against Requiring Parental Notification For Minors’ Abortions. (H.R. 5257, Roll Call Vote #266: Motion Rejected 48-48: R 8-34; D 40-14, October 12, 1990) While Kerry Earns A 0% Rating From The National Right To Life Committee, His National Abortion And Reproductive Rights League Rating Is Consistently 100%. (Vote Smart Interest Group Ratings, www.vote-smart.org, Accessed December 6, 2002)
Against The Bush Tax Cut: Kerry voted against a $1.35 trillion tax cut package to reduce income-tax rates, alleviate the “marriage penalty” and gradually repeal the estate tax. (H.R. 1836, Roll Call Vote #165: Adopted 62-38: R 50-0; D 12-38, May 23, 2001)
For Reducing Size Of The Tax Cut: Kerry voted to reduce Bush’s proposed tax cut ceiling by $448 billion over 10 years. (H. Con. Res. 83, Roll Call Vote #69: Adopted 53-47: R 4-46; D 49-1, April 4, 2001)
106 th Congress, 1999-2000 Senate Votes
Against Genetic Privacy: Kerry voted against approving a GOP plan to restrict use of genetic information by health insurers. (Amendment To H.R. 4577, Roll Call Vote #165: Amendment Passed 58-40: R 55-0; D 3-40, June 29, 2000)
Against Reducing Taxes: Kerry voted against reducing federal taxes by $792 billion over 10 years. (S. 1429, Roll Call Vote #247: Passed 57-43: R 53-2; D 4-41, July 30, 1999)
105 th Congress, 1997-98 Senate Votes
Against Banning Partial-Birth Abortion: Kerry voted against a ban on “partial-birth” abortions. (H.R. 1122, Roll Call Vote #277: Rejected 64-36: R 51-4; D 13-32, September 18, 1998)
Against Banning Cloning: Kerry voted against allowing vote to ban human cloning. (S. 1601, Roll Call Vote #10: Cloture Motion Rejected 42-54: R 42-12; D 0-42, February 11, 1998)
Against Educational Savings Accounts: Kerry voted against allowing a vote to create educational savings accounts. (H.R. 2646, Roll Call Vote #288: Cloture Motion Rejected 56-41: R 54-1; D 2-40, October 30, 1997)
Against Fiscally Responsible Budget: Kerry voted against approving a GOP budget to cut spending and taxes. (H. Con. Res. 84, Roll Call Vote #92: Adopted 78-22: R 41-14; D 37-8, May 23, 1997)
Against Balanced-Budget Amendment: Kerry voted against approving a balanced-budget constitutional amendment. (S.J. Res. 1, Roll Call Vote #24: Rejected 66-34: R 55-0; D 11-34, March 4, 1997)
104 th Congress, 1995-96 Senate Votes
Against Balancing The Budget: Kerry voted against a bipartisan plan to balance the budget in seven years. (S. Con. Res. 57, Roll Call Vote #150: Rejected 46-53: R 22-30; D 24-23, May 23, 1996)
Against Tort Reform: Kerry voted against allowing a vote to approve a cap on punitive damages in product liability cases. (H.R. 956, Roll Call Vote #152: Rejected 47-52: R 45-9; D 2-43, May 4, 1995)
103 rd Congress, 1993-94 Senate Votes
Against Spending Reductions: Kerry voted to kill an amendment to reduce budget spending by $94 billion. (H.R. 3759, Roll Call Vote #35: Motion To Table Adopted 65-31: R 23-19; D 42-12, February 9, 1994)
For The Largest Tax Increase In American History: Kerry voted to pass Clinton’s budget that raised taxes and cut spending. (H.R. 2264, Roll Call Vote #247: Adopted 51-50: R 0-44; D 50-6, With Vice President Gore Voting “Yea,” August 6, 1993)
102 nd Congress, 1991-92 Senate Votes
Against Stopping Missile Defense Spending Cuts: Kerry voted against a motion to kill an amendment that proposed deeper cuts in SDI spending. (S. 3114, Roll Call Vote #182: Motion To Table Rejected 43-49: R 34-5; D 9-44, August 7, 1992)
Against School Choice: Kerry voted against approving a school-choice pilot program. (S. 2, Roll Call Vote #5: Rejected 36-57: R 33-6; D 3-51, January 23, 1992)
Against Thomas Nomination: Kerry voted against confirming Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court. (Roll Call Vote #220: Confirmed 52-48: R 41-2; D 11-46, October 15, 1991)
For Defense Spending Reductions: Kerry voted to transfer $3.1 billion to domestic programs from Defense department accounts. (H.R. 2707, Roll Call Vote #182: Motion Rejected 28-69 R 3-39; D 25-30, September 10, 1991)
Against Persian Gulf War: Kerry voted against authorizing the use of force in the Persian Gulf. (S.J. Res. 2, Roll Call Vote #2: Passed 52-47: R 42-2; D 10-45, January 12, 1991)
101 st Congress, 1989-90 Senate Votes
Against Flag Burning Amendment: Kerry voted against a constitutional amendment on flag desecration. (S.J. Res. 332, Roll Call Vote #128: Rejected 58-42: R 38-7; D 20-35, June 26, 1990)
Against Parental Notification For Minors’ Abortions: Kerry voted to kill an amendment requiring parental notice for minors’ abortions. (H.R. 5257, Roll Call Vote #266: Motion To Table Rejected 48-48: R 8-34; D 40-14, October 12, 1990)
Against Considering A Capitol Gains Tax Cut: Kerry voted against allowing a vote on a capital gains tax cut. (H.R. 3628, Roll Call Vote #295: Motion To Table Rejected 51-47 (Needed 2/3 Majority): R 45-0; D 6-47, November 14, 1989)
100 th Congress, 1987-88 Senate Votes
Against Death Penalty For Drug-Related Murders: Kerry voted against approving the death penalty for drug-related murders. (S. 2455, Roll Call Vote #175: Passed 65-29: R 37-6; D 28-23, June 10, 1988)
Against Bork Nomination: Kerry voted against confirming Supreme Court Nominee Judge Robert H. Bork. (Roll Call Vote #348: Confirmation Rejected 42-58: R 40-6; D 2-52, October 23, 1987)
99 th Congress, 1985-86 Senate Votes
Against Rehnquist Nomination: Kerry voted against the confirmation of William Rehnquist to become the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. (Roll Call Vote #266: Confirmed 65-33: R 49-2; D 16-31, September 17, 1986)
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The person who has nothing for which he is willing
to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill
[ edited by Bear1949 on Oct 1, 2004 06:05 PM ]
posted on October 1, 2004 06:05:52 PM
HA! The neocon grunts and c&p's !
""OLD BOTOX" VOTES IN LOCKSTEP WITH SEN. TED KENNEDY
On Key Votes, Kerry Voted 100% Of The Time With Senator Kennedy In 2001, 1999, 1998, 1993, 1992, 1989, 1988, 1987, 1986, and 1985. Over the course of his Senate career, Kerry has sided with Senator Kennedy 94% of the time for key votes."
And I'm the one who spends too much time posting? 
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