Reamond
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posted on October 3, 2004 07:43:13 AM new
Do you really think that a state that does not want homosexual marriage will accept it?
They will accept it the same way they were forced to accept mixed race marriages and civil rights for racial minorities.
Same sex marriage are in fact less of a change than the racial civil rights changes.
There will be far fewer changes and it will be hardly noticeable that same sex marriages even exist.
The people making a mountain out of a mole hill are the ones against same sex marriages.
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Twelvepole
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posted on October 3, 2004 07:48:11 AM new
I think that the USSC will not overturn any states law on homosexual marriage, that is where it will end.
So yes you are right it will be a moot point.
and btw the homosexuals are the ones who have made this an issue... it has and will continue to cost kerry votes.
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Reamond
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posted on October 3, 2004 07:50:51 AM new
What jont liability for things such as debts and joint assets in the marriage ?
One spouse moves to a state that doesn't recognize the marriage after the other spouse runs up huge medical bills and can't pay.
In many states a married spouse is responsible for the medical bills of his/her spouse.
So they can cash in their assets and the other spouse can move to a state that doesn't recognize the marriage.
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Twelvepole
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posted on October 3, 2004 07:54:52 AM new
If both names are on the bills, doesn't matter... both are still required to pay... has nothing to do with marriage...
Have homosexuals never heard of a will?
never heard of power of attorney?
living will?
There many venues that will get them what they want without being married...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
Re-Elect President Bush... the only true choice.
[ edited by Twelvepole on Oct 3, 2004 08:09 AM ]
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logansdad
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posted on October 3, 2004 08:31:59 AM new
and btw the homosexuals are the ones who have made this an issue... it has and will continue to cost kerry votes
Just like Bush's stance on a constitutional amendment has cost him votes.
DICK CHENEY SUPPORTS MY RELATIONSHIP: People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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Twelvepole
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posted on October 3, 2004 08:58:51 AM new
Not really, people who are for homosexual marriage wouldn't of voted for President Bush anyway... however those that usually vote democrat, in fact vote republican because of this issue...
It has already been noted that President Bush will probably garner more the black vote this year because of this issue.
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
Re-Elect President Bush... the only true choice.
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Reamond
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posted on October 3, 2004 12:47:34 PM new
Not really, people who are for homosexual marriage wouldn't of voted for President Bush anyway
That's interesting, I guess Cheney won't be voting for Bush then.
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logansdad
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posted on October 3, 2004 01:10:31 PM new
Oh come on Readmond don't you know Cheney is not for homosexual marriages.......
This is not my opinion but something Twelve would say in response to your statement.
DICK CHENEY SUPPORTS MY RELATIONSHIP: People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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Linda_K
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posted on October 3, 2004 01:21:46 PM new
That's interesting, I guess Cheney won't be voting for Bush then.
Sure he will...how silly to say differently.
Cheney has said he supports each state deciding for themselves. And that's just what they're doing. State after state after state is voting against gay marriage.
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Twelvepole
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posted on October 3, 2004 03:06:08 PM new
Hey logansdad finally understands Cheney's position...
You are right, he is not for homosexual marriage, he is one of those Americans that tolerate homosexual lifestyle.
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
Re-Elect President Bush... the only true choice.
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logansdad
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posted on October 3, 2004 06:03:24 PM new
Cheney has said he supports each state deciding for themselves
But he also said people should be free to enter into any type of relationship they want to....which implies marriage.
DICK CHENEY SUPPORTS MY RELATIONSHIP: People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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logansdad
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posted on October 3, 2004 06:04:23 PM new
Hey logansdad finally understands Cheney's position...
You are right, he is not for homosexual marriage,
Archie that is not what I said. Cheney favors gay marriage in my opinion.
DICK CHENEY SUPPORTS MY RELATIONSHIP: People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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Twelvepole
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posted on October 3, 2004 06:09:53 PM new
Well you are welcome to your dreams...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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Linda_K
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posted on October 3, 2004 06:16:54 PM new
Well, we'll find out in less than a month, when 11 more state ballots will have this issue on them.
So far the gay community only looks hopeful for two states....and doesn't sound real strong in either of those. But they're pouring $600,000. into Oregon. Only Portland is heavily gay...the rest of the state, small towns don't don't really show much support for the gay agenda. Time will tell.
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yeager
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posted on October 4, 2004 03:17:20 AM new
twelve says,
If both names are on the bills, doesn't matter... both are still required to pay... has nothing to do with marriage...
But is only the name of one person is on the bill, and only that person is the guarantor of the bill, the hospital looses. Not all bills will be joint in responsibility.
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yeager
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posted on October 4, 2004 03:30:58 AM new
They will accept it the same way they were forced to accept mixed race marriages and civil rights for racial minorities.
Reamond, that is a very true statement. If I told twelve and linda that I saw four black people at a restaurant sitting eating their lunch, they would say, so what! Who cares about that? But on February 1, 1960, it made national news.
Just as this is no longer a news article, gay marriage won't be in a few years either. Just as their are still bigots who hate Blacks, there will be bigots who will hate Gays too.
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yeager
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posted on October 4, 2004 03:58:35 AM new
The USSC will very likely end up ruling on the Gay Marriage. It rules on everything from abortion to the death penalty. The Supreme Court is being asked to determine moral issues that fall outside the scope of strict constitutional interpretation.
Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says, "It is blindingly clear judges have no greater capacity than the rest of us to determine what is moral."
As I have said time and again, the final decision will NOT be based on any religious doctrine, in the fact the US government doesn't recognize any certain religion. It will be decided based on equality for those involved. The simple fact is that Gay Americans are equal as citizens. There is no citizen that has a legal right to be married. I don't think the court will allow a segment of the population to have a certain right and another segment denied the same right.
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Twelvepole
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posted on October 4, 2004 05:28:52 AM new
You forgot bigots who hate religon...
It is apalling how you lefties keep trying to tie this to the civil rights movement of the 60's... but I guess when something can't stand on merit by itself a crutch is needed... of course this is backlashing on the homosexuals...
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yeager
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posted on October 4, 2004 08:06:02 AM new
Sorry,
I don't hate religion, I hate religious bigots. There is a major difference.
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Twelvepole
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posted on October 4, 2004 05:42:11 PM new
There is a major difference.
Only in your mentally deficient mind
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yeager
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posted on October 4, 2004 08:33:23 PM new
twinkle (twelve) toes,
Only in your mentally deficient mind
You are getting more stupid all the times with these comments. So, now are you saying that religion and religious bigots are the same thing?????????????????
This should be interesting at the very least.
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
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President Bush... the only true choice for more failed policies.
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[ edited by yeager on Oct 4, 2004 08:34 PM ]
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Twelvepole
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posted on October 5, 2004 05:10:23 AM new
I don't know any religious bigots.... those are your words... a word I am beginning you really don't have a clue as to the meaning... best look in that mirror yeager... great example.
Your continuing bashing of religon however is quite apparent....
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