posted on October 11, 2004 08:38:37 AM
What Democrats Still Don't Get
Laura Ingraham (back to web version) | Send
October 11, 2004
Top Democrats advising the Kerry campaign are scratching their heads raw this week, trying to figure out why John Kerry--even with solid debate performances under his belt and continuing violence in Iraq--still is still having such a hard time convincing voters he would be a more effective commander-in-chief than George Bush. But the answer is actually fairly simple. Kerry--like all doves--is unpersuasive on national security issues because he doesn't realize certain basic truths that have guided American policy for decades.
These are:
1. The world is a dangerous place, filled with deadly people. Not just people who are misunderstood. Not just people who are poor. Not just people who have different "values." After 3,000 of our fellow citizens were incinerated on September 11th by Islamist mass murderers, John Kerry can still tell the New York Times Magazine this week that "we have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance." How amazingly irresponsible and stunningly stupid. Deadly people with the means and commitment to inflict large casualties on U.S. citizens will never just be nuisances. President Bush knows this. The American people know it. American liberals don't.
2. Most nations in the world look out for themselves. We cringe at the idea of a 'global test' because we know who's going to be grading the test. We know the anti-Americanism that exists around the world. We know the incompetence and corruption that dominates the UN. We know that leaders like Jacques Chirac and Gerhard Schroeder are determined to take any opportunity to hinder the United States. We know that international media organizations, from the BBC to Al-Jazeera, are doing everything they can to whip up even more hostility toward this country. In short, we know that you would have a better chance at a fair hearing in an Olympic figure-skating competition than you would of getting a fair grade on a 'global test.'" George Bush knows this. The American people know this. American liberals don't.
3. America is not the world's problem--America is the world's solution. Tying down the United States--through international treaties like Kyoto or the International Criminal Court, or through imposing a "global test" on our ability to respond to problems-will not make the world safer. It will make the world less safe.
Limiting U.S. power will not make the world better. It will lead to more pain, more death, more suffering. The United States is the only great nation in the world whose people are willing to make real sacrifices of blood and treasure for world peace. If we don't do it, no one will. President Bush knows this. The American people know it. American liberals don't.
American liberals are making the same mistake in the war on terror that they made during the Cold War.
They trust anti-American voices around the world more than they trust the American people. During the second debate, John Kerry was still touting UN sanctions as a viable way to contain Saddam, despite everything we have already learned about the oil for food pay-offs to foreign interests (in both France and Russia). Liberals believe that our responsibilities can be shoved onto the backs of other countries that have made it abundantly clear have no intention of helping us. (Although even Kerry had to admit last week that France and Germany will not send troops to Iraq even if he wins on November 2.) They believe in a moral equivalence between the United States and its adversaries. They were wrong in the 1980's, and they are wrong today.
That is why Kerry cannot articulate a credible plan to win the war on terrorism. That is why Edwards looked and sounded so vague during his debate. Until American liberals overcome this fear of the American people--until they learn to trust us more than they trust their friends in Europe--they will flip, flop and flounder in their effort to take back the White House.
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"And they, the interrogator went through all of these statements from John Kerry. He starts pounding on the table. 'See here, this naval officer, he admits that you are a criminal.'" Excerpt from "Stolen Honor"
- James H. Warner
Former Vietnam POW
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
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[ edited by Linda_K on Oct 11, 2004 08:47 AM ]
posted on October 11, 2004 09:55:53 AM
If you are SO sure bush is going to win.....why post this long, boring diatribe which proves nothing except that you're desperate or desperately trying to spread your usual message of hate.???????
posted on October 11, 2004 01:45:50 PM
So true and Linda, here is another article that strikes to the core of the (DEMOlition) matter.
Who Are the Real Nazis in America Today?
Written by Cinnamon Stillwell
Monday, October 11, 2004
* Thugs storm campaign headquarters, intimidating staffers and refusing to leave.
* Campaign signs are vandalized, stolen, and set on fire in front of peoples' homes.
* The word ''Nazi'' is spray painted on the sidewalk in front of a home, along with swastikas.
* Shots are fired through the window of campaign headquarters.
* An 8-foot swastika is burned into a home’s front lawn.
If these incidents sound reminiscent of Nazi Germany or the Klu Klux Klan's early rampages, then you're in for a surprise, because they all took place in modern day America, during the run-up to the 2004 presidential election. And instead of Nazis and the KKK, it's Democrats and their leftist minions who are the perpetrators this time around. In a classic case of projection, they use swastikas to smear their political adversaries, when it is in fact they who have become today's Nazis.
Like so much of America's leftist ''cultural heritage,'' this Nazi-obsession can be traced back to the 1960s. An Australian relative of mine who arrived in America during the so-called Summer of Love, was shocked to hear people using the term ''Nazi'' on a daily basis. The government, the police, and even parents were labeled ''fascists'' and ''Nazis'' by hippie youth rebelling against any and all authority.
Years later, not much has changed. Today it's hip on the left to label Republicans and in particular President Bush ''Nazis'' at every turn. Bush is routinely compared to Adolph Hitler, most famously in an ad put out by Democratic 527 MoveOn.org earlier this year. Hitler mustaches superimposed on Bush photos are popular at anti-war rallies, as are cute little Bush/Hitler dolls. Al Gore's notorious ''digital Brown Shirts'' comment during a speech at the Georgetown University Law Center, implied that the Bush administration exerted some kind of diabolical control over online journalism. Indeed, such allusions are so widespread that numerous articles and websites have been devoted to chronicling them.
Trying to explain the ''logic'' behind this bizarre association, one of the teenagers arrested for spray painting swastikas on a Bush/Cheney supporter's property in Duluth, Minnesota said, ''The connection between the Nazi party was Hitler used nationalism as a way to motivate his cause and we feel that Bush is doing the same thing.'' Having been brainwashed by years of moral relativism, such youth are apparently unable to distinguish between patriotism and fascism. They also have a distorted view of their own behavior. As the same young man put it, ''We're anti-fascist.''
Leftist Jew-haters joined the crowd when they decided to start smearing Israel with the stain of Nazism. Despite the cruel irony of affixing the symbol of Jewish annihilation to a Jewish state, leftists have taken to this tactic with enthusiasm. Swastikas are now featured prominently at anti-war rallies, usually in combination with a Star of David. Along these lines, Israeli flags are routinely defiled by replacing the Star of David with a swastika. And now that these rallies have been infiltrated by various Islamist groups – with their Palestinian flags, Hamas-style chants, and subtle signs saying ''Kill the Jews'' among others – the sea of swastikas fits perfectly.
Similarly over the top are the accusations leveled against political foes in general these days. It is now common to label opponents ''hateful'' or ''filled with hate.'' Apparently, ''hate'' now describes anyone who holds a political viewpoint contrary to one's own. All this hysteria has the unfortunate effect of trivializing history and depleting language of meaning.
At the end of the day, the simple fact is that the only people in America today (aside from a few neo-Nazis) running around spray painting, burning, and affixing swastikas are leftists. In an effort to point out what they see as the fascistic impulses of the right, they have in effect become the Nazis they claim to oppose. Faced with a popular president, the momentum of history, and their own lust for power, the left has resorted to the tactics of fascism: harassment, intimidation, and violence. Lord only knows what they'll do if Bush wins the presidency come November, but you can be sure it will involve swastikas.
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The person who has nothing for which he is willing
to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill
posted on October 12, 2004 05:53:38 AM
Not quite, twelve. They have no tolerance for religion and especially for laughing or smiling.
YOU MUST NOT LAUGH>>>nor MAY YOU SMILE> EVER
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"And they, the interrogator went through all of these statements from John Kerry. He starts pounding on the table. 'See here, this naval officer, he admits that you are a criminal.'" Excerpt from "Stolen Honor"
- James H. Warner Former Vietnam POW
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
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posted on October 12, 2004 08:06:15 AM
linduh says,
"Not quite, twelve. They have no tolerance for religion and especially for laughing or smiling.
YOU MUST NOT LAUGH>>>nor MAY YOU SMILE> EVER "
I wonder where she ever read this....maybe in one of her little dreams or hallucinations ..????
I've never heard this from anyone in here nor have I ever heard any Democrat or liberal say that anywhere.
Poor linda...really sounds like her widdle feelings were hurt when she got analyzed correctly a few days ago.......being made to look like a fool with all her LOLs and smilies....
posted on October 12, 2004 08:39:34 AM
We should point out that her LOL's and smilies were criticized because they are used to deride and as an attempt to humiliate rather than for their intended purpose to laugh or show approval.
I seldom see Linda appear to enjoy anything other than making mean spirited and acerbic remarks. It's the reason she is now free to talk to herself so often.
posted on October 12, 2004 08:53:16 AMlefty "tolerance" allows anything goes...
Twinkle toes, what is you definition of tolerance then?
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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On This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld declares: "the area… that coalition forces control… happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
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posted on October 12, 2004 09:43:05 AMTwinkle toes, what is you definition of tolerance then?
Logansdad
I'll answer that question and I will put in language that applies to you. Allthough most of your fellow democrats are not homosexuals and they are repulsed by the thought of performing the same grotesque sexual acts on someone of the same sex as themselves. Sexual acts that you and others like you perform on the same sex of one another. Your fellow democrats understand that you have this sickness and pretend to sympithise with you and they choose to tolerate you. This tolerance only extends to the point that you may make a pass at one of them and/or offer an exchange of a same sex sexual encounter. I believe that if even Yeager is not a homosexual then he would probably be repulsed by you if you were ever to tell him that you loved him and that you would like to express your love for him by pleasuring him sexually. Am I right or am I wrong??
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YOU MUST NOT LAUGH>>>nor MAY YOU SMILE> EVER
That's funny Linda.
I have a proposition for all of us Conservatives and President Bush supporters on this board. If smiling and LOLing offends the left so much then from here to the end of the election lets all smile wink biggrin and LOL all that we can and if they don't like it, tough.
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
posted on October 12, 2004 10:01:16 AM yellowstone. It's not going to stop me, that's for sure. When I find something funny or absurd I'll laugh at it. And a lot of what is said here IS funny.
posted on October 12, 2004 10:12:12 AM
Ha! linduh has one idiot supporter....both imbeciles by the number of smiley faces....reminds me of how , when you tell a little kid to quit doing something stupid and obnoxious, they always have to do it just one more time........very childish.
But when you have nothing to say those smiley faces sure can take up the vacuum.
linduh lies, she said,
"Not quite, twelve. They have no tolerance for religion and especially for laughing or smiling.
YOU MUST NOT LAUGH>>>nor MAY YOU SMILE> EVER "
No one ever said this in here......so she obviously is on drugs, deranged, or just plain stupid.
And , on the subect of tolerance.....righties and neonazicons have no tolerance for anyone who isn't exactly like themselves.....they say EVERYONE should have the same religion.....isn't THAT intolerant.
EVERYONE should do exactly the same thing in bed(or in linduh's case, nothing), isn't that intolerance?
Isn't pleasure in killing people who don't agree with you intolerance?
Oh, the list of their intolerance is soooo long........
posted on October 12, 2004 10:20:55 AM When I find something funny or absurd I'll laugh at it. And a lot of what is said here IS funny.
If that’s the case, this report on the economy that was released today that shows the US with twin deficits and a downward spiral in the worldwide economy and the other report on over 39 million working poor that are making less than poverty wage should make you hysterical with laughter. After reading these two factual reports you should be rocketing across the floor with laughter. Maybe someone can find a story on some more people that got killed and it can add to your glee.
posted on October 12, 2004 10:32:02 AM
Your statements, kiara, are getting sicker and sicker by the day.
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"And they, the interrogator went through all of these statements from John Kerry. He starts pounding on the table. 'See here, this naval officer, he admits that you are a criminal.'" Excerpt from "Stolen Honor"
- James H. Warner Former Vietnam POW
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
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posted on October 12, 2004 10:57:43 AM
Typical lefty behavior. When you don't have the intellect to counter the topics, you attack the poster.
Hey, hey Ho, ho Kerry - sign the 1-8-0
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The person who has nothing for which he is willing
to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill
posted on October 12, 2004 11:13:22 AM
Bear your tagline is showing!
Talking about bush......."The person who has nothing for which he is willing
to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill
BEAR! You are SO right!!!!!That's bush in a nutshell.
Isn't it funny Kiara, that We are all...
""Your statements, kiara, are getting sicker and sicker by the day."""
Ya, the rabid, hatefilled, war mongering, linduh isn't sick....??????????
Well, ya, when you disagree with linduh or show her up to be wrong or perverted she then says somebody else is sick. Look, in the mirror linduh, ONE reflection Yours and is she the "fairst of all"? Nope, it's mean, it's evil, it likes torturing children, it's shriveled...........
posted on October 12, 2004 11:21:23 AM
And who's 'the sickest' of them all? crowfarm who continues along kiara's line of making totally FALSE accusations as is her normal behavior. Maybe kiara's trying for a cf wanna be.
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"And they, the interrogator went through all of these statements from John Kerry. He starts pounding on the table. 'See here, this naval officer, he admits that you are a criminal.'" Excerpt from "Stolen Honor"
- James H. Warner Former Vietnam POW
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Re-elect President Bush
posted on October 12, 2004 11:49:42 AM
I'm not making any false accusations about the economy or the working poor. The reports can be found on many major news sites. I'm just reporting reality...... deal with it.
posted on October 12, 2004 12:28:23 PM
kiara - Of course those weren't the sick comments I was referring to either. But you know that.
But go ahead, kiara....let everyone see that you can get just as low and dirty rolling in the mud as cf does. Can't stay on topic, always have to make everything personal, then whine whine whine about how I treat you. You've got some real issues of your own, kiara, when you resort to this nonsense.
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"And they, the interrogator went through all of these statements from John Kerry. He starts pounding on the table. 'See here, this naval officer, he admits that you are a criminal.'" Excerpt from "Stolen Honor"
- James H. Warner Former Vietnam POW
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Re-elect President Bush
posted on October 12, 2004 12:30:52 PM
A liberal in touch with reality? I don't think so. Great posts with the exception of the liberal weenie attempt to obfuscate.
posted on October 12, 2004 12:48:10 PM
I'm trying to make a point, Linda_K. You continually post your smilies for a different purpose than what the smilies were intended to denote. You call me sick........... I think it's even sicker to corrupt a smilie face icon.
Where do you see me whining about how you treat me? You're the real whiner here, playing victim once again. In case you didn't notice by now, I don't care whether you approve of me or my views or not.
posted on October 12, 2004 01:07:37 PM
I'm amazed that post came from you, Yellowstone. To say... "performing the same grotesque sexual acts on someone of the same sex as themselves"... is not to be tolerated, is crazy. Do you believe sex is grotesque? I'm beginning to think that people against gays are sexually immature (or are fixated on certain Bible passages). Look at what happens to the sexually immature - the priests, rapists, molesters - IT SCREWS YOUR MIND thinking that way.
posted on October 12, 2004 01:26:42 PM
Yellow: I believe that if even Yeager is not a homosexual then he would probably be repulsed by you if you were ever to tell him that you loved him and that you would like to express your love for him by pleasuring him sexually. Am I right or am I wrong??
Well once again you are using stereotypes to make your point.
Secondly I would not be expressing my "love" to Yeager or anyone else because I am already in a committed monogamous relationship. Which is more than I can say about you.....
You want to assume every gay person is hitting on every straight person they see. Which is totally wrong to assume on your part. I worked with this straight guy that went to an event - a street fair - with his straight friends (women). This event is held annually in the gay section of the city. Anyway afterward they went into a gay bar for drinks and dancing. The guy I worked with a the time was hit on by a gay guy. My friend was not repulsed at all, he simply said was he was not gay and the gay guy left him alone.
Are you jealous that you have not been hit on yet by a gay guy? LOL
they are repulsed by the thought of performing the same grotesque sexual acts on someone of the same sex as themselves. Sexual acts that you and others like you perform on the same sex of one another. Your fellow democrats understand that you have this sickness and pretend to sympithise with you and they choose to tolerate you.
Wake up sweetie. The Supreme Court already ruled that what people do in the privacy of their own home is nobody's business and is not illegal.
Now why don't you run along and actually look up the definition of tolerance because you still don't have a clue what it means.
While you are doing research about what tolerance means take an extra few minutes to look up the fact the APA does not define homosexuality as a sickness or mental disease. No matter what you think or feel will not change this FACT.
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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On This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld declares: "the area… that coalition forces control… happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
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posted on October 12, 2004 03:26:37 PMDo you believe sex is grotesque?
Kraftdinner
No I do not, however, when it is performed on someone of the same sex or when sodomy is performed on either sex then yes it is grotesque to me.
Now let me ask you a question Kraftdinner, first i'll say that I have seen nothing in your posts that leads me to belive that you have any tendencies towards homosexuality, other than that NYCRocker incedent a couple of years ago, LOL. Yes I know she was attracted to you and not vice-versa, I just thought i'd throw that in just for the helll of it and because it was funny when it was all going on, LOL. Now for my question; can you tell me that you yourself are not repulsed by the thought of going down on another female for oral sex or repulsed by the thought of someone performing sodomy on you or 2 males performing sodomy on each other.?? Sorry that I had to get into the gutter with my question but it is the only way that I can see to have you understand my point of view.
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LOLLOLLOLLOL and here's one just for cfLOL
posted on October 12, 2004 03:43:28 PM
Only a very immature person thinks discussing sex is going into the gutter.
But some have proved their immaturity and mental deterioration with putting as many smiley faces as possible in their posts.
But like I said, if you haven't anything worth saying ....fill up the vacuum with smiley faces.
linduh, I have never said anything false about you.
posted on October 12, 2004 03:54:54 PM
I originally directed my question to Kraftdinner but I think now that I would like redirect it to the entire community here and ask anyone that wants to answer my question to feel free to do so. Go ahead Crowfarm, give it a shot if you think you have what it would take to answer my question itelligently?? Yes yes, I know, I just made an oxymoron by using the words "Crowfarm" and "itelligently" in the same sentence.
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LOLLOLLOLLOL and here's one just for
cfLOL
posted on October 12, 2004 04:30:25 PM
Yellowstone, the thing is or should be, whatever I chose to do sexually is nobody's business. The gay issue has become political just because of how another person expresses themselves sexually. The government is trying to regulate sex, not marriage, not love, not partnership, but sex. When a government willingly sticks it's head in people's bedrooms to decide whether their behavior is acceptable, it's time to put up red flags. It's not just a gay issue, it's a human rights issue - that's what the Republicans don't get.
posted on October 12, 2004 05:08:37 PM
yellow: when sodomy is performed on either sex then yes it is grotesque to me.
I bet you don't say that when a women is going down at you.
Some say oral sex is not even sex.
Some would say watching women at strip clubs is grotesque.
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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On This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld declares: "the area… that coalition forces control… happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
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posted on October 12, 2004 05:37:15 PM
logans
Just so we understand each other, sodomy is not oral sex, sodomy is anal copulation. Also, I believe that anyone who goes to strip clubs just to watch women is a little wierd. I go to strip clubs to talk to women.
posted on October 12, 2004 05:49:52 PM
kraft if it is only sex, then once again they don't need to be married... homosexuals can do whatever they want behind the closed doors of their homes... however bringing it to my courthouse is not acceptable...
Excerpt from "Stolen Honor"
and LOLing offends the left so much then from here to the end of the election lets all smile 