posted on October 13, 2004 01:56:24 PM new
BUUUUUUT, Bill O'Reilly strikes back first.
This should prove to be entertaining. A liberal lawyer(just like the guy running for veep on the demo ticket), with an idiot client, abusing the legal system. It's OK if a PRESIDENT has an INTERN performing an allegedly non-sex act on her knees in the oval office, but God forbid a liberal #*!@ hears the wrong thing from somebody paying her $100,000.00 a year for her work product. THAT is worth $60,000,000.00. LOL! Did some fag in New Jersey provide professional guidance?
posted on October 13, 2004 02:35:21 PM new
I can identify with that being overlooked/excused when other CEO's/upper management would have been fired. But...the dems did excuse it, I agree.
I read just a little about this story...but am glad to see O'Reilly's decided to sue them. From what I understood it was an employee who previously worked for Fox News...then went to CNN...asked to be brought back to Fox...was..and then now trying to extort money from O'Reilly.
What wasn't clear to me was why he's also suing his own personal attorney along with this employee.
posted on October 13, 2004 03:06:07 PM new
Hey parklane64, I am very glad to see I am on your ignore list. What a victory for me. Its always good to make another Bush supporter to run and flee from the truth about your failed leaders bush/cheney.
Its hilarious that bush/cheney supporters say they don't like lawyers that is until they need one. HEY,HEY,HO,HO you dumb A$$ money counter. What they really don't like is the awards the juries are giving against greedy wrong doing corporations.
HEY,HEY,HO,HO people like parklane64 are so transparent.
posted on October 13, 2004 03:26:55 PM new
Park - I guess I missed the part of the article that included the political leanings of the lawyers, their firm and their client. Perhaps you can point that part out. Or is it that you believe that there is no such thing as a corrupt money hungy conservative. Guess you have never heard of Ken Lay or any of the other theiving useless heads of corporations that have recently been dethroned but were often seen at republican fundraisers prior to their deflocking.
Sorry sweetheart - greed is a non-partisan sin.
Linda - I think you misread the wording. O'Reilly is suing the woman, her lawyer and her lawyers lawfirm, not his.
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posted on October 13, 2004 04:28:42 PM new
Perhaps Park would love to explain how this attorney is "liberal" and how he is "just like the guy running for veep on the demo ticket".
I am guessing you can't and this is just another way for you to take a swing at John Edwards, who has absolutely nothing to do with this. Keep in mind, a lawsuit isn't considered frivilous just because the prosecution is suing someone for a large sum of money. It has to be deemed frivilous by a judge or jury. Similar to how O'Reilly's/FOX's lawsuit against Al Franken was thrown out of court.
By no means am I saying there aren't frivilous cases brought against corporations, because there are, however, a court of law is where these are decided whether they are frivilous or not. Just because an insurance company or corporation presents their arguement as it is frivilous doesn't mean it is so.
If this attorney and client were doing what O'Reilly alleges they were doing, then the attorney should be disbarred and O'Reilly's lawsuit upheld. This should never be a partisan issue as parklane likes to make it, but rather an issue of ethics.
posted on October 13, 2004 05:18:37 PM new
Here's the part that mentions the attorney's political affiliation.
[i]It is apparent that Defendants' outrageous monetary demand is motivated by their greed and also by Morelli's political connections. Morelli, his firm, and his wife, Arlene, are known supporters of and contributors to the Democratic Party, contributing to the campaigns of U.S. Senators John Kerry, John Edwards, Tom Daschle, and Charles Schumer, among others.
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posted on October 13, 2004 07:54:26 PM newMorelli, his firm, and his wife, Arlene, are known supporters of and contributors to the Democratic Party, contributing to the campaigns of U.S. Senators John Kerry, John Edwards, Tom Daschle, and Charles Schumer, among others.
And how much did they contribute to Republicans ? Many partners and associates in firms contribute to both parties.
But whether the attorney is a dem does not make the complaint untrue.
We'll now see just how well O'Reilly does when the forum is not his own show.
posted on October 14, 2004 03:13:21 PM new
What page of this thing does the "good stuff" start on? (I need to do a little research before I form an opinion....)
posted on October 15, 2004 06:28:55 AM new
So far O'Reilly has yelled alot about extortion, but has been unable to deny the dirty sex talk and ma$turbating made in the complaint.
He may have been informed that there are tapes and he doesn't want to add "liar" to his resume anymore than it already applies.
Prediction--- O'Reilly's extortion complaint will be tossed. You can't claim extortion when a lawyer is involved, it's called settlement negotiations.
If the tapes exist, O'Reilly is going down, which he should.
If that young lady were my daughter/sister/wife/girlfriend, I would have kicked O'Reiily's a$$ until his nose bled for doing what he is alleged to have done.
posted on October 15, 2004 07:55:58 AM new
That so called young lady just does not come across as being honest to me. My gut instincts tell me that this is just about a chance to score big in the money department.
If you see her on TV and watch her face she is no victim! I do not trust her one bit.
posted on October 15, 2004 08:04:11 AM new
Oh, so if you're a Democrat you are not allowed to practice your job or sue anyone....is that what the neonazicons are saying?
posted on October 15, 2004 08:12:58 AM newIf that young lady were my daughter/sister/wife/girlfriend, I would have kicked O'Reiily's a$$ until his nose bled for doing what he is alleged to have done.
posted on October 15, 2004 08:58:49 AM new
Sure it's all about money....especially that large of an amount. Trying to extort $60 million dollars to keep it [whatever "it" is] quiet when her attorney's highest court aware was $3.7 million for a case he handled where the employee actually slept with the accused.
Money and ratings....O'Reilly is a big threat to the left's agenda and his ratings continue to threaten them.
And it's odd that in all her time with Fox she never ever told anyone nor filed a complaint with their Human Resource department. Her email to a friend asking how she was doing there where she says everything was just super.
And I'm just sure there was something wrong with this woman's hand that actually hanging up the phone was not possible IF he was making these calls.
Yea....there's LOTS to question about her actions.
posted on October 16, 2004 12:41:21 AM new
maggie - I thought about that too when I read that part. But that's what's always so hard with these accusations...to know, for sure, who's telling the truth. Like other's have said though if the tapes validate her accusations, he's in trouble. Or if she really does have him on tape, whoever hears it should be able to tell if it was a mutual phone sex thing or not by what she says on it too.
But at her age I'd think she'd know how to handle an unwanted sexual call(s) and make it real clear he was stepping over the [professional] line.
posted on October 16, 2004 06:02:47 AM new
the tapes need to be heard, O'Reilly then will have to say something about them, however if he were to deny it now and the tapes prove to be him, he's toast.
Most sexual harrasment charges are baseless and set up... one of the worse laws on the books...
posted on October 16, 2004 06:19:49 AM new
I was listening to a news program and they were talking about this. If Bill O'Reilly really said those things why did the person on the other end listen. If a person whether male or female gets an obscene call you can always hang up the phone. That is simple and the right thing to do. Stop the preditor, but if you are in in for monatary value and you know the caller why not tape it and sue them. That is my take on this whether it be right or wrong I would never listen to an obscene phone call.
posted on October 16, 2004 12:10:22 PM newIf Bill O'Reilly really said those things why did the person on the other end listen.
Are you serious ? Have you no concept of power dynamics in the business world ? O'Reilly is her BOSS. If she complained her career would be in fact finished.
If a person whether male or female gets an obscene call you can always hang up the phone.
You can't hang up on people that control your career.
That is simple and the right thing to do.
It is not that simple.
Stop the preditor
It doesn't stop them, it will stop your career though.
but if you are in in for monatary value and you know the caller why not tape it and sue them.
Being in it for "monatarysic value" is what all working people are there for. Suing them is the only way to change behavior in the business world.
That is my take on this whether it be right or wrong I would never listen to an obscene phone call.
How many millionaires have you worked for in the media business ?
posted on October 16, 2004 12:13:37 PM new
I agree that one can hang up on an obscene call--no need to listen to filth.
OTOH, if I knew, or could discover, the identity of the caller and had the capability to record such a phone call, I would. I would use the recording to put an end that person's activities, either by letting the police, a wife, parent, etc. know what was going on.
I'm not big on suing, though, so I amin two minds about this case. If I tried to put a stop to such a person's activities (and keep them from trying it on others) and they in turn became vindictive over the matter--and had the power to harm me monetarily or otherwise--I might just consider suing.
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posted on October 17, 2004 12:43:08 PM new
You violated me with your talk, can I have my job back with a raise?
LMAO!
This is a scheming wench distorting and abusing the laws about sexual abuse in league with an ambulance chasing parasite. The liberal weenies thought they were going to neutralize or destroy O'Reilly with this lame barbra streisand. It backfired on them! He is getting a bigger share of the audience than ever!
Negotiations, hahahahahaha. Everybody else calls it blackmail or extortion.
posted on October 17, 2004 03:41:15 PM new
Reading reamonds response to septembermom made me think of how the dems excused the exact same behavior with clinton when he did the same thing to ....her name isn't coming to my mind....but the one he ended up paying $800,000 dollars to.
Sexual harassment on the job, whether by a President, or anyone else is against the law. But some dems are lovin' this with O'Reilly [IF it's even true] but excused clinton exact behavior. The hypocrisy here just kills me sometimes.
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posted on October 17, 2004 05:22:36 PM new
I myself never "excused" Clinton at all. HoweverI am "loving" O'Reilly's situation.
You see, he's always such a 'holier than thou' type...it tickles me when people like this inevitably do the same things they preach so loudly against. Theyn whine so about how unfairly they're being treated (guess they can dish it out, but they can't take it).
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posted on October 17, 2004 05:41:17 PM newI myself never "excused" Clinton at all.
I didn't say YOU did...you've previously claimed you're an Independent I believe so my statement wouldn't have included you.
HoweverI am "loving" O'Reilly's situation. You see, he's always such a 'holier than thou' type...it tickles me when people like this inevitably do the same things they preach so loudly against. Theyn whine so about how unfairly they're being treated (guess they can dish it out, but they can't take it).
You really surprise me bunni, since there's been no proof of wrong doing on O'Reilly's part...but yet you say 'he's done the same thing they preach so loudly about'. No conviction that I've seen so far. No proof she wasn't extorting money from him. Very unfair statement to make at this point in time, imo.
And O'Reilly has taken years of 'trash' being throw at him, so he CAN 'take it'. As he has become more and more successful the left has done everything they can to dismiss and discount his program. But...he's #1 on cable and has surpassed the ratings for many of the ABC networks for quite a while now.
Success acts as a magnet to those who are resentful and wish to participate in causing his downfall.
I believe he's a man of honor, strong moral base and UNTIL something's PROVEN...I think statements like yours are very unfair.
posted on October 17, 2004 05:55:06 PM new
Unfair? Perhaps you're right. On the other hand, he hasn't denied the charges either. And there seem to be witnesses to the behavior, as stated in the original article--and tapes,I believe, though I could be wrong about that.
But, Linda, how was my statement any more unfair than other cases that are discussed here & elsewhere, such as the Peterson case, where people declare someone guilty "without proof"?
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"Bad temper is its own scourge. Few things are more bitter than to feel bitter. A man's venom poisons himself more than his victim." --Charles Buxton
Excerpt from "Stolen Honor"