posted on November 21, 2004 08:52:20 PM new
The farmers are paid for the turkeys by the stores at the farmers normal asking price. Then the "store" reduces the price of the turkeys.
After the store reduces the cost of the turkeys to the customers, they sometimes raise the price of all the goodies that go with the turkey in order to recoup the loss leader.
posted on November 21, 2004 08:54:34 PM newLOL..I've been goosed too before, Profe, but without all that preparation ahead of time...But I was told the end result was pretty tasty, just the same..lol.. Mellow Maggie Rickem..Rackem..Rickem..Ruckum[/ Take that ball and really fight!
posted on November 22, 2004 06:38:33 AM new
LoL, profe, I posted my brief answer to fenix before I saw yours...
<sigh> I've lived a disadvantaged life and never tasted goose. They proliferate in a local park where my watercolor class goes to paint. Trying to navigate that park while keeping my shoes clean is my only association with the word "goose".. You might say that it's a foul one.
We have a very old, very large outside oven. It's called an horno in spanish. It was originally built for baking bread and roasting corn, but it also does a great job on big turkeys and other large meats. I once cooked a steamship round of beef in it...My grandmother used to give my grandfather a hard time for cooking meat in it, saying the meat fat would cause the adobe to soften and ruin it...hasn't happened yet, although we only cook meat in it once or twice a year, and it doesn't get used for bread nearly as regularly as I'd like..(damned low carb diet!)..It's built in a sort of dome shape out of adobe that's about a foot thick. We fire it with mesquite wood for a good 4 hours, and it gets up to about 500 degrees inside. Then, we shovel out the coals, swab the interior with a wet mop, and put whatever we're roasting or baking into it. The iron door is closed and chinked with mud. In the case of the turkey, it will be completely swathed in butter soaked cheesecloth, as you can't exactly baste in this kind of oven. No opening the door until the cooking's done. In 4 hours or so the bird will be finished. By the way, our big turkey is 39 pounds on "the hoof", but he'll only go about 25 or a bit more once he's dressed.
The kid goat will cook on an outside spit over mesquite, and the smithfield ham will cook in one of the kitchen ovens.
Lucky for us, this homestead was set up to routinely cook for a bunkhouse full of cowboys on a three times daily basis. The cowboys don't stick around full time anymore, but we've still got lots of ways to cook big old chunks of meat.
Helen, you need to eat goose at least once. We've got one here who's wreaking havoc with the barn cats. He just might make it to the Christmas table.
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posted on November 22, 2004 08:00:49 PM new
Profe,
WoW! And to think that I was proud of my double oven stove in my little kitchen. The only use that I've found for the second oven is a place to store extra pans.
Sounds like you have a goose that will soon be cooked! I'm surprised one hasn't visited my back yard.
posted on November 22, 2004 08:16:05 PM new
Awww come on now Profe, give 'ol Helen a goose will ya. I mean, what's a little goose between friends. You both might enjoy it.
posted on November 23, 2004 07:20:30 AM newHelen, you need to eat goose at least once. We've got one here who's wreaking havoc with the barn cats. He just might make it to the Christmas table.
ROFL!!
Now I have to go fix breakfast, all this food talk..... Smithfield Ham....... mmmmmmmm!!
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posted on November 23, 2004 09:22:08 AM new
Ha! NTS....I just knew that we would find SOMETHING.
This stove is wonderful...with six burners -- but I've never used more than three at once. When I bought it, my husband called it "overkill". Of course, I realize now that he was right but I haven't admitted that to him. LOL!
posted on November 23, 2004 09:54:53 AM new
Helll Helen, i've tried to chat with you without including nasty comments and it is impossible to do because of you're nasty replies. I recall a thread from a couple of months ago where I asked you an honest and worthy question but before you could answer it I had to jump through a few of you're nasty hoops first. You couldn't just answer the question, you had to try to belittle me first so you could hang on to that superiority personna that you believe that you have.
posted on November 23, 2004 11:37:50 AM new
Well....I'm filing a formal protest. The profe just cannot take the life of the most beautiful turkey I think I've ever seen. He's too prudy to eat. All the live turkeys I've ever seen have been white...ugly white...and oh-so-mean little buggers. I hated going into the turkey pen my Grandmother had...they'd always peck my legs.
And the ones that farmers here raise are also white, ugly and 'talkative'. If you're near their pens...and you start talking...your voices are quickly drown out by their noice making. When you stop talking, they stop. You start again, they start again.
THOSE are the turkeys we should enjoy eating at Thanksgiving....not the beautiful ones like the pic the profe posted.
posted on November 23, 2004 07:03:12 PM new
Thanks Linda. He was very handsome indeed..We usually raise an old fashioned breed called Bourbon Red. We order the chicks from Murray McMurray Hatchery, a great resource for heirloom poultry breeds. Their catalog is fun to look at even if you don't raise any poultry.
Sadly, that tom had a permanently useless foot due to a birth defect. He couldn't get around safely outside his very small pen. As a result, he grew very big and fat in record time. He wasn't a happy camper in his little enclosure, but he's going to make lots of us real happy day after tomorrow!
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posted on November 23, 2004 07:07:59 PM new
Near, 11 or 12 extra is no big deal around here at holiday time...if you show up early enough SWMBO and the girls will teach you how to make tamales and tortillas, bring your sleeping bags and your riding boots
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If you're near their pens...and you start talking...your voices are quickly drown out by their noice making. When you stop talking, they stop. You start again, they start again.