posted on March 21, 2005 07:38:40 AM
I think that most of here on the RT agree it is highly unlikely that Twelvepole would be quite that stupid.
Linda get off your high horse with the poor slandered Twelvepole crap!
Why wouldn't Crow come to this conclusion?
How many times did we read posts made by Twelve taunting her about her auctions? Many times... and towards his demise he even dedicated a thread to Crow.. where he called her every name in the book and harassed her endlessly.
Threatening her with how he would be meeting her in person this year..etc..
So, if you choose to defend him that's fine and in all likelihood he isn't the culprit in this instance.. but don't try and shove the poor innocent slandered Twelve down our throats.. as we are all aware that he bullied and butchered more than most do here on the RT.
This was more than a prank... this was auction interference and threatening. If it had been me, I think I'd have waited for payment of all 6 auctions to fail.. but then again...if this nut is dangerous.. would you want him to have 30 days with your contact information..before you took action?
I am sorry this happened to you Crowfarm.. I hope you are able to find out who the sicko is and let us all know.. Good luck! Maggie
posted on March 21, 2005 07:52:33 AM
Thank you, Maggie!
Yes, there is no defense for this type of abberant behavior.
My, wasn't that a strong overreaction from linduh!Hmmmmmm......
And linduh has never been able to answer a simple question like .....why would she , or anyone else, post in here hoping to get no response. She says I want attention so I guess SHE doesn't....but she keeps posting.??? This proves she has no concept of logic.
And the good "christian" libra has said that I deserved it....there's more than sickness here...stupidity is rife.
It may be true that someone wouldn't use such an obvious ID but then again, why not?
Sadly, it IS Vendio related and look at the ones who seem to be most upset by me.
Well, I've fought bigger battles...and won.
I have no fear of this one.
Thanks again! Keep 'em hoppin', Maggie!
posted on March 21, 2005 08:36:54 AM
Crowfarm there is venom in your posts when it comes to the republicans on this board. I suppose you can't believe that we are people also. This government is more than a one party system and I guess you can't understand that. There are two or more sides to every story but you can't understand that also.
You critize, swear and tell me I am an old bat. What do you expect back. It is in the way you post and the words that you use that bring hate to you. Understand if you can dish it out then you should be able to take it. Now go back into your hole and find out who in the world would bid on your auctions.
When 12 dished it out you didn't like it and came back twice as mean. You try and push everyone's buttons but you don't like yours pushed.
logic? Is that what you post crowfarm. Everything you say is logical? Get over yourself and come back to reality.
Everytime a discussion is started you are one of the first ones to trash it. Why do you do that so you can draw attention to yourself. Are you that starved for attention. Well you sure got it last night when we discussed your auctions. I bet you felt good about that.
posted on March 21, 2005 08:43:37 AM
I don't ordinarily hang out here but did in attempt to break the tedium of scanning. This thread is shocking!
If what you say is true about twelve making threats on your person and declaring he would meet you this year, then I think you have reason to be alarmed. This could even go beyond auction interference (which in itself is inexcusable).
It seems your bidder "twelvepole666" lives in West Virginia (at least according to ebay). Is that where twelve is from? I can't believe he would actually do something like this and use such a transparent id!
At any rate, perhaps Vendio, under the circumstances (all the threatening posts should still be around) would help you identify the twelve who posts here and you could match to the information you get from viewing "Payment status" on ebay...just a thought anyway. I would in the least make ebay and Vendio aware of the situation.
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posted on March 21, 2005 08:45:14 AM
Okay crowfarm I am calling you to task. Where did I say you deserved it. This is what I posted.
[i]I agree it is a malicious act,
if it is true but I have no
sympathy for crowfarm as she
brings things on herself[/i].
And that is the truth in my estimation. My words didn't say you deserved it. It says I have no sympathy for you and I don't. The way you post as I see it is obnoxious and hurtful, but only to the people that don't agree with you.
posted on March 21, 2005 09:24:26 AM
Hi Neglus! ...Funny to see you posting over here Just because the address says West Virginia doesnt mean its a legitmate address. But you knew that already, I know If they could find out the ISP location, then they might have somewhere to start. I doubt ebay or vendio is going to put out that effort. It's definitely somebody who knows she posts over here and is familar with the history of her & 12pole fighting.
Libra, I have to agree with you. People should not take their nonsense into the auctions from here. But with crowfarm - she doesnt care what boundaries she crosses with people. So yeah, it is a bit hard to conjure any sympathy about it for her. She disrepects people on every and any level she gets a chance to.
posted on March 21, 2005 09:40:09 AM
maggie asks - Why wouldn't Crow come to this conclusion?
What part of Crowfarm has NO PROOF who did this don't you understand? What part of SLANDERING another person WITHOUT PROOF don't you get?
This is the third or fourth time we've been through this.....cf making accusations about her auctions being messed with.
What part of being warned that he/she shouldn't have used her ebay userid to post all her insults to everyone, don't you or CF understand?
And just as some like you maggie are sooooo concerned about CF's auctions being 'bothered'....guess what....other people have established reputations as business people too and I really doubt they'd like THEIR auction business being ACCUSED of wrong doing...when there IS NO PROOF.
So....I'll repeat myself again. Yes, I see a malicious act alright. One BY crowfarm. Accusing twelve WITHOUT ANY PROOF IT'S TWELVE.
That's the only thing there's ANY PROOF OF.....crowfarm's UNPROVEN ACCUSATION.
I hope someone makes contact with twelve to let him know he's being slandered like this WITHOUT PROOF.
Messing with the auctions is serious business. Bidding on auctions IS NOT. But we REALLY don't know if this is just another FIGMENT of crowfarms imagination or not. This is how many times now? Find a new way to get attention UNTIL you can PROVE what you suspect....BEFORE you [b]slander another seller.
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So....let's SEE YOUR PROOF, crowfarm that you've accused the correct person.
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posted on March 21, 2005 10:37:27 AMYou will choose to read and comprehend only what serves your purpose as usual Linda.
Your viciousness and contempt for Crow, surpasses your means to think intelligently.[/b]
You would rather blame the victim and refuse to accept facts.. her auctions were messed with..anyone with half a brain can go to the ebay site and see that plainly.
You also refuse to listen to the majority of the posters here who agree that it is probably not Twelve.. although he has certainly made threats in the past for all of us to read..
No miss holier than thou, you who would never slander another here on the RT...bullsh!t..you continue daily to name call and belittle several of the posters here who happen to disagree with your politics... so remember the saying about those in glass houses?
And may I ask... who elected LindaK to be board monitor.. to say what anyone can or cannot post or whether to use their ebay id or not.. or how to vote or if they have the right to post if they don't happen to live in the US...and so on and so on and so on.
You, and a few others that Crow has made look ridiculous time and time again....with her straight forward logic have only one defense.. that is to criticize her, call her ugly names and take the side of some of the nastiest posters here just because they disagree with Crow.. Your frustration with being unable to win an argument with Crow.. turns to hatred and it shows in your posts.
I too hope Twelve makes contact with someone too.. to refute any allegations of this evil act.. but he should not feel anger toward the one person he has continued to threaten and persue... rather he should feel the anger toward the coward who used his id to do the nasty deed.
Now.. I know that your head is to thick and your hatred to strong for you to ever accept any thing I have written.. I don't care..I have met ignorance like this many times in my life.
By the way,do you think your bold lettering and scattering of smilies makes what you say sound more valid...well it doesn't..
posted on March 21, 2005 11:38:08 AM
Well, it looks like twelvepole666 won 5 of crowfarm's auctions.....If the auctions are paid and shipped, with no problems, there is really no problem. They looked as though they were all pretty decent too. I'd be happy with the sales....
I also do not believe it is 12. He came right out and said how he felt...no beating around the bush or "nice-ing" it up. Whoever this is doesn't appear to have interfered with anything, unless they don't pay.
Maybe this is 12's "kinder, gentler" alter-ego making it up to crowfarm by purchasing several items...looks to be about $250.00...I'd say "WOOOO-HOOO"!
posted on March 21, 2005 11:54:50 AM
maggie - This is all about CROW'S UNPROVEN accusation against twelve. Not you. It's been YOUR choice to step in and defend her/him as you always do.
You will choose to read and comprehend only what serves your purpose as usual Linda.
What I've read is ANOTHER accusation from crow...that he/she hasn't proved. What 'serves my purpose' is to see crowfarm STOP accusing people of doing things which she can't/doesn't prove. She's gotten hysterical 3-4 times now.
Your viciousness and contempt for Crow, surpasses your means to think intelligently.
ROFLMHO at that statement. Who shows constant viciousness and contempt? Crow...hands down...especially to me.
[/i]You would rather blame the victim and refuse to accept facts[/i]..
Victim??? FACTS??? I've only seen accusations....no facts. Someone using that userid bid on crowfarms auctions? Is that not allowed now? Does that automatically give her/him the right to slander another seller? I don't see other sellers agreeing that they wouldn't mind being accused of doing this when [b]there is no proof.
What I see is crowfarm has blamed another 'victim'....twelve. How convenient he's not here to defend himself.
her auctions were messed with..anyone with half a brain can go to the ebay site and see that plainly.
And anyone with 1/2 a brain would know that doesn't PROVE twelve was the one.
You also refuse to listen to the majority of the posters here who agree that it is probably not Twelve..
says who? You? I have read their comments. Doesn't change what crowfarm said...he/she hasn't YET told us if he/she has PROOF it's twelve. Nor apologized if it wasn't.
although he has certainly made threats in the past for all of us to read..
LOL....oh yes...and your poor crowfarm did absolutely NOTHING to cause the 'words' between them. Everyone can get a good laugh at that one. You totally ignore cf's part in anything...it's always everybody elses fault...never your precious cf.
No miss holier than thou, you who would never slander another here on the RT
I haven't slandered anyone....but crowfarm has. I've said crow needs to put up/prove his/her accusations against twelve.
I sure don't understand what you don't get about crowfarms accusations being JUST as serious as whomever 'bid' on crow's auctions. But it is...maybe more so. Many make their living selling through Vendio and on ebay. CF's statements start getting passed around like gossip and people can experience a loss in their business. That's grounds for a lawsuit....don't kid yourself.
you continue daily to name call and belittle several of the posters here who happen to disagree with your politics...
I just don't see things the same way you do maggie. But then you and crow have always had a 'different/weird' way of viewing things, imo. I don't belittle nor call names anyone who hasn't constantly done so to me. I get tired of the abuse...and I give bad just a tad of what I get from them. My choice. When you start complaining about crowfarms way of talking to posters here...you're believability might just hold more weight. Until then...
so remember the saying about those in glass houses?
I call them as I see them....you, on the other hand, refuse to acknowledge any of the nastiness many have endured here from your crow.
And may I ask... who elected LindaK to be board monitor..
I'm not board monitor....I'm entitled to post here just as anyone is.
[i]to say what anyone can or cannot post or whether to use their ebay id or not[i]..
Never told anyone the above ^^^^. As far as ebayids....if anyone wants to they can. My point in a previous 'someones tampering with my auction thread by cf', I said one would think that after the FIRST time this happened....the accusor MIGHT just get a clue and change their ID. They don't want to? I have no problem with them being stupid...and going thought this 'time and time again.
or how to vote or if they have the right to post if they don't happen to live in the US...and so on and so on and so on.
Oh...so what you're saying is that I should ever post my opinion. ALL of your above statements are false. Never happened. It's your 1/2 brain working overtime.
You, and a few others that Crow has made look ridiculous time and time again....
I ALWAYS get SUCH a kick out of that when you and crow repeat it over and over. I think CROW makes her/himself look ridiculour time and time again...we have nothing to do with that. I have NEVER ONCE felt he/she made me look that way. Not once.
with her straight forward logic have only one defense..that is to criticize her, call her ugly names and take the side of some of the nastiest posters here just because they disagree with Crow..
Boy....you really can't see past your own nose, can you. It's not her politics posters have problems with...it's her delivery....her inability to have civil discussions...to not be hateful and nasty to everyone she doesn't like. You obviously are TOTALLY missing her lies, ugly names, etc...all of her actions. You don't see she's the one harrassing others. That's your problem, maggie. Others can and DO see her actions.
Your frustration with being unable to win an argument with Crow..
Again, I hardly EVER answer crow....she just follows me round harassing me constantly. So how in the world you equate that with losing arguments is nothing but laughable.
turns to hatred and it shows in your posts. But of course, according to you...crow has NEVER been that way with other posters....just me. Yea..right.
I too hope Twelve makes contact with someone too..to refute any allegations of this evil act..
To refute? I don't think so sweetie. The ACCUSOR should show proof of their claim. Otherwise, CF can just merrily continue accusing everyone and they'd have to prove they didn't do it. Just how does one do that?
crowfarm can't go on and on making slanderous statements about other sellers without proving it. I doubt other sellers would disagree.
but he should not feel anger toward the one person he has continued to threaten and persue
He shouldn't huh? This gets funnier and funnier the further you go. Now you're telling someone ELSE how they should feel? While accusing me of telling them how they should vote?
... rather he should feel the anger toward the coward who used his id to do the nasty deed.
Yes, like I've said before....anger at the one who's accusing him with NO PROOF. And so far, maggie, it's only crowfarm's word it was twelve. And he/she hasn't said one word that her/his first accusation MIGHT NOT BE TRUE.
Now..I know that your head is to thick and your hatred to strong for you to ever accept any thing I have written.. I don't care..I have met ignorance like this many times in my life.
Well....then quit looking in the mirrow at yourself all the time maggie. You're the one who's in total denial of crowfarms actions on these threads for months now. And this continuing 'someone's bothering my auctions' attention getting, unproven statements.
By the way,do you think your bold lettering and scattering of smilies makes what you say sound more valid...well it doesn't.. that's YOUR opinion...and I don't give your opinion much value. You can't even see reality with it come to your crow and his/her actions.
posted on March 21, 2005 12:11:45 PM
Yikes! Linda!...I hope you didnt leave anything out there :P)
Maggie I have to say Linda is right about accusing people. Crowfarm should not have posted twelve pole's name as the perpetrator, without any definitive proof of it. We all know how easy it is to make up an ebay id to reflect anything you want.
Last week it was classic bothering her, before that someone else,this week its 12pole, -whose next?
She jumped the gun and went over the edge, imo. And if her mysterious bidder ultimatly pays up...like twig said, - whats to complain about?
posted on March 21, 2005 12:22:26 PM
dbl - Just a tad too long winded huh?
Imo, she's just trying to change the subject by accusing me on my supposed actions. Like my actions had ANYTHING at all to do with this UNPROVEN accusation from crowfarm.
posted on March 21, 2005 12:28:10 PM
We all know that anyone on the internet can read these threads and probably do. The threads are not for just Vendio users. If you want to post then you have to join Vendio if you want to just read the discussions all you do is click community and it is for the whole world to see.
I bet readers sit back and laugh as some of the threads are jokes and I don't mean laughing jokes.
posted on March 21, 2005 12:40:40 PM
lol, Linda. Well at least no one can accuse you of just a c&P on that one!!
Heres what I think:
This is/was an attempt to get 12pole to post again. A brilliant scheme concocted by those tweetie birds. And I think kraft is involved too, because she misses him the most here. (just kidding, kraft... )
But I think 12pole must be on vacation in Australia with Kiara...hunting down dingos or naked Aborigines or something, because I dont believe he'd let this one pass him by if he could help it
posted on March 21, 2005 12:41:33 PM
LOL Bear! You or Parklane seem to be in line. Get ready!
oh wait. She did just attack yellostone as 'stupid freak' - Maybe he's next on the list. (They like lists - dont they? ummm...whats up with that. Making my list and checkit twice, gonna find out who's naughty or nice. Ah Santa Claus delusions.)
posted on March 21, 2005 12:52:24 PM
I really just cannot believe the real twelvepole would "come out of retirement" and just sabotage some of CF's auctions just out of the blue.
I would much more likely believe it is someone currently active on these boards that doesn't like CF (that should narrow it down, heh-heh) who has decided to play games.
Even if this person actually "pays" for the items, I would expect trouble later. If this were me, I'd probably make quick use of the second-chance offers on all the auctions this person won.
p.s. As another person who uses his eBay ID here to post, this will be my very last post. Goodbye forever!
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posted on March 21, 2005 12:59:03 PM
dbl - You might be right...but I see it differently. I see it as knowing twelve hasn't posted here in a while...so he's an easy target.
On c&p -
Yea....like they've never copied and pasted articles themselves. The ones that scream the loudest are the one's who do the same thing. Only bothers them when I do it, not when they do it. Like I don't see the hypocrisy in that.
I have no doubt if twelve read this accusation he'd be replying alright. I can hear it now. And I'd forgotten that he told both kiara and KD he'd be coming to visit them too.
And while some may think this is a Linda vs CF thing...it's really not.
I asked myself how in the world would I prove cf's statements to be false if he/she'd accused me of this?
Anyone could register on ebay with a userid of Linda_K, bid on his/her auctions, get my [possibly false] state info..registration info. and then CF could come here an accuse me [or anyone] of stalking her - and threatening to report me/us to the police. Many might think I'd have a 'reason' to do so...considering all the $hit [death wishes, wishes for illness, lies about me being for torturing children, etc] CF has given me.
How would I be able to prove she was lying about me?
That's why I believe the accusor has to be held accountable for their unproven statements. Otherwise their credibility for what they say goes in the toilet...as cf's did with me long ago.
We're all at risk when these accusations are posted about any seller/buyer...because it could just as easily be us that's the next one being accused.
posted on March 21, 2005 01:08:09 PM
Well, Linda. All I can say, is if its not a scheme...it sure has shut her up for a day!
Look your wish has been granted...LOL! LOL!!
(Lets see how long it lasts )
posted on March 21, 2005 01:10:34 PM
Oh replay ...won't you at least consider getting another vendio userid to post in the RT with? I, for one, hope you'll consider doing so.
And I feel a real need to reply to your statement:
I would much more likely believe it is someone currently active on these boards that doesn't like CF (that should narrow it down, heh-heh) who has decided to play games.
Yes, it could be that. BUT it also could have been a 'set up' between two friends who were trying to goad twelve back to the boards. The friend could have opened a new account with this userid and state..knowing full well CF would never bring any reprecussions back on them. A game...a sick game if it wasn't someone who doesn't care for CF.
posted on March 21, 2005 01:33:03 PM
My goodness.. the wind in here is blowing strongly and the smiley faces coming fast and furious.. Some might interpret the feverish enthusiasm and long windiness of your posts as someone in a state of euphoria...LOL....
If you really want people to believe you when you say this isn't about a personal vendetta with Crow.. and instead only you protecting the stellar reputation of your Twelvepole, then may I suggest that you tone the spewing and venting down a notch or two..LOL..because the way you are carrying on..it makes your agenda unclear.
Okay.. all Linda's groupie asskissers.. jump right in now.. you always have needed to form a pack when you go on the attack..LOL
posted on March 21, 2005 01:49:56 PM
Oh.. and I forgot to add...I am anxiously awaiting the identity of the doer of the dastardly deed too...perhaps Crow has handed it over to Vendio or Ebay to get to the bottom of this...I bet the one who did it is a tad nervous right now.. wouldn't you think?
I hope Crow nails his/her ass!
BUT it also could have been a 'set up' between two friends who were trying to goad twelve back to the boards. The friend could have opened a new account with this userid and state..knowing full well CF would never bring any reprecussions back on them. A game...a sick game if it wasn't someone who doesn't care for CF.
Now this nasty insinuation couldn't possibly be coming out of the mouth of the same person who says she never makes snide accusations or slanderous insinuations, now could it!! Gasp...oh my..your hypocrisy is showing again, Linda
posted on March 21, 2005 01:56:43 PM
maggie - wouldn't matter who was being accused. They've all been accusations made by crowfarm....not me. And other than her 'snapping' at KD...the accused have all been people cf doesn't care for. [to put it nicely]
Now...I thought about what dblfugger said...and then after replays post....I found it much more plausable as 'another senario' than that someone HERE did it.
We'll wait to see CF's proof - or hear her apology for accusing someone BEFORE she knew it was him.
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posted on March 21, 2005 02:01:54 PM
Crowfarm is just as guilty as 12 in the way they posted. They both attacked each other. I doubt if it was more 12 than crowfarm, I would bet if it was 50/50.
You seem to use smilies alot also Maggie so please lets leave that alone. There is no more than usual. Linda uses them all the time ever since I came in here to post. It is nothing new for her.
Just because the address says West Virginia doesnt mean its a legitmate address. But you knew that already, I know 
I've only seen accusations....no facts. Someone using that userid bid on crowfarms auctions? Is that not allowed now? Does that automatically give her/him the right to slander another seller? I don't see other sellers agreeing that they wouldn't mind being accused of doing this when [b]there is no proof.
...won't you at least consider getting another vendio userid to post in the RT with? I, for one, hope you'll consider doing so.
then may I suggest that you tone the spewing and venting down a notch or two..LOL..because the way you are carrying on..it makes your agenda unclear.
