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 kraftdinner
 
posted on March 22, 2005 06:40:24 PM
Wrong Crowfarm. I'm not blaming the victim, BUT when the victim says they were raped or assaulted, they better make darn sure they have the right person.



 
 twinsoft
 
posted on March 23, 2005 05:03:35 PM
Twelvepole used to be a pretty regular guy. I don't know what's happened over the last few years but he definitely had some bad kool-aid or something. Too bad.
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 Linda_K
 
posted on March 23, 2005 05:08:59 PM
twinsoft - So does this mean now that you believe the UNPROVEN accusation crowfarm has put out to slander twelve and his ebay/vendio business?


Are you taking the 'word' of someone who has posted ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF of any wrong doing on twelve's part? And won't even admit he/she could have been wrong?


I, for one, certainly hope you don't. Nothing's been proven and crowfarm has lied before...this isn't a first for him/her.




 
 twinsoft
 
posted on March 23, 2005 05:12:45 PM
No, Linda. I have no opinion on that. I am speaking to what I have seen in his posts recently.

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 crowfarm
 
posted on March 23, 2005 05:18:30 PM
And linDUH has certainly reacted quite strongly, vociferously, and often on this subject which shouldn't concern her at all.

She says I want attention and then keeps posting . Very strange behavior .....hmmmm


Wonder why this would bother her so much....very strange since no one accused HER of anything.......defending vigorously someone who doesn't even post here anymore.....or do they?

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on March 23, 2005 05:26:09 PM
twinsoft - Well....you must have missed all the posts by crowfarm then. They BOTH played a part in their posts.


But I feel SO STRONGLY that we cannot allow ANY ebay/vendio user, be they buyer or seller to be constantly accused of wrongdoing...ANYTHING that could possibly hurt their livelyhood/business WITHOUT PROOF TO SUBSTANCIATE THEIR CLAIMS.


And that's exactly what has happened here....AGAIN. We, as board posters used to hold people to their statements...accusations...etc. No longer. Now some think they have the right to post unsubstanciated accusations against others....never prove it....and then just go on their way...never being held accountable for their destructive behavior.


You're DAMN right I feel strongly about this CF. What you've done is WRONG....TOTALLY unprofessional....and imo, unproven slander against another ebay/vendio seller.


You have absolutely NO credibility here, in my book, when you can continue to accuse others of wrong doing....then NEVER prove your accusations.



 
 crowfarm
 
posted on March 23, 2005 05:31:10 PM
Wonder just how YOU'RE so CERTAIN I'm wrong ????


Watch your blood pressure.....mine's fine.




 
 quatermass
 
posted on March 23, 2005 05:32:25 PM
Crowfarm just invites this trouble to happen. Is this the price you pay for your paranoia and for shooting off your mouth? You are so quick to accuse with no proof. Why don't you just shut the hell up.

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on March 23, 2005 05:36:15 PM
Well...crowfarm....as MANY have requested you do....show us your proof or apologize and say you don't know....or that you were wrong.


Not up to doing any of that are you? Your history with me alone, proves you're not up to being honest.


I hope everyone here 'shuns' you UNTIL you either PROVE your accusation or apologize for it in this thread so NO ONE will get the false impression twelve actually did what you've accused him of doing - with NO PROOF.



 
 kiara
 
posted on March 23, 2005 05:49:10 PM
But I feel SO STRONGLY that we cannot allow ANY ebay/vendio user, be they buyer or seller to be constantly accused of wrongdoing...ANYTHING that could possibly hurt their livelyhood/business WITHOUT PROOF TO SUBSTANCIATE THEIR CLAIMS.

And those words are coming from someone who recently was very quick to make snide insinuations about me being 'unprofessional and harassing and investigating others auctions’ when she was wrong and had absolutely no proof whatsoever ........ but now she’s the one demanding proof? That's truly laughable.


 
 twinsoft
 
posted on March 23, 2005 06:30:16 PM
Linda, I don't really know anything about any feud, but from casual reading here, I'd say twelvepole is off his rocker. And that is a pity because I always liked his posts. If I caught only one side of the story, I'm sorry, but please don't fill me in on the details.

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 Linda_K
 
posted on March 23, 2005 07:43:19 PM
kiara - I believe you're becoming more and more delusional. I never said that about you.


And those words are coming from someone who recently was very quick to make snide insinuations about me being 'unprofessional and harassing and investigating others auctions' when she was wrong and had absolutely no proof whatsoever........but now she's the one demanding proof? That's truly laughable.



And I guess I can take your above statement to mean you DON'T think when another person is accusing someone of messing with their auctions...blaming anothe without proof it was even them? That's now okay with you?




Did you wish to address the topic thread, kiara, or is this just another 'pop in and make an attack post' but don't respond to the thread topic?




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 kiara
 
posted on March 23, 2005 08:31:44 PM
Linda_K posted on February 11, 2005 04:40:00 PM
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kiara - I don't owe YOU an explanation for anything. nada....


And I sure haven't sunk to the low depths that you have here many times.


And now what. It appears you might be 'checking into' other posters auctions. I left to wonder if you've checked into crowfarm's yet or do you only harass/investigate the auctions of people who you don't like. how unprofessional of you...if you are doing that.





No need to answer....I have my OWN crystal ball.



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Linda_k, I am addressing the topic. I've never sunk to any low depths here when it comes to another's business, I would never do that. I just find it ironic that you are now demanding proof from crowfarm and saying that we can't allow ANY Vendio/eBay user to be accused of wrongdoing without proof, when you had no problem insinuating I was underhanded.

Let's face it, you really have a double standard according to the suck-up factor here.




 
 Linda_K
 
posted on March 23, 2005 09:54:43 PM
Why not post the WHOLE link kiara? There have been more than one - at least two different posters HAD accused you of 'checking into' their auctions. And I WASN'T one of them.


edited to add: my asking YOU to address those charges also said:

how unprofessional of you...if you are doing that.


crowfarm made a statement of FACT....no allowance for 'I think he might have been' 'I'm worried it could have been'....no an out-and-out accusation.


NOT the same at all.



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 kiara
 
posted on March 23, 2005 10:25:01 PM
ONE poster accused me and others of checking out her auctions because of that stupid lamp thread a year ago and then she came back under another ID and you were all too eager to jump right on it with your insinuations.

Threats of auction interference have been going on for awhile now and it's most likely one reason fewer are posting here. Who needs the BS?

 
 dblfugger9
 
posted on March 24, 2005 12:03:46 AM
because of that stupid lamp thread a year ago ...

- Had nothing to do with a lamp thread. Unlike crowfarm, I CAN prove somebody with the same isp address from canada - when I dont sell internationally - is stalking my auctions over and over.

What you do, and everybody knows it, is ride people's tail in stealth, and go around stealing intellectual property from them. You're an annoying nosy little mouse, - so obsessed with yourself, that you cant stop thinking about what happened with you and another poster a YEAR AGO. - Exactly what month did that auction run in, again?

Your brain is stuck in park, girl. You need to get yourself some meds or something.

and you were all too eager to jump right on it with your insinuations.

Oh poor poor kiara! Well, the cat's out of the bag. This is YOU who has the wrong frigin sense of joy and happiness : "When the profe flammed Linda, I was so overjoyed, I went back and read it again and again,...thats how low I am" (Go find the thread yourself)

... and then she came back as another ID

Oh for shame!! This infuriates the chief troll patrol officer here. On the hunt to track em down. So does Vendio pay you for this? And do you have the benefit of having people's personal information they enter to use this site? Because if so, I might just need to write an email to Vendio about that. And if somebody changes their user id to seperate from auctions as has been suggested over and over here to crowfart...kiara and friends doesnt like it! Oh My! They're trying to get over on her! Anything anybody does, is about Ms. "I've got all the trolls in my pocket & I know who they are" chief shi*bag keeper on this board. Nobody owes you nothing to post here kiara - why dont go try to take a good sh* and get all that crap you keep out of you? Oh, and here's another great quote from the so-injured one among us: ..."and I admit I've been sneaky"...

You know what? You need to stop trying to position yourself with posters that want NOTHING to do with you. Your same tired laments for attention are nothing but old. Go hunt down yourself some orphan kids - they're probably the only ones you could ever try to control.



[ edited by dblfugger9 on Mar 24, 2005 12:50 AM ]
 
 dblfugger9
 
posted on March 24, 2005 01:17:37 AM
And while I am at it, why dont you go post an opinion to the Schiavo thread and try thinking about something or somebody other than your own self for a change?


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 kiara
 
posted on March 24, 2005 01:38:07 AM
dblfugger9, go ahead and write to Vendio and go to ebay and investigate all you want but you won't be able to come up with anything that I’ve done because it doesn't exist.

Do you really think I'd be foolish enough to jeopardize my reputation here and on ebay after all these years because of a pissing match on a chat board? You didn’t have any credence with all your last attempts to start trouble but if your goal is to keep lying and making a fool of yourself, go for it.

Whoever twelvepole666 is, I agree with what Cheryl and Maggie said. I don’t think crowfarm deserved this just because someone doesn't like her posting here.

And I really don’t think it’s worth the BS for anyone to stick around if they have to worry about their business or constantly defend themself against nasty insinuations because of the immaturity of others.

 
 dblfugger9
 
posted on March 24, 2005 01:59:48 AM
with all your last attempts to start trouble...

My attempts? Am I over in the EO board talking to Ms. Lucy about you? Am I on this board telling people they should be working on their auctions - to which the poster has to reply "and how do you know what I am doing with my auctions?" & now this? NO! I am not. You got alot of nerve.
>>You're the attempter and youre a bluffer. You better be glad I dont care to find out who connects from that ISP address. It's too bad for you, because youre too much of a peasant for me to even care to spend time with it.

Everything you wrote you need to apply it to yourself.

You never have anything to add to these boards EXCEPT getting into a pissing match with people (and all about yourself of course and their personal business.)

That sure speaks volumes about your "credence" and reputation, alright.


Now go take your sh* or piss with somebody else. YOU and your all about you statments about yourself frign bore me, too - or go it sell on ebay or something.

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 kraftdinner
 
posted on March 24, 2005 12:18:13 PM
Kiara, nobody doubts someone screwed around with Crowfarm's auction. With a name like Twelvepole666 you would naturally assume it's Twelve, BUT after the accusation was made, where's the follow-up with the facts? Is it Twelve? Were the police involved? Is it being looked into? Why the silence if it's such a major deal??

Don't forget Kiara and Cheryl - Crowfarm also accused me and Classic of screwing with her auctions, so I hope you can understand why I'm not buying it.

Sorry Double but I can't agree with you about Kiara... but that's another story.

 
 MAH645
 
posted on March 24, 2005 04:10:31 PM
I hope crowfarm lets us know if she gets this problem taken care of. What does E-Bay do if someone messes with your auctions like that? Better question,what does a Seller do when that happens to you?
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 profe51
 
posted on March 24, 2005 05:43:31 PM
what does a Seller do when that happens to you?

You mean when somebody bids on your auction? I'd bet most sellers would be pleased. So far, that's all that I see that happened. Sure, there's no doubt it was someone from here, masquerading as 12, but if they pay up, so effing what? There's no love lost between 12 and myself, so please don't take this as a defense of him. I'll give him credit enough to figure that if he really wanted to dick around with somebody on Ebay, he'd do it anonymously...unless of course he's completely lost it, which isn't beyond imagining. The Sybil idea is intriguing too, especially now with Crowfarm's silence.
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 crowfarm
 
posted on March 24, 2005 06:14:55 PM
Profe says, ""You mean when somebody bids on your auction? I'd bet most sellers would be pleased. So far, that's all that I see that happened""



Well, here's what you appear to be blind to.


A poster "twelve" who has a habit of wishing posters , dead, designing their coffins, and threatening to show up for a face to face who seems to have a special problem with me.

Then I get five auctions bid on by "someone" with a twelve and 666 in their ID.


IT registered on March 13th, a week before the auctions ended,
ONLY bid on MY auctions,
has not replied to email,
has NOt bid on any other seller's auctions.


And to the jackasses who think it's my fault for using my seller ID, well, most of you think no one would ever stoop so low...at least that's what you said. Well, thanks for admitting that ONE of you IS that low.


 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on March 24, 2005 07:05:57 PM
Crowfarm, I don't think you're at fault for using your seller name, I think you're at fault for thinking you can come to the RT and accuse people of being liars, nazis, scumbags, etc., yet can't imagine one of them screwing with your auctions. Which is it? That doesn't make sense to me.

 
 profe51
 
posted on March 24, 2005 07:21:22 PM
Crow, I'm not blind to any of that. I've had my set-to's with him quite often too, althought not as personally mean as yours have been.

Since the bidder's not answering your emails, why haven't you pulled personal contact information? And, if you have, why haven't you posted it here? We'd love to know who did this.

I'm not defending anybody here. I think it's a chickenshit thing to do to anyone. You started this thread. I think you ought to finish it with the whole story.
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 kiara
 
posted on March 24, 2005 07:49:30 PM
Hi Kraft

I understand what you’re saying but still think it’s crazy that some seem to have difficulty separating a chat board from real life, no matter what the comments are, and that they have to take that next step.

When I signed up here years ago I used an ebay ID because I was naive enough to believe that I'd be dealing with other professional adults. Though there was no RT in those days and I mostly lurked, I found out the mentality of some that came to the boards and I realized if I was ever going to post here that it was best to change my ID.

I don't naturally assume it could be twelve, it could even be a lurker.

I guess the moral of this story is that if you post with your real ID never say anything that offends or contradicts the beliefs of another, take all the abuse thrown at you and suck up to everyone in case someone goes over the deep end.


 
 crowfarm
 
posted on March 25, 2005 12:30:53 AM
Thank you , Kiara, for a whole lotta sanity and common sense.
I guess Kraft still believes in the theory that if a bank gets robbed it deserves it because it kept money there!

Profe, If I pull their info then they get mine. No Way! You don't give psychos your address.
(And people who get upset by being called a name in a chat room are psychos. I have been called MANY names in here and never once cared, or thought of "retaliating".)



They either have to pay by Paypal or send the payment to an old PO Box I have in another town that I got a few years ago when our neighborhood was having problems with mail theft. But I don't really expect to see any payment.

 
 profe51
 
posted on March 25, 2005 04:40:38 AM
Oops, I forgot about the reciprocal contact info thing. You're right, it'd be pretty foolish to give yourself away.
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 yellowstone
 
posted on March 25, 2005 06:38:51 AM
Will you be exchanging feedback with the psycho? We can't wait to see what you're going to say to him.


 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on March 25, 2005 10:43:14 AM
No Crowfarm, I only believe if the bank gets robbed, they accuse the correct robber of the crime, as mentioned 10 times previously.

Tell you what, I'll go get the contact info and let you know what it is so we can figure out just who's doing this. I'll be back.

 
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