posted on September 5, 2000 03:16:52 PM
hey! i just made an amazing discovery! i knew how to make smilies with the brackets, but on my original post, i made an emoticon smiley (colon, dash, and right parenthesis). when my post came up on aw, it had a regular yellow smiley.
posted on September 5, 2000 03:31:11 PM
RB after your first message I almost sent it right out to the postal inspector but I have decided to wait a little longer and see if I get any response from the seller. Maybe she really didn't know, although I find that hard to fathom.
Oh Gawd ... not the Marines!!!
Shosh ... look out! You're probably closer than I am to this bear hunting rifle carrier>>
LOL Yea he is a little nuts but I love him. My cat however sleeps with one eye open (only kidding)
As an after thought, and this will make me even more unpopular, perhaps the USPS should start charging users for these supplies>>
I am sure that is on their minds and one of the reason it erks me when I get packages like that because I DON'T want to have to pay for the packages or the rates to increase. However I don't know if just turning one seller in will change that but if nothing is done then there is a higher chance that I will be paying higher rates or paying for the boxes. I would hate that.
without contacting the seller first, but guess you wouldn't want to be identified would you? ASK ! Better safe, than sorry! >>
No I am not afriad of being identified. If I was do you think I would use my first name here instead I would hide behind some screen name. Think about it. My name and address would be sent along with the complaint for the seller to see. She already knows who I am and so far has chosen not to respond to e-mail.
You all did bring up a a good points about the postal worker getting in trouble. A friend of mine stopped by tonight that works for the post office to check her e-mail (her computer is down) I asked her if the postal worked could get in trouble (something I never thought of) and showed her the package and she said no not with the brown paper around the box. The most they would do if they could even trace what window clerk it was would be to tell them to keep a sharper look out.
Usually little things like this aren't an issue with me and I usually do let it roll. Saving my energy for the bigger issues. I guess this is just one to many times, maybe it is because I am pmsing, maybe I am tired of paying high shipping charges and then having things like this happen and I want to believe she didn't know, but that is hard to believe.
You do realize he or she could do jail time even if they did not know this was wrong or not? >>
I doubt very much that they will do jail time. What they usually do when they persue it from what I understand it require the person who sent it pay the difference in the rate and give them a warning. If they have done it before and were issued a warning then they give them a fine.
BTW for all to know this in not a re-used box that was already checked for it was a new box.
Anyway You all have good points and I will see if the sellers says anything but I don't think they will respond. If not I will follow through and leave to the postal inspector to deal with as she said she would.
Thanks for your input really.
Arlington Ridge in DC on the USMC 225th birthday 11/10? Trying to get as many active and veteran Marines to show up at the Iwo Jima memorial as we can, just to celebrate and thank those folks who were NOT weenies, no matter how great the cost. >>>
I don't know anything about it. Rocky and I don't talk about it. He has his own internal war and I am sure you know what I mean. I have seen it in so many vets. He does have his own way of honoring the dead and his buddies that died and I just leave it at that. He is still in service although not active duty, but once and awhile is called. Anyway, that would be in hunting season so even if things weren't they way they were he would never give up a minute of hunting. When you are down there if you go to the Wall do me a favor and say a little thank you for me it has been a few years since I have been down.
posted on September 5, 2000 03:32:44 PM
Crystalline_Sliver - I am not sure what you mean, and how you mean it, but I told the story to demonstrate two things.
First, this woman mistakenly thought I would look the other way and allow her to steal, which relates to this seller thinking that his/her buyers will look the other way. She made a bad bet on this day. Chance she took.
The other correlation which is more subtle but was on my mind is that when this woman used my my child (my BABY for that matter) to steal from a store, I FELT dirtied and I was gonna stay that way. I am betting that this feeling is also relevent in this case.
I do not get a kick out of turning people in and do not want to be a store detective as a career. Further I beleive that you are incorrect in thinking I would be good at it because I am so markedly disinterested in almost everyone and their affairs.
OTOH if you are stealing and you get caught - so what?
And if you use my child?
Forget about it.
You're goin' down.
posted on September 5, 2000 03:46:02 PM
Traceyg..you say you "think" this seller knows so you aren't going to do the decent thing and ask first. Instead you assume they know so you can turn them in with an easy conscience. How sad!!
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Before you go assuming let make one thing clear. I say I think she knows because I haven't heard from her yet. It seems that e-mails simply get lost when dealing with things like this just as the first notice does to deadbeat buyers (BTW no I don't get a lot of them maybe 20 in thousands of sales keeping my fingers crossed) I do believe though that you have to be pretty slow and there are people out there that are slower then the rest not to know. However all transcations do far tell me this seller is a pretty sharp cookie. As someone else stated here it just is common sense. From what I know these were always the rules they just clarified them a few months ago for people and started to crack down on people mis-using the boxes. You assuming is Sad, but I am tired today and my message her may not be clear. Hmm but you do give a good point about reading these boards I will invite her over into this thread and we can see what happens from there.
posted on September 5, 2000 03:46:35 PM
traceyg: Is your initial post in this thread the real deal? You would actually turn someone in for such a minor offense without even discussing the matter with them? Please, say it ain't so.
posted on September 5, 2000 03:51:02 PM
bear hunting...did I read that right?) >>
Yeap sadly and gators wild boar etc. . . I don't know I think it has something to do with all the time he spent in the jungles. (I myself am an animal activist makes for some interesting moments, trust me)
And no I am not kidding and I know there are bigger issues very well. I lobbied in Washington and Harrisburg for years for childrens rights before I burnt out and I know compared to that this is nothing. For some reason this as little as it is just ticks me off because these will be the same people complaining when they prices go up, but they will find away around it and I will be paying the hire prices.
posted on September 5, 2000 03:57:47 PMOf course, you have NEVER broken a law ... right?? Never gone through a red light, never sampled a peanut or cherry at the grocery store, etc
Uh, no, I haven't knowingly broken any laws. I even wait at stoplights in the middle of the night. I don't fudge my tax records. I did cheat on an exam question in college -so I turned myself in and asked that I receive no points for that answer. I've collared vandals and dragged them back to the property they damaged and made them clean up their mess. I've called the cops and even provided my name when I heard a neighbor beating his partner. I sleep really well at night, and I don't spend my life going around worrying if people "like" me. Not blowing my own horn here - just showing that you can actually spend your life doing what you honestly think is right, rather than what's expedient. Period.
posted on September 5, 2000 03:59:22 PM
Is your initial post in this thread the real deal? >>
No I didn't mention in my first post the e-mail because I haven't heard from the seller and I don't think I am going to. However, I thought after that I clarified to make it clear as I didn't in my first post. I would not turn in a seller with an e-mail first, but how many times should I e-mail them and how long to wait. . . ? and even though I would not turn one in with out first telling them is it really my responsabilty to make sure they know they rules. Yes if I want to be a fair person, but I really think they know the rules. I do believe they are just ignoring the matter which ticks me off more.
posted on September 5, 2000 04:09:29 PM
Traceyg..my "how sad" wasn't an assumption..it was my opinion. I still hold it.
Just email the seller and explain, in a pleasant and nonjudgemental way what the rules are. Don't worry about getting a reply..it's not neccessary.
I consider myself an honest person who obeys the rules...but I would not feel good if I did something as petty as turn someone in for misusing a postal box.
posted on September 5, 2000 04:14:46 PMI do believe they are just ignoring the matter which ticks me off more.
I really think you should wait for a reply to your email before doing anything. Maybe he is on vacation. Maybe his email server is having problems. Maybe... Who knows? Maybe they really are ignoring you. But until you know for sure, why rush to judgement?
Sellers complain about bidders who rush to judgement when the stakes aren't nearly so high. You can do as you please in the matter. But if it were me, I would wait at least a couple of weeks for a reply, just to give the other party the benefit of the doubt. Or you could do as I heard someone say in Basic Training: Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out! Of course, your time is valuable, as is mine. Maybe you should just go ahead and pull the switch now. After all, he must be guiltly of something, right?
posted on September 5, 2000 04:20:18 PM
One of the things I noticed was mention of costs going up. While I'm not condoning the misuse of priority boxes, keep in mind that the seller may be able to keep their prices down by using free materials vs. buying them.
BTW, I used to use priority boxes for non-priority shipments by turning them inside-out. The last time I did this, the postal clerk accepted my package but informed me that it was not allowed. So I stopped. But at the same time, they also let me know that if I wrapped a priority box in brown paper, there is no way they would know. (I didn't ask -- this info was offered).
Per my buyer's opinions I am an excellent seller. I consider myself fairly informed. But if the clerk hadn't notified me that I was properly misuing the boxes, I would have continued misuing them. I would have hated to have been "turned in" vs. someone kindly letting me know the correct way to use them.
posted on September 5, 2000 04:25:58 PM
I will tell you one thing.....I didn't know until reading this thread that you couldn't cover a priority box with brown paper and reuse it. I do of course know NOW that you can't so I'll be sure not to ever do it. I cannot in my wildest dreams imagine ratting on somebody for this (especially if they didn't know it was wrong in the first place)!!
posted on September 5, 2000 04:32:19 PM
Traceyg,
You did write to this seller about this?
I know that alot of posters here, myself included, would be upset if they received a neg fb without been given notice first, right?
IMHO, writing to them and telling him/her what you told us, was the right thing to do. I'd still wait for a response before doing anything drastic, though.
posted on September 5, 2000 04:35:21 PM
As the saying goes:
"all that is required for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing"
Yes, report him to the Post Office AND inform the individual that you have inform the Post Office of his offense. If this is his first offense, the Post Office will probably do nothing. However, if this is a constant complaint.....
As for all you people who say it is only a little thing....
Major violent crime was reduced in areas where small things were reported and ticketed, traffic violations, parking violations, etc... It demonstrated the the criminal element that SOMEONE cared enough about their neighborhood and was watching. So they moved on to neighborhoods where people like you live.
posted on September 5, 2000 05:10:26 PM
Whew! It's getting really thick in here! I'm gonna have to find and polish up my Halo if I want to keep up with all you good guys and gals.
Hope you don't list or sell anything on Sundays ...
posted on September 5, 2000 05:31:15 PM
I didn't see any indication in the opening post whether it was a new or used priority box. If it was used, are you sure the post office minds reusing it even if not for priority mail? I think it's better to reuse it for something than to toss after one use and add to the landfill.
If it was new, there is a chance that the seller didn't know. Just because it's wrapped in paper, doesn't mean the seller knew, maybe she/he didn't want to ship priority.
While I know ignorance of the law is no excuse but prior to stamping the inside of the boxes, the post office did not do a very good job IMO of letting people know the boxes were for priority only. Whether you could or couldn't turn it inside out depended on which window clerk you talked to on a particular day. I would assume the person didn't know, write them a nice email and let them know it is no longer acceptable to use a new box for any class of mail other than priority, and then forget about it. If it was a used box, I wouldn't even email them.
posted on September 5, 2000 05:32:17 PM
Tracey,
You titled this thread "Turning in another seller" implying that you are also a seller.
Just curious - is this seller a competitor of yours?
posted on September 5, 2000 05:42:28 PM
ENTERTAINMENT NEWS FLASH!!!
Michael Moriarty, star of the hit television series "Law & Order" and possible next Prime Minister of Canada, has just signed a deal with the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation to reprise his character from the hit 1998 CBC movie "Major Crime". The title of this new 4 hour mini-series has not yet been announced, however "Major Crime 2" seems to be in the running.
The plot is sketchy at the moment, but industry insiders have hinted that the major thread will involve a 'Redball' type investigation into the illegal use of USPS priority mail cardboard boxes.
Morarity, during a recent interview on ET said" "This type of major crime cannot be tolerated, and the CBC feels they have an obligation to make the public aware of this growing problem."
The movie is being funded by the CBC using funds diverted from their "Just Say No" drug awareness program, and will be filmed in Toronto and surrounding areas. It is being planned for a Spring, 2001 release.
The cast has not been announced, although talks have been held with the Toronto and Buffalo police departments. "The movie will involve a cast of thousands", says Moriarty, "to eradicate this world threat once and for all."
posted on September 5, 2000 05:43:54 PM
Did this seller charge you a "handling fee"? I bet not because HE SAVED YOU MONEY by turning this box inside out and not go 'DUMPSTER JUMPING" for one. Go ahead and turn him him and everyone who buys from me and him from now on will charged for a box! This is riduclulous!
posted on September 5, 2000 06:31:14 PM
I have never used a priority box for anything but priority mail. I did not know you could not use them for other things. However, turning someone in to the postal authority well. Just the thought of it turns my stomach...What a sad person you must be.....
uh huh. that's what i thought! 
