posted on April 24, 2005 08:45:55 PM newThat's divided by two different areas Kiara. The eBay outlook and this round table. You can be 2 posters if you like I honestly don't care. You pick how many you want to be then tell profe and he can add that to the total. How does that sound...
HUH??
I'm the same poster here as on the Outlook. I don't use two IDs like some did. I can double my posts under this ID..... I don't need to start a new one to do that.
Go ahead and believe what you want I honestly don't care. If you think that about republicans then go ahead.
posted on April 24, 2005 09:03:50 PM new
::Sorry fenix I thought I had put the website address on it and plum forgot. I had it saved and I had to answer a question from an ebay member and wiped out the webpage address.::
I was not questioning the existance of the quote Libra... I just thought it was humorous and a little ironic considering that I was going make a comment earlier about the similarities between these "Anti-religion" tags that seem to be the craze lately and the red scare of the 50's.
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posted on April 25, 2005 04:19:05 AM new
I remember my mom used to watch the Mccarthy hearings everyday on tv when I got home from school.
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posted on April 25, 2005 04:31:10 AM new
You're anti-this, anti-that, un-this, un-that, a traitor. Wow, the Right's vocabularly, if not colorful and amusing, sure doesn't stray from its norm.
He went to church every Sunday and made it known to the world. He took Communion when he was told he shouldn't.
A rule created and enforced by man for his stand on a woman's right to choose. Or, did God talk to the Pope and priests personally like Bush claims He spoke to him and tell him Kerry shouldn't be allowed to take communion? And this affected your personal life how?? This isn't Rome, where the church and it's stringent rules have a noose-hold on people. Fortunately, there are still people in this country with minds of their own. Or, is it your contention that if you don't follow the church's rules to the letter you're anti-religion? And why is it those of you to the right love the words "anti" and "traitor"?
BTW, don't be stupid. You know very well that Kerry does not believe in abortion. He believes in a woman's RIGHT TO CHOOSE something the Roman Catholic church doesn't believe. If they had their way, women would stay barefoot, pregnant and bound to the kitchen; subservient property of their husbands with little or no rights at all. What your neighbor does or doesn't do is really none of your business if they aren't breaking the law or harming anyone else. You can believe in a woman's right to choose or not, but you have no right to force your beliefs on anyone else. That is, unless God has personally appointed you his watchdog.
As for Frist, he'll dig his own grave. The nation's opinion on the House's and Bush's involvement in the Shiavo case says it all. The IRS, like a lion seeking its prey, will go after a poor American for back taxes with zeal. However, they continue to allow these churches to violate the 501(c)(3) tax laws that pertain to political involvement with no consequence at all. If they want to get their feet into the political game, they should be paying taxes just like the rest of us.
Cheryl
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posted on April 25, 2005 06:29:19 AM new
No kiara I didn't say two ID's read it again. Read it again. Maybe it was to late for you.
That's divided by two different areas Kiara. Where did I say two different ID's. Then I said You can be 2 posters if you like I honestly don't care. Nothing about 2 different ID's.
No Cheryl you have everything all wrong as usual.
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posted on April 25, 2005 06:39:39 AM new
Cheryl, very good point about the Churches tax exempt status. If they want to hold political events they should pay taxes just like the rest of us.
Libra63, what a bunch of BULL ROAR. We never heard you say a good word about Canada its people or its government.
posted on April 25, 2005 07:43:10 AM new
are they still beating the seals to death with baseball bats up there?
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"I lived in Northern Minnesota 150 miles to the Canadian border. I have taken many trips and enjoyed visiting the cities as they are clean and beautiful. Canada does have many pluses."
"What I find is the postage to Canada isn't much different than mailing to the USA. Sometimes it is even the same."
I would suggest in the future that when you ship to Canada or any other country is put the EOA notice from eBay in your package. Now since we all check merchandise yes I do. That should be a must in all packages so when it is opened there is no guessing what the price was paid for the item. I think it probably could be disputed with the customs if you bring that EOA notice to a customs office. Yes your post office is supposed to keep the customs form for 30 days
posted on April 25, 2005 09:36:16 AM newThat's divided by two different areas Kiara. The eBay outlook and this round table. You can be 2 posters if you like I honestly don't care. You pick how many you want to be
I thought all our posts were divided between the Outlook and the RT? I never said anything about being 2 posters and I've always been just one and intend to stay that way.
What happened to seeing us in 2 weeks? Get lonely already?
posted on April 25, 2005 10:29:22 AM new
No I wanted to show everyone that bigpeepa lies before I left. See he blows smoke and someone has to prove him wrong.
What I was referring to Kiara since you post in two different places profe can count you as 2 posters instead of 1 to bring his numbers up. I thought you could figure that out. But then again.............
posted on April 25, 2005 10:34:50 AM new
Since I'm "wrong as usual", Libra, why don't you point out where you think that is? Is it where I accuse the Right of using words like "anti" and "traitor"? Nope, that's not it. You're awfully fond of the word "traitor". We know you fought side-by-side with Kerry during the war so you know this for a fact.
Is it where I said Kerry doesn't believe in abortion? Nope, that's not it. Kerry has said that he's "personally opposed to it, and as a matter of faith he believes that life begins at conception". But, of course, we also know that you have the uncanny ability to read what's really on people's minds.
Is it where I said the Roman Catholic church would prefer their women to be subservient to their men? Notice I said ROMAN. Why else then are women not good enough to serve as priests? Why then did the current and late Pope try to hush-hush the sex scandals? Why is it then that even the Italian government is afraid to defy the Roman Catholic church and many Catholics in this country are called "cafeteria Catholics"? Oh, I forgot, you've spent a number of years in Rome with the Pope and know this to be a falsehood.
Was it where I said "The nation's opinion on the House's and Bush's involvement in the Shiavo case says it all".? Nope, can't be it either. There are multiple nationwide polls on the subject. Look them up, I haven't the time.
Is it when I said, "The IRS, like a lion seeking its prey, will go after a poor American for back taxes with zeal. However, they continue to allow these churches to violate the 501(c)(3) tax laws that pertain to political involvement with no consequence at all. If they want to get their feet into the political game, they should be paying taxes just like the rest of us". Nope, look up the 501(c)(3) tax laws as they pertain to political involvement. "The Internal Revenue Code expressly prohibits churches and other nonprofit organizations from directly endorsing or opposing political candidates." You can scour the IRS web site if you so choose. I haven't the time.
So, tell me, Libra. . .what was it I said that was "wrong as usual"?
posted on April 25, 2005 10:51:46 AM newWhat I was referring to Kiara since you post in two different places profe can count you as 2 posters instead of 1 to bring his numbers up.
Libra63, I think we all post in two different places so you're not making any sense.
Try to lighten up a bit and realize that you aren't always right and everyone else is wrong or you'll end up looking like this lady.
posted on April 25, 2005 12:04:11 PM new"No Cheryl you have everything all wrong as usual."
Yeah, I found that statement a bit odd too, Cheryl. Libra, I honestly don't find any of Cheryl's posts to be wrong or embellished in any way. I'd like to know where you get that from.
And regarding your article about the religious right, just because it states something, doesn't mean it's fact.
"The term is more commonly used by outsiders than members of this group. It also is used to denote political conservatism, rather than religious or theological conservatism (Many in the Religious Right are also religiously conservative, but the latter does not imply the former.)"
LoL! What a goofy statement! We're already talking politics by saying there's a right and left, so why on earth would anyone be talking about theological conservatism when referring to the religious right?? LOL!
And regarding my post about religious hypocrits, the difference is that the so-called religious people have a book of rules they are to follow if they want to be labeled religious. They break these rules daily, yet still have the nerve to call themselves religious and "people of God". Non-religious people don't have a book of rules to follow, so there's nothing to break, therefore they can't be labeled a hypocrit. That's the difference, Libra.
If I had to vote for the person I felt was the closest thing to God, it would be that man who sold cleaning products door-to-door. He had cerebral palsey, lived with his mom, read the Bible daily and never missed a day of work. He had nothing. He asked for nothing in return, and was an incredibly happy soul.
posted on April 25, 2005 01:44:13 PM new
Libra63, more BULL ROAR. You have always criticized Canadians and their programs. You always said the Canadian health care system was inferior BLAH BLAH BLAH. Years ago I had a car accident in Canada got banged up and spent 5 days in a Canadian Hospital.
Guess what old Queen of BULL ROAR, I was given good care and when I walked out of the Canadian Hospital I didn't owe a penny to anyone. Try that under the U.S. health care system. In the U.S. with or without health insurance I would owe thousands.
I am very glad you finally are saying something good about Canada even if you had to get shamed into it.
posted on April 27, 2005 09:02:31 AM newRepublican Frist Is Mingling Religion, Politics
As have democratic leaders when it suits their purpose/political gain.
Anyone who thinks people religious values/morals aren't tied in with their political views/positions are fools. Both sides are.
Libra was correct in saying the dems have done it too. But when the 'cause' the dems find acceptable to use religion in...it's overlooked/accepted by the lefties. It's only when the righties do it that we get to listen to their complaints.
I doubt few would say Martin Luther King didn't mix the two during his civil rights struggle. And then in current times we have both kerry and h. clinton who see the writing on the wall.
And our own dems here even quote Bible verses when it suits them. [Usually to tell the Christians what they're doing wrong ]
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posted on April 27, 2005 11:17:16 AM new
Good to see you back, Linda!
Sure, religious people that have a life in politics probably can't help but bring their beliefs into things. It's the narrow-mindedness when it comes to their way being the right way because God is behind them that gets them into trouble.
posted on April 27, 2005 12:00:12 PM new
Thanks KD -
What I'm saying is that the religious on BOTH sides of the political aisle do exactly the same thing - but the left accepts it better from them than from the religious right - which in current times are being attacked. The Christian religious left also feels they're following the preachings of their religion too.
Basically, all Christians, whether left or righties, believe in the same 'God/Christ/Bible'. So a Christian from the left....and a Christian from the right...aren't being taught [let's say] different 'guidelines/rules to live by'. They don't have different 'rules' to live by in order to consider themselves Christians.
And ALL Christians believe their direction comes from God. ALL, no matter their political views. They ALL pray for guidance from God in the decisions they face. That's part of what being a Christian is all about. We just come up with different interpretations of how God's will can best be accomplished, that's all. Some are just more verbal about it than others...just like we are here.
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