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 Julesy
 
posted on September 7, 2000 09:52:20 PM
Thanks, reddeer!

Yep, they would not give the info out over the phone. All they would give me was a long URL to a non-working website which supposedly contains all the highly secretive info on brokerage fees.



 
 reddeer
 
posted on September 7, 2000 10:01:45 PM
Julesy ..... I hope you're still here, go back & read my second last post. I missed the Belgium part.


[ edited by reddeer on Sep 7, 2000 10:07 PM ]
 
 Julesy
 
posted on September 7, 2000 10:13:57 PM
Noooooooo...please, that can't be right.

According to that chart, I will pay brokerage fees of approx $57 for a non-document parcel weighing less than 1 pound, shipped worldwide express from Belgium to Florida.

reddeer -- If you have an extra moment, could you double-check that for me? I'm hoping I mis-read that thing.

 
 krs
 
posted on September 7, 2000 10:14:11 PM
Julia,
It wasn't a name, it was a hum,hum,hum posting of info from the URL I had already posted, edited away because I'm not positive that the fee rate for canuck imports is the same as for all other countries. As I thought about it I realized that fees for importing from Canada SHOULD be higher.

 
 Julesy
 
posted on September 7, 2000 10:23:03 PM
I know it wasn't a name, Krs. I was just goofing off.

 
 reddeer
 
posted on September 7, 2000 10:28:15 PM
Julesy .... Ouch. It's late & my eyes are getting cross-eyed, but that's what it looks like to me? Or was that the cost of shipping AND brokerage fees? UPS drives me bonkers!

It also says in fine print at the bottom:

"Rates Do Not Include 1.25% Temporary Fuel Surcharge Effective August 7, 2000."

Hmmmmmmm. At least the seller warned you in advance.


[ edited by reddeer on Sep 7, 2000 10:30 PM ]
 
 Julesy
 
posted on September 7, 2000 10:34:23 PM
Thanks for looking, reddeer. Ouch is one way of putting it.

Yeah, they warned me, though they said it would be between 6-10%. I couldn't nail them down to anything more solid. Looks like I will be paying more like 50%.

Wow...



 
 krs
 
posted on September 7, 2000 10:42:48 PM
Neil,
If I'd have known then what I know now, Bud would have gotten his airplane through UPS.

 
 reddeer
 
posted on September 7, 2000 10:54:44 PM
Ken .... Now, now. Deep down I know you luv us Crazy Canucks.

 
 Julesy
 
posted on September 7, 2000 10:56:56 PM
I am stewing over this, and wondering...just how the hell do they get away with this? I feel like I am being shaken-down.

I really want this item, and the amount of money is not the issue, but oh boy, is it ever the principle of the thing. I already paid $20 for shipping, and now they will demand an extra $60 just so I can get my parcel out of their grubby little fists?

My aussie shep has a real penchant for those UPS guys, so I normally crate the #*!@ when they drop stuff off. Not for this delivery though...in fact, I think I will withhold her kibble for a couple days leading up to the delivery.



 
 reddeer
 
posted on September 7, 2000 11:07:32 PM
Julesy ...... I hope I was reading that page wrong. Let us know how it turns out!

And just 'cause I know Ken luvs it when I do this.

UPS SUCKS

 
 krs
 
posted on September 7, 2000 11:20:43 PM
I hope that you noticed that if you specify 3-day select shipping, Neil, your brokerage fee is gone, not charged.

So the problem isn't UPS, it's cheap canucks.

 
 kellyb1
 
posted on September 7, 2000 11:23:13 PM
Ok, back to the original point. Seller shipped to Canada via UPS, Item returned broken, UPS insures and seller claims they don't.

This is what it is all about. Seller has item and bidder's money. In the US we call that FRAUD.

(BTW, I ship USPS for overseas, UPS is much to expensive)

Kelly

Oh, and RR, I loved what you had to say at the beginning, and I wish other people could understand what you had said.

 
 reddeer
 
posted on September 7, 2000 11:33:38 PM
Yes Ken, I knew that. It's called being "thrifty" up here.

 
 krs
 
posted on September 7, 2000 11:38:05 PM
"RR" - "Red Rear"?

 
 reddeer
 
posted on September 7, 2000 11:40:40 PM
Krs - That was my guess?




And just in case abingdoncomputers comes back.

Here's a must read for you.

The title is:

"Why do Americans say shipping in U.S.A. only and them when emailed will ship internationally?"

http://remarq.ebay.com/ebay/transcript.asp?g=discuss%2Eebay%2Einternational%2Dtrading&tn=4064&sh=fc93112484d69c26&idx=-1

Hope that link works!



[ edited by reddeer on Sep 7, 2000 11:42 PM ]
 
 krs
 
posted on September 7, 2000 11:53:48 PM
For the record , I don't ship anything internationally that has to do with any kind of weapon as I'm unable to determine the laws of the receiving nation. So, Neil, you'll see listings of mine for reloading equipment archery bows, knives that say US only.

Also, sometimes with heavy items I'll restrict that simply because of the cost to ship. But I'll discuss those with furners. I sent a Minox enlarger to a guy in Sweden who paid $130. on top of his $400. price, but he made me an offer that I couldn't refuse. It was twice my reserve.

 
 abingdoncomputers
 
posted on September 8, 2000 06:09:07 AM
My only complaint of this seller is that they seem to have taken the "oh well, I tried" route & are now going to ignore any further attempts at getting the insurance $.

They could have straightened this out by now, had they made any "real" attempt at it. IMO

redeer:

Good to finally see a credible post from you. Keep up the good work.





 
 reddeer
 
posted on September 8, 2000 06:42:31 AM
I think I said that on the other thread, more than once? Then again, I'm not sure you were reading everyone's comments before responding?

Hope you enjoyed the link I left for you.

 
 abacaxi
 
posted on September 8, 2000 06:51:36 AM
RedDeer -
If you Canadians are going to IMPORT your eBay purchases into Canada from the USA, the least you could do is learn what it will cost you to import it and not blame the exporter because you failed to study up on Canadian laws, regulations, and the fee structure of the customs broker you told them to use.

When a fee/tax/duty rises up and bites the improter in the but because they failed to do thier homework, why should they get any sympathy?



 
 abingdoncomputers
 
posted on September 8, 2000 06:55:37 AM
redeer:

Yes, I did enjoy the link. Thanks. I bookmarked it and I will refer to it in the future whenever a topic that it has relevance to comes up. But unfortunately, this thread isn't one of them.



 
 reddeer
 
posted on September 8, 2000 06:59:29 AM
abacaxi ..... Seriously, you're joking, right? I've never told *anyone* to ship my item via UPS. Nor did the person who ran into the SNAFU this week.

I'm well aware of what all the Canadian laws/regs are on importing items into Canada, but if a seller decides to use a service outside of the USPS [without letting the customer know in advance], and that service happens to tack on an additional set of fees, the seller is the one who should be doing the homework before sending it out.

It's just smart business IMO.



 
 reddeer
 
posted on September 8, 2000 07:02:43 AM
abingdon

A nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse, eh?

 
 Julesy
 
posted on September 8, 2000 06:36:39 PM
Sorry to dredge this one up...

I found some info relating to that website you provided, reddeer. Those rates are for brokerage fees plus shipping costs (freight). That is why the rates are so astronomical.

I found out today that the shipping I pre-paid with my bid price includes the brokerage fees (thank goddess). So, at this point I only owe customs, which is the 6-10% the seller mentioned.

Funny thing...UPS referred me to this site when I asked about customs:

http://www.dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff2000.asp

It isn't very helpful though, of course.

I know one thing, I will never ship internationally with UPS, and won't buy from another seller who uses them to ship internationally. They just make it too damn difficult to get information.

Jules


my brain is fried.
[ edited by Julesy on Sep 8, 2000 06:38 PM ]
 
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