posted on June 4, 2005 11:35:37 AM new
Tom,
you must know that as soon as someone posts something the shows what a PHONY LIAR BUSH is the "L" sisters just start calling names. Their attempts to change the issue into a name calling match because they can no longer defend their failed leaders is SHAMELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The American people will show the RADICAL RIGHT where to stuff their views in 2006.
posted on June 4, 2005 11:36:42 AM new
one more thing
Classic calls me Shelly because I know I posted it here somewhere that that is my name, and ya'll can call me that if you want. It was around the time a poster had a fit over someone using her first name.
posted on June 4, 2005 12:26:31 PM newWell, let me just say this about THAT:
"I think younger workers—first of all, younger workers have been promised benefits the government—promises that have been promised, benefits that we can't keep. That's just the way it is."—Washington, D.C., May 4, 2005
"I'm going to spend a lot of time on Social Security. I enjoy it. I enjoy taking on the issue. I guess, it's the Mother in me."—Guess Who? Washington D.C., April 14, 2005
posted on June 4, 2005 12:47:58 PM new
Tom's post mentions our young people in regard to SS.
Bush's Social Security reform plan (all Americans)
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52% support reform
40% oppose reform
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Under 30-
66% support reform
23% oppose reform
Contrast Rock the Vote's anti-reform agenda with the refreshing voice of Students for Saving Social Security. It's night and day, and, once again, Rock the Vote demonstrates how it has become an arm of the far-left-wing of the increasingly out-of-the-mainstream Democratic Party, while eschewing its ostensible purpose, giving voice to the political concerns of young people.
Between 30 and 50-
58% support reform
37% oppose reform
Over 65 (who, remember, wouldn't be affected at all by the President's reforms)-
40% support reform
52% oppose reform
Over 70-
38% support reform
55% oppose reform
Still more positive polling on SS.
http://www.willisms.com/archives/2005/05/more_positive_p.html
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
[ edited by Linda_K on Jun 4, 2005 12:51 PM ]
posted on June 4, 2005 01:27:56 PM new "oh.. pee-pee pooh...! The last presidential election was 2004. The next one will be 2008."
Although the presidential election will not be held until 2008, the 2006 elections for governors and congress will reflect how Americans feel about this administration.
posted on June 4, 2005 01:28:13 PM new
kraft, youre such a bleeding heart.. It's a wonder you can stand up straight some days.
And its faux pas
-- NOT faux Paux
Pronounced: foe pa
geeze, and you call yourself a canadian????
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oh yea, Helen. I am sure. He only types "Bush" practically every post he makes here. But perhaps 2006 will be his banner year to toot-toot his peepa for the double L sisters.
(Boy, I was a genius when I came up with this double thing and I didnt even know it. A million and one uses like a miracle slicer or something.... hahahahaha!!)
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[ edited by dblfugger9 on Jun 4, 2005 02:20 PM ]
posted on June 4, 2005 02:09:24 PM new
well faux pas to you too!!
I CAN SEE OLDBIGPEABRAIN LOOKING FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES AT THE POLLING BOOTH IN 2006 AND WONDERING WHERE THE HELL THEY ARE
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Baseball season has started,but they have it all wrong.3 strikes and you're out,4 balls you walk.I can tell you right now a man with 4 balls could not possibly walk
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posted on June 4, 2005 02:25:07 PM new
Double, I'm beginning to think you attended the Captain James T. Kirk School of Shakespearian Acting with the added drama you provide. I've asked you repeatedly what exactly bothers you about my views on cancer and other illnesses but you chose to play airhead again.
And thanks for being as sharp as a pin, although some of us Canadians like to spell french words wrong on purpose. Sorry for my foe-pa.
posted on June 4, 2005 02:54:34 PM new
kraft, youre so willing to stick a poke in and show umbrage at a silly typo comment to bigbeepa, your loyal bone gets royally bent out of shape enough to lie for Cheryl...but you cannot afford to "coddle" somebody with cancer?
I have to wonder whats wrong with you. I'm sorry, kraft, most days youre a hoot on these boards - but after that cancer thread and your implicit ideas about who and what deserves coddling or support, I dont think you've got your principals too right. But I can understand why you would prefer I see it the way you do.
Dumb blondes need to stick together right?
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[ edited by dblfugger9 on Jun 4, 2005 02:57 PM ]
posted on June 4, 2005 03:11:21 PM newBut perhaps 2006 will be his banner year to toot-toot his peepa for the double L sisters.
dbl - I, for one, can think of nothing more revolting than to 'see' him do that. For that reason alone I'll hope the right gains more seats.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on June 4, 2005 03:58:56 PM new
Double, I'll explain it again as best as I can...
Health issues seem to be the one thing that we all pay the most for and are the most irresponsible regarding. There are too many people in North America with diseases, including cancer, that if they had have been more responsible with taking care of their own bodies, they would have less of a chance to get a disease. We all just accept disease as part of our lives and depend on drug companies to give us all magic pills to make us better instead of living healthier and preventing disease. I know that some diseases just happen. I know that cancer can strike babies and healthy people without warning. I'm not talking about those people. I'm talking about people that encourage their own diseases by doing everything in excess, day after day. I have compassion for them but it's hard for me to sympathize with this group of people.
Linda, I think Double's hilarious. I just like to knuckle her back once in a while.
posted on June 4, 2005 04:09:04 PM newLinda, I think Double's hilarious. I just like to knuckle her back once in a while.
I know KD...and I SURE understand what you mean...though for me it's not dbl.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on June 4, 2005 04:19:43 PM new
"""For anyone else that's so misinformed....President Bush was the FIRST president to EVER visit Iraq.""
And nowhere to be seen in Vietnam
Nearthesea, I'm so sorry you have such selective, and quite poor, reading abilities.
You certainly are as sly, devious, and devoid of any morals as linduh when you can only point your finger in one direction.
posted on June 4, 2005 04:26:55 PM new
kraft, has cancer ever touched your life? An extension by way of somebody you knew, maybe even?
These people are in pain! And the mental agony cancer brings to them and their family is beyond any stupid health care issue when its affecting you.
As far as the bring-it-on-yourself type stuff: NOBODY has any guarantee. Athletes and their families get cancer, kraft. Look at that bicyclist Lance = something? Who could you look to be in better physical shape? (Maybe except for the fact his balz hitten a hard seat all the time....I dont know.)
Yes, there are things people will do, and live a lifestyle, that will, make them sick. Were not all gonna be Jack LaLane's, kraft. (and if we were, you'd have a whole nuther issue of how were going put n pay for all these jumpin jelly beans hanging around till they're 113!) Still, it doesnt mean people get written off because they're not. At least in my book. I perceive you feel differently and you have your reasons, so thats okay. Just hope you dont have a heullva karma-kazi fall on your head with that attitude though.
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[ edited by dblfugger9 on Jun 4, 2005 05:04 PM ]
posted on June 4, 2005 04:47:41 PM newAt least Kerry saw combat.
Puh-leeeez! That idiot is so ashamed of his record with the military that he won't authorize it's full disclosure. I saw combat too, it was a great series with Vic Morrow.
Tom, cute calumnious header on the thread. Ralphie is obviously the brains of the operation.
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The Islamofascist fig-puckers are fighting to spread their culture and religion, and to destroy ours
posted on June 4, 2005 05:17:42 PM newThat idiot is so ashamed of his record with the military that he won't authorize it's full disclosure.
Yes, and he PROMISED he would how many months ago? Promises made, promises broken.
The WSJ is keeping a daily log of how long it's been since he promised to fill out the form, and since he said he already did fill it out. Now they're trying to tease him into actually SUBMITTING it.
Maybe he'll release them right before he runs again in '08...so we can rehash all this again.
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on June 4, 2005 05:37:11 PM newThere are too many people in North America with diseases, including cancer, that if they had have been more responsible with taking care of their own bodies, they would have less of a chance to get a disease. I am sorry KD I have to disagree with your statement because there are many cancers that are inherited. There are many cancers in adults because of their childhood and there are many cancers, leukemia being one a disease that children have when they are born. Now I do have to admit the smoking one.
BTW I also addressed the topic.
I think that a topic is addressed usually in the first few posts, but then the name calling starts and that is what turns everything into chaos.
Now to you Cheryl about how many trips Bush has made to Iraq.
04 June, 2003 bush
Nov. 28, 2003 bush Thanksgiving day
December 23, 2004 rumsfield
April 12, 2005 rumsfield
I have no idea why you asked but Bush is not the Defense Secretary. The Military is the responsibility of Rumsfield who is the Defense Secretary who reports to Pres Bush.
NTS (Shelly) you have a great first name. It is a soft sounding name that doesn't like conflict as I can tell by your posts.
posted on June 4, 2005 05:44:52 PM new
I probably should have been more clear with the Bush in Iraq thing. How many times has Bush been to Iraq to address the Iraqi people? That better? Blair took the time to address them. Bush has not. Going over there for a millisecond to deliver a plastic turkey doesn't count.
posted on June 4, 2005 05:49:09 PM new
Second post to the OP.....
Libra63
posted on June 3, 2005 07:04:18 PM
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You post as stupid down here are you do in the EO. You must be akin to bigpeepa...
posted on June 4, 2005 06:04:17 PM new
No the question you asked was how many times has Bush been to Iraq and I told you. Now you are changing your tune. BTW you asked the question 2 times. So when I prove you wrong you change the question. Come on Cheryl you ask the question 1 time, fine maybe a mistake but 2 times the same question, not on your life.
BTW where in Iraq can Blair or Bush go to address the people of Iraq?
posted on June 4, 2005 06:08:05 PM new
Wow Cheryl your post shows the intellect of the Democratic posters. How sad it is when Bush visited the troops and you make fun of it.
posted on June 4, 2005 06:17:46 PM new
LOL @ 'being more clear.'
Like having the facts before you make incorrect comments ? that would be nice for a change.
cheryl doesn't fool me...this President could never do ANYTHING that she'd EVER like ...there's just no pleasing bush-haters.
And she's wrong once again.
Going over there for a millisecond to deliver a plastic turkey doesn't count.
This is a President who put his own life in extreme danger to show his support for our troops. The ONLY one's that matter....not the anti=war left.
President's visit...
His visit marked the first time a U.S. president had traveled to Iraq, and concern for Bush's safety kept the trip cloaked in secrecy. Even some members of the Secret Service were kept in the dark about it.
The whirlwind trip [came amid persistent insurgent attacks on U.S. troops in Iraq -- and less than a week after a cargo plane was struck by a missile and forced to land at the Baghdad airport.
Air Force One, with its lights turned off for security reasons, touched down at Baghdad International Airport at 5:31 p.m. (9:31 a.m. EST) and taxied to a remote corner of the airport.
Bush then went to a hangar where about 600 members of the 1st Armored Division and the 82nd Airborne Division had gathered.
[i]The U.S. forces had been told that L. Paul Bremer, the U.S. civilian administrator in Iraq, and Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, commander of coalition forces, would be attending the dinner.
As Bremer prepared to read a presidential proclamation to the troops, he said, "Let's see if we've got anybody more senior here who can read the president's Thanksgiving speech. Is there anybody back there who's more senior than I[/i]?"
Bush then emerged, misty-eyed and wearing a U.S. Army exercise jacket, to a roaring ovation.
The shocked and elated soldiers jumped to their feet, pumped their fists in the air, roared with delight, and grabbed their cameras to snap photographs.
"I was just looking for a warm meal somewhere," Bush joked, and added: "I can't think of a finer group of folks to have dinner with."
Then the commander-in-chief got serious. "You are defending the American people from danger and we are grateful. You are defeating the terrorists here in Iraq." The insurgents in the country are "testing our will. They hope we will run," he said. But, he said, "we did not charge hundreds of miles into the heart of Iraq, pay a bitter cost of casualties, defeat a ruthless dictator and liberate 25 million people only to retreat before a band of thugs and assassins."
That line prompted a standing ovation.
"We will prevail. We will stay until the job is done," he said.
Afterward, Bush mingled with soldiers and temporarily joined the servers on the food line to dish out sweet potatoes and corn.
"It gave us a little extra oomph," Spc. Talitha Williams, an Arkansas native assigned to the 1st Armored Division. "Maybe we can get through this."
"It felt good," said Spc. Juan Deloera, also with the 1st Armored Division. "It really boosted my morale."
"It helps a lot knowing that the commander in chief himself is going to come out here and make some of the same sacrifices away from his family, away from his home, to show that he is devoted and in the same position that we are," said Pvt. Patrick McFarland of the 1st Armored Division.
"That's where your mind is, on home this time of the year, and you think about your loved ones, your friends and things like that, and then you have the leader of our country come here and share dinner with us. It's actually very special," said Sgt. Robert Dunn, a Dallas native with the 1st Armored Division.
The president also went behind closed doors for two separate meetings with U.S. commanders and four members of the Iraq Governing Council. After being on the ground 2.5 hours, the president left Baghdad around 8 p.m. (noon EST).
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on June 4, 2005 06:19:25 PM new
April 10, 2003, 12:03pm EDT
MR. BUSH AND MR. BLAIR ADDRESS IRAQI PUBLIC
The U.S. president and the British prime minister launched a media campaign in Iraq on Thursday with an address televised across the war-torn nation during which Mr. Bush assured Iraqis that "the government of Iraq and the future of your country will soon belong to you."
The messages from Mr. Bush and Mr. Blair were beamed into Iraq via a new Arabic TV network, produced by the U.S. and UK governments, called Nahwa Al-Hurrieh or "Towards Freedom."
The leaders' messages launched the network, which will be broadcast from a U.S. Air Force plane flying over the country. Programming will come from the U.S. and British military as well as rebroadcasts from independent news outlets in both countries, White House officials said.
Starting Saturday, the coalition also will publish a newspaper in southern Iraq, with an initial circulation of 10,000, according to the White House.
The leaders' statements were a bid to reassure ordinary Iraqis of Anglo-American intentions and hasten the full collapse of Saddam's power structure.
"Saddam Hussein's regime is collapsing and the years of brutality, oppression and fear are coming to an end," Mr. Blair said. "We did not want this war but in refusing to give up his weapons of mass destruction, Saddam gave us no choice but to act. Now that the war has begun, it will be seen through to the end."
"You deserve better than tyranny and corruption and torture chambers ... Your nation will soon be free," President Bush said.
"The nightmare that Saddam Hussein has brought to your nation will soon be over," he added.
The two men recorded their messages two days ago at a summit in Northern Ireland.
Aware of suspicions throughout the Arab world of American and British "imperialist" intentions, the two leaders promised troops would leave Iraq as soon as a new government was set up to replace an interim authority due to take over from the military.
President Bush assured Iraqis that the goals of the coalition forces "are clear and limited."
"Coalition forces will help maintain law and order so that Iraqis can live in security. We will respect your great religious traditions, whose principles of equality and compassion are essential to Iraqi's future. We will help you build a peaceful and representative government that protects the rights of all citizens. And then our military forces will leave," Mr. Bush told the Iraqis.
"Iraq will not be run by Britain or by the United States, or by the United Nations. It will be run by you," Mr. Blair said.
The British leader acknowledged many Iraqis feared a repeat of the aftermath of the 1991 Gulf War when Washington urged Saddam's opponents to rise up but did not back them with troops.
"You thought Saddam's rule was being ended, but he stayed, and you suffered. That will not happen this time. This regime will be gone and ended," Mr. Blair said.
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I think this is the closest that both Blair and Bush have gotten to the Iraqi People.
