posted on June 5, 2005 03:21:31 PM new
kiara - I just LOVE how you continually ADD ON things I've NEVER said.
I NEVER said I speak for all the troops.
And if you think that anyone reading here can't tell who does and who doesn't support the troops....you're sorely mistaken. They can and that's exactly WHY you see them agreeing with me. Because THEY can see it too.
I don't need to know who you know...I have a son that served. I was around him and his buddies - on their bases serveral times and they talked about the liberals, the liberal press and how most of the time when they'd listen to what they are telling the general public....they'd laugh...as it was like the press and the liberals who THINK they know so much about what's ACTUALLY happening in Iraq...were all WET!!!
But it DID upset them to know the public was 'buying' all these lies and mis-statements, believing them. NEVER reporting the good - never reporting their accomplishments - but rather siding against them...thinking and believing the worst about them.
Some here to SAY they support our troops have also insulted their intelligence. I can't begin to count how many times I've had to come in here and defend the FACT that they're the MOST educated group of soldiers the US has ever had.
I don't see insulting their intelligence for choosing to enlist as any type of support for them either.
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on June 5, 2005 03:25:30 PM new
Talk about insults, you're the only one that laughs the mocking, jeering laughs comparing their deaths to traffic stats each time they are remembered. I don't see anyone else here acting that un-American.
posted on June 5, 2005 03:28:40 PM new
Linda_k, some of us have higher intellect. We don't think the worst of ALL the troops because of the wrongful actions of a few.
posted on June 5, 2005 03:37:03 PM new
Kiara....you are anti-war. You keep changing whether or not you support the Afghanistan war....but you've been real clear on not supporting this one. Obviously your right. Since OUR government is the one who sent our soldiers to war...you're against US policy towards Iraq. That is anti-American...
anti-American policy.
but to answer you KD...it think it should be quite clear from reading any soldiers comments. The actions of the anti-war left, the anti-war MSM and all the articles that are doing nothing but reporting negatively on the war....and printing it as often as they can....while NOT reporting on the actions of the terrorist...are encouraging the terrorists to kill more of our soldiers. Encouraging more to join in with the terrorists against our troops.
This koran incident is a super example. Our press makes it such a HUGE deal...the left joins in and is screaming about how terrible our soldiers are treating this ENEMIES, and what does that do? It angers even more Muslims...makes them want to join those already fighting our soldiers.
It encourages our enemies...it encourages the whole world to see us as the 'evil' ones....rather than the truly evil ones we're fighting against.
That's choosing sides....like President Bush said...you're either with us or your're against us. And if you're for our cause, for our soldiers to be successful in their mission, then you don't go blasting everything they do...but then say you support us.
Doesn't work that way.
To support us would be to remind the people, the world, how saddam put them in wood chippers feet first....remind them that he cut out their tongues...remind them that his sons raped and murdered women...cut off their heads and put them on their parents door steps.
But no....let's publish, over and over and over and over again, each little accusation that some prisoner in Gito CLAIMS happened to them...and make a FEDERAL case out of all those little incidents.
posted on June 5, 2005 03:44:23 PM new
"""This koran incident is a super example. Our press makes it such a HUGE deal...the left joins in and is screaming about how terrible our soldiers are treating this ENEMIES, and what does that do? It angers even more Muslims...makes them want to join those already fighting our soldiers.""
Pretty stupid to put the cart before the horse!
The soldiers COMMITTED those acts and THAT"S why the Muslims get angry.
Aren't we supposed to show the world that we're the GOOD GUYS?
AGAIN: If you act like a terrorist you ARE a TERRORIST.
posted on June 5, 2005 03:51:13 PM new
kiara - Since you keeping repeating how you've TWISTED my statement I'll say it one more time.
It's so YOU PERSONALLY can put just one thing into perspective. Just ONE thing for a change.
I've said, when you use our soldiers deaths for your anti-war agenda, that when one puts it into perspective, one will see that while 40,000 people die in car accidents each year....their deaths were for nothing...an accident.
While each and every death and injury that our soldiers have suffered are for a VERY IMPORTANT cause. Peace in the ME. Freedom for two countries. Hope for many more in that part of the world. Removing terrorism... I could go on.
So...while ALL lives are precious and all deaths are felt by caring people, when compared to one another....1650 in two years is not as terrible as you anti-war people try to make it look. And certainly not like losing 80,000, in the same time frame, for NO reason.
Maybe your next 'flower child' project could be to stop people from driving any cars...then we won't lose 40,000 a year. Just like you're trying to do with the deaths in this war.
Peace at any cost would have saved these 800 deaths a year, for the two years we've been fighting....but at what long-term cost? Our freedom? Our economy? A war on our own land?
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
[ edited by Linda_K on Jun 5, 2005 03:58 PM ]
posted on June 5, 2005 03:53:25 PM newKiara....you are anti-war. You keep changing whether or not you support the Afghanistan war....
You are wrong.
I am not against all wars.
I supported the troops going into Afghanistan to hunt down Osama Bin Laden. I did not approve of the diversion to Iraq, a war based on lies.
I support the effort of the soldiers, they are doing the job they were sent to do and they are extremely strong and brave men and women and they should be given full credit for all their good efforts and there are many to note.
Linda_k, you act like you speak for ALL of America, which you try to do nonstop here......... but remember....... I speak for only myself. If I have something to say about what I believe, it will come direct from me and not from you.
"Some here to SAY they support our troops have also insulted their intelligence. I can't begin to count how many times I've had to come in here and defend the FACT that they're the MOST educated group of soldiers the US has ever had."
Let's see evidence of that. Show where we have insulted the intelligence of troops and where you have defended their intelligence.
posted on June 5, 2005 04:03:52 PM new
No, kiara, wrong again.
Not for all of American....just those American's who truly do support our Armed Forces.
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on June 5, 2005 04:07:10 PM new
Oh...so what now helen? You're going to pretend you never heard anyone here say that...and you haven't seen me over and over say it's not true.
sure.
Well..since you want
evidence and have such a faulty, SELECTIVE memory, you - the QUEEN of search - can certainly find it yourself.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on June 5, 2005 04:16:40 PM new
That's your standard reply when asked for evidence. Do you believe that you are a priviledged character and that you can say ANYTHING without observing an obligation to support your statements with verifiable evidence?
posted on June 5, 2005 04:27:18 PM new
LOL helen....
[i]Do you believe that you are a priviledged character and that you can say ANYTHING without observing an obligation to support your statements with verifiable evidence[i]?
How different you see things than most NORMAL, fair-minded people do.
I would be priviledge IF you required the same from all others....and then I wasn't willing to go along.
But you don't...so no it's not....as I've told you and kiara....I won't be held to a different/double standard of the 'game rules'.
I know it pisses you off...too bad.
Plus I give others more credit that I do you...believing their memories are MUCH better than yours appears to be lately. You can't even remember what a poster just said, when you read it right before you posted in answer to it. -D So it doesn't surprise me that you can't remember back further than that.
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on June 5, 2005 04:32:13 PM new
"""Maybe your next 'flower child' project could be to stop people from driving any cars...then we won't lose 40,000 a year. Just like you're trying to do with the deaths in this war.
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At least they weren't LIED TO about why they were driving their cars .
posted on June 5, 2005 04:33:13 PM new
Maybe those others can come to your defense then and tell us if anyone here insulted the intelligence of the troops over and over and that you had to come to their defense.
posted on June 5, 2005 04:42:25 PM new
LOL...another difference between you and I helen.
I don't need 'others' to come 'back me up'. I know truth...I speak truth...I don't lie...and I remember what I've DEFENDED time and time again.
Now, if YOU need verification for what you've said....then there's really no need for you to be keeping tens of thousands of files on your own posts here.
Maybe you should check your own files...YOU might even have been one that made one of those ugly statements about our soldiers lack of education....of course, all the while supporting them.
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on June 5, 2005 04:47:54 PM new "I don't need 'others' to come 'back me up'. I know truth...I speak truth...I don't lie...and I remember what I've DEFENDED time and time again"
I am tired of your lies, linda. And I am not alone in that respect. No one here has insulted the intelligence of the troops. And you have not had to come to their defense...Clean up your act and be truthful.
posted on June 5, 2005 04:48:42 PM new
Lets get something straight. Bush did not send the troops to war. The Congress did. No matter how you look at it the Congress voted to go to war. Are the liberals to stupid to think for themselves so they play follow the leader. Well get over it. Congress voted and they went to war.
Linda you can't debate with a "leftie" they think that they are always right and have the perfect answer to everything. It's amazing how they think things would be different if Kerry was President. If the liberals think that tell me why you think that.
The most vocal on this thread are the two that live in a different country try to tell us how they support our troops. They don't live here, they only have access to the news papers that are liberal. They need to see the perspective of the people in contact with the service men everyday. Then there is bigpeepa who travels around the country side spewing the hate of the Bush Presidency.
Well maybe if there was a little more love and cooperation it would be different, but of course it will never happen. You still can't get over that the democrats lost the election, but, would it be any different with your traitor Kerry at the helm.
Last night in the city of Milwaukee 5 young men were killed in a firey crash. They drove through a cement barrier fell 40 feet below to another highway. Bodies burned beyond recognition. Alcohol might be a factor. Now those were needless deaths.
posted on June 5, 2005 04:54:51 PM new
Libra says, "Lets get something straight. Bush did not send the troops to war. The Congress did. No matter how you look at it the Congress voted to go to war. Are the liberals to stupid to think for themselves so they play follow the leader. Well get over it. Congress voted and they went to war. ""
libra, what can't you understand about the FACT that we , and congress, were LIED TO. No, it's NOT a supposition, it has been PROVEN. Congress had to act with the LIES BUSH GAVE THEM!
You can deny it all you want but that won't chage the FACT that it's been PROVEN TRUE.
posted on June 5, 2005 04:58:15 PM new
Helen said [i]I am tired of your lies, linda[/].[i] And I am not alone in that respect[/]
No your not Helen. Have you noticed it is only the liberal "Lefties" that say that...
Do you see anyone other than Kiara, logans,bigpeepa, crowfarm, KD back up your statement. Well, then I guess it must be true - Not. It is only a matter of opinion in my book and their opinions don't count.
Maybe we should send the URL of this discussion board to the troops overseas and see what they think of all the messages posted on this board.
posted on June 5, 2005 05:04:12 PM new"The actions of the anti-war left, the anti-war MSM and all the articles that are doing nothing but reporting negatively on the war....and printing it as often as they can....while NOT reporting on the actions of the terrorist...are encouraging the terrorists to kill more of our soldiers. Encouraging more to join in with the terrorists against our troops."
I disagree. If a soldier honestly believes they need their moral boosted by only people that agree with the war, then you sure are making them all look like a bunch of dummies, Linda.
posted on June 5, 2005 05:04:45 PM new
Helen my dear...You’re the one with the memory and or honesty problem.
Where's the link to the Rev's A-List page? You said you had it.
You don't remember stating your being an anarchist.
You the only one I know of that saves every bit of this message board bring back lines of old arguments out of context.
You that didn’t remember the Viet Nam vets being spat at on returning from war. You that boo booed any of what happened when our fighting men returned from Nam.
You the lonely, selfish, leftist organizer of socialist idiocy, who has been able to manipulate only the feeblest of minds that visit this domain.
You were against the American soldiers at one time till the majority of the board said they supported them. You’re a sneaky person, flicking your venom from some dark corner.
posted on June 5, 2005 05:13:13 PM new
bigpeepa do you think in the manner of which you post that you can scream and yell at us and we will change our minds? The only mind it will change is mine and it says what a stupid person you are because you cannot see the forest for the trees. Now lay off those caps. They do nothing. get it nothing.
Do you see the trouble your screaming buddy Dean is in, well you are running a very close second to him.
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