posted on June 22, 2005 10:54:53 AM new
""Wow Miss crowfarm, you sure do sling alot of mud. "
First: That's Ms. to you.
Second: Since your Alzheimers has set in I excuse you for forgetting about YOUR name calling and mud flinging. And , yes, it counts when you slither in on your belly like linduh does and support insults with things like " Libra63
posted on June 21, 2005 09:27:22 PM
good one classic """
""first you say that he cuts benefits then you agree with fiset that he is throwing money around. Which is it. Can't have it both ways.""
It wasn't complicated at all (to normal functioning people). Bush Isn't throwing money to the health care of vets.
""What do you want the veterans nurses to do work a 24 hour day? Maybe let them take a short nap during the day so they can continue on. Get over your self crowfarm, the more you post the more it sounds like you hate the US.""
If you could read you'd see I'm against nurses being forced to work 16 hour shifts....I don't care who did what...they shouldn't be forced to work such long hours. Again, very clear to normal people.
Now, that "get over yourself" crap you keep repeating(because an original or clever retort is way past your limited abilities).....do YOU know what it means...I don't...and don't care.
To YOU it sounds like I hate the U.S. ...No, to me it sounds like bush doesn't support the wounded veterans of this country and I care about them, my father was one........
you REALLY think that indicates hating America ????....how stupid
posted on June 22, 2005 10:58:42 AM new
""I have been to Great Lakes Navel Hospital with my Husband and I find the care that he gets is good. He recently had what we thought was a detached retina and he called them and he got in within 2 hours. I don't think that is bad service. We live about an hour away. The people working there are quite compassionate and I have heard no complaints from them""
This is NO argument but it is typical of Repugs....if in their tiny little coccoon if everything is fine then the whole world is fine ! Totally illogical but that's our Repugs!
Just because that hopsital had one satified patient that Libra knows about then the people in Minnesota must be lying..???????????????????
posted on June 22, 2005 11:16:58 AM newjust so you can prove yourself to be the little pick-ass
No kiara, that title belongs to you. As well as de complainer du jour!
Now if you want anyone to really believe you see the good more than the bad in life, why dont you try posting something that is not judging or maligning anything & everything all the time? What I see is you rag on everything and then call it reality.
Youre friggin miserable.
But we'll be watching and recording, so dont you worry your pick-ass little self over your grand view of life's good things.
posted on June 22, 2005 11:25:13 AM new hopsital - It is spelled hospital Miss crowfarm
OK Miss crowfarm just where do you think the they will get nurses? Come on now please tell me.
Nurses are caring people and if a hospital needs them more than 8 hours a day they won't walk out. But nurses are not scheduled 8 hours a day. The are scheduled for 12 hours and work 3 days a week. Weekend nurses also work 12 hours a day but their weekend pay is for 40 hours. Nurses that work week days do not work weekends and weekend nurses do not work weekdays. It is not like a factory unless you think patients are machines.
Now since Kiara called me on the carpet about putting you on ignore I have not insulted you, unlike what you do. Well whoopee ding so your father was a veteran I bet there are a lot of fathers out there that are veterans.
What problem do you have Miss crowfarm, you keep repeating your self. I guess since I know one patient that was treated good probably is the same as your father was a veteran. So you know one veteran.
You still didn't answer my question. Where do you think they will get the nurses?
posted on June 22, 2005 11:42:53 AM new
dblfugger9, once again I posted "my" opinion on the topic and stated some real facts. But all your little brain can muster up is recycling my old words and then posting a twisted opinion on me because of your own lack of knowledge about the real world experiences that some others may have, so you're left with nothing to really say.
Soon I'll be busy but I will still try to check in here as often as I can... and then I can see if you're actually rising above the lap dog and copycat status you're content to wallow in. I do think you're quite intelligent and I have higher hopes for you.
Maybe she wants to come up and help me paint my new store and house. I'll be working with some macho guys who think they know everything so it could be tons of fun... then everyone can try to tell me how to do things.
posted on June 22, 2005 12:27:00 PM new
That would impossible kraft. I reserve my love for people who dont think that only people who give them cookies are ok or good people. You read Wayne Dyer? A bunch of you here should read I'm okay, youre okay. But obviously from kiaras last statment, she's the only one thats okay. But to answer your curosity, I just enjoy being the critiquer's critic. Its a tough job, but somebody has to do it
You know kiara, just because you feel close to a maid groveling for your dollars in sales from the public, still doesnt mean a medical professional feels that way. They have alot more to offer than greeting cards and knicknaks to make a difference to somebody
posted on June 22, 2005 01:03:08 PM new
Lala, why should I answer your question.....you haven't addressed the issue.
Again I'm sorry about your Alzheimers which allows you to forget about the times you've called people stupid, idiots, and scumbags.
""Now since Kiara called me on the carpet about putting you on ignore I have not insulted you, unlike what you do. Well whoopee ding so your father was a veteran I bet there are a lot of fathers out there that are veterans.""
YES, I believe WHOOPEE DING my father was a veteran ! To ME it's a big deal...I honored him for that even though to you it doesn't seem to mean much .
But please ramble on and on and on about nurse's hours if it makes you feel comfy.....means nothing to me.
posted on June 22, 2005 01:08:57 PM new
dblfugger9, nurses get trained to do exceptional duties which shouldn't include maid service and that's exactly what I said.
I chose my jobs also and fully realize that some of the demeaning work I have to do just goes with the territory and I accept it because I love most everything I do which is a lot more than you can ever imagine.
But obviously from kiaras last statment, she's the only one thats okay.
Are you sure you don't want to help us paint, dblfugger9? There's only one guy I've kept for myself out of the crew so you can maybe have the others. And I've worked for ages painting and remodeling with some of these guys and they do think they know everything... you'd have to be there and see it to believe it. I speak from experience.
posted on June 22, 2005 01:49:15 PM new
Double, you read stuff into Kiara's posts that aren't there, then you complain about the imaginary stuff she supposedly said. She was trying to tell you that nurses do more than just nurse these days and some of those extra duties include maid type work. Get a grip on yourself!
I agree about the Wayne Dyer books. You should read his last one.
Kiara, Double will be busy, but I'll help. No sense in her flying all the way up to BC when she's PMSing.
posted on June 22, 2005 03:30:16 PM new
Year three of the war and some troops still do not have the right equipment.
Marine units found to lack equipment
Corps estimates of needs in Iraq are called faulty
By Bryan Bender, Globe Staff | June 21, 2005
WASHINGTON -- Marine Corps units fighting in some of the most dangerous terrain in Iraq don't have enough weapons, communications gear, or properly outfitted vehicles, according to an investigation by the Marine Corps' inspector general provided to Congress yesterday.
The report, obtained by the Globe, says the estimated 30,000 Marines in Iraq need twice as many heavy machine guns, more fully protected armored vehicles, and more communications equipment to operate in a region the size of Utah.
The Marine Corps leadership has ''understated" the amount and types of ground equipment it needs, according to the investigation, concluding that all of its fighting units in Iraq ''require ground equipment that exceeds" their current supplies, ''particularly in mobility, engineering, communications, and heavy weapons."
Complaints of equipment shortages in Iraq, including lack of adequate vehicle armor, have plagued the Pentagon for months, but most of the reported shortages have been found in the Army, which makes up the bulk of the American occupation force.
The analysis of the Marines' battle readiness, however, shows that the Corps is lacking key equipment needed to stabilize Al Anbar province in western Iraq. The province is where some of the bloodiest fighting has occurred in recent months between American-led coalition forces and Iraqi insurgents aided by foreign fighters who have slipped across the border.
Marine Corps forces and newly trained Iraqi soldiers battled insurgents in Al Anbar province for the fourth straight day yesterday as part of Operation Spear, launched last week along the Syrian border.
The Marine Corps' mission, among the most difficult of the 140,000 American troops in Iraq, is to help stabilize a huge swath of Iraq where popular support for the insurgency is highest and where more sophisticated enemy tactics have been introduced, including larger and more effective improvised explosive devices, the roadside bombs that are the single biggest killer of American troops in Iraq.
But the report says that about a quarter of the Second Marine Expeditionary Force's Humvees lack sufficient armor to protect troops against roadside bombings, including 1,000 vehicles that have yet to be fitted with armor plates to protect the undercarriage.
The report also says that if the current demands in Iraq continue, the Corps will need another 650 Humvees, which have been logging an average of 480 miles a month, mostly over rough terrain. And despite an agreement with the Army to repair broken vehicles at a maintenance facility in Kuwait, the Marine Corps had not scheduled any repairs as of last month.
Meanwhile, those Humvees that have received full armor -- which the report says have significantly improved the safety of troops -- are suffering excessive wear and tear because they were never designed to carry the additional weight.
The report also found that Abrams tanks and other combat vehicles are being so overused that replacements are needed quickly. It found that all of the Marines' battle tanks in Iraq have passed the normal criteria for replacing them.
Meanwhile, units need at least twice as many of the .50-caliber machine guns that are mounted atop vehicles and designed to protect an entire unit from enemy fire, the report said.
The units also need more M240G machine guns, a heavy gun used in battle, and more of the lighter MK19 machine guns, used at checkpoints to thwart insurgent attacks.
''Most infantry, logistics, and security battalions require approximately twice the number of .50-caliber machine guns and more M240G and MK19 machine guns than they would normally possess," according to the 40-page report, entitled ''Marine Corps Ground Equipment in Iraq."
Communications gear, too, is lacking. The Marine Expeditionary Force headquarters, known as Multinational Forces-West, ''has command responsibilities that far exceed any level contemplated by organizational and equipment planners," the report said. Radio and satellite tracking systems are ''in critical demand and constant use."
After interviewing commanders, staff members, and unit leaders, the inspector general's office concluded that the Marine Corps' current strategy to meet its communications needs in Iraq ''is not sufficient to meet the current and future needs of the force."
The inspector general also determined that even with recommended changes, including replacing damaged armaments, the war will continue to take a toll on the Marine Corps' equipment, from having nearly all of its fighting gear ready for combat this year to having less than two-thirds of it in battle shape by the middle of 2008.
The Marine Corps' equipment shortages are expected to be the focus of a House Armed Services Committee hearing today, where lawmakers will hear testimony from General William Nyland, the assistant commandant of the Marine Corps and Major General William Catto, commander of the Marine Corps Systems Command.
Officials at Marine Corps headquarters and the Systems Command declined to comment on the inspector general's report, saying they were not yet familiar enough with its findings to respond to questions.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on June 22, 2005 03:31:16 PM new
Hit by friendly fire
With his polls down, Bush takes flak on Iraq from a host of critics--including some in his own party
By Kevin Whitelaw
Nebraska Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel is angry. He's upset about the more than 1,700 U.S. soldiers killed and nearly 13,000 wounded in Iraq. He's also aggravated by the continued string of sunny assessments from the Bush administration, such as Vice President Dick Cheney's recent remark that the insurgency is in its "last throes." "Things aren't getting better; they're getting worse. The White House is completely disconnected from reality," Hagel tells U.S. News. "It's like they're just making it up as they go along. The reality is that we're losing in Iraq."
That's strikingly blunt talk from a member of the president's party, even one cast as something of a pariah in the GOP because of his early skepticism about the war. "I got beat up pretty good by my own party and the White House that I was not a loyal Republican," he says. Today, he notes, things are changing: "More and more of my colleagues up here are concerned."
Indeed, there are signs that the politics of the Iraq war are being reshaped by the continuing tide of bad news. Take this month in Iraq, with 47 U.S. troops killed in the first 15 days. That's already five more than the toll for the entire month of June last year. With the rate of insurgent attacks near an all-time high and the war's cost set to top $230 billion, more politicians on both sides of the aisle are responding to opinion polls that show a growing number of Americans favoring a withdrawal from Iraq. Republican Sens. Lincoln Chafee and Lindsey Graham have voiced their concerns. And two Republicans, including the congressman who brought "freedom fries" to the Capitol, even joined a pair of Democratic colleagues in sponsoring a bill calling for a troop withdrawal plan to be drawn up by year's end. "I feel confident that the opposition is going to build," says Rep. Ron Paul, the other Republican sponsor and a longtime opponent of the war.
Sagging polls. The measure is not likely to go anywhere, but Hagel calls it "a major crack in the dike." Whether or not that's so, the White House has reason to worry that the assortment of critiques of Bush's wartime performance may be approaching a tipping point. Only 41 percent of Americans now support Bush's handling of the Iraq war, the lowest mark ever in the Associated Press-Ipsos poll. And the Iraq news has combined with a lethargic economy and doubts about the president's Social Security proposals to push Bush's overall approval ratings near all-time lows. For now, most Republicans remain publicly loyal to the White House. "Why would you give your enemies a timetable?" asks House Majority Leader Tom DeLay. "[Bush] doesn't fight the war on news articles or television or on polls."
Still, the Bush administration is planning to hit back, starting this week, with a renewed public-relations push by the president. Bush will host Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim Jafari and has scheduled a major speech for June 28, the anniversary of the handover of power to an Iraqi government from U.S. authorities. But Congress's patience could wear very thin going into an election year. "If things don't start to turn around in six months, then it may be too late," says Hagel. "I think it's that serious."
Bush's exit strategy--which depends on a successful Iraqi political process--got a boost last week when Sunni and Shiite politicians ended weeks of wrangling over how to increase Sunni representation on the constitution-writing committee. Now, however, committee members have less than two months before their mid-August deadline. And given how long it took to resolve who gets to draft the document, it's hard to imagine a quick accord on the politically explosive issues they face.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on June 22, 2005 04:05:09 PM new
kiara, thanks, but no thanks, I'll pass on the painting party with the bossy crew - one boss is enuf in my life (thats me!)...
posted on June 22, 2005 05:42:07 PM new
I just love reading the dems here blast what they see as not supporting our troops.
Sad that they are SO VERY misinformed...hard to arrive at competent conclusions when they are based on false information all the time.
The polls when President Bush was re-elected held him at 52%. They're now between 48 - 50%. That's NOT what I call 'sagging poll numbers'. Nor anything to be worried about as he will serve his full term. But the dems need a dream I guess.
Since they have no solutions to bring to the table....what else do they have to hope for? Nothing....
Then there's this nonsen that this President hasn't supported our troops in the area of their care. Anyone who wants to know the TRUTH can easily read he's INCREASED funding for them by 47%. But to listen to the dems talk....he's neglecting them terribly. NOT!!
Then the CLAIM they support our troops....but do they believe the words of those who are in charge of our troops - their commanders about what's really at stake here? NOPE again. I don't see that they've done that even once. They just give lip service to surporting our troops....all the while supporting and believing each and every negative report that the left leaning media put out against them. durbin was the latest bad example. And when he apologized for his totally FALSE statements about the actions of our military....the LEFT is upset he did so.
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General hits 'complacency' on security
By Rowan Scarborough
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
June 22, 2005
The top U.S. operational commander in Iraq warned yesterday against an emerging "complacency" among Americans who now question whether the two-year war in Iraq "is worth it."
"The United States has not been attacked again since 11 September. And so there's some questioning, perhaps, of whether or not what's going on here is worth it," said Lt. Gen. John R. Vines, who commands the Multinational Corps Iraq. "Quite honestly, I think we have a pretty clear-cut choice. We either deal with terrorism and this extremism abroad, or we deal with it when it comes to us, as it would inevitably, as it has previously."
The comment from Gen. Vines came as American support for continued troop presence in Iraq is slipping in the polls and some members of Congress have offered particularly negative war assessments. All of this comes as the American death toll in Iraq topped 1,700 since the March 2003 invasion.
Gen. Vines, speaking via a teleconference to reporters at the Pentagon, said the "bit of complacency" stems in part from the operations in Iraq and at home that have been "relatively successful."
Asked about Americans who say Iraq is "a mess," Gen. Vines said, "I would say they don't have a good perception of what is at stake here. I would say that they don't recognize that the people that are attacking the coalition and that are murdering innocent men, women and children here want to impose that same value system on a large portion of the world."
[i]I think the General was speaking directly to a comment helen made here.....about the 'mess' ...he must be quoting her[/b].
Last week, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, on the House floor called President Bush's decision to oust Saddam Hussein a "grotesque mistake" and "without success."
Boy...she's SURE another troop supporter....NOT
U.S. News and World Report quoted Sen. Chuck Hagel, Nebraska Republican, as saying, "Things aren't getting any better. They're getting worse. ... The reality is that we're losing in Iraq."
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Gen. Vines disagreed, saying there had been "significant progress throughout the country" since the transition a year ago from coalition rule to Iraqi sovereignty.
but hey, why listen to anyone who actually is THERE and KNOWS what he's talking about....better to listen to the anti-war crowd who read their Bible [NYT] and decide the journalists KNOW much more than those on the ground fighting this war. Or think they do anyway.
The Bush administration got an unexpected boost from a war critic, United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan. He wrote an op-ed piece published in The Washington Post under the headline, "There's Progress in Iraq." Mr. Annan wrote, "Let us not lose sight of the fact that all over Iraq today, Iraqis are debating nearly every aspect of their political future."
Gen. Vines rejected setting a troop withdrawal timeline. He said such decisions should be based on conditions on the battlefield instead of "an arbitrary decision that's just based on a counter."
On the issue of when the current 135,000-troop level can be reduced permanently, the general said he is not yet ready to recommend a reduction before two important dates: a vote on a new Iraqi constitution in October and then general elections in December. Some senior officers had suggested that Gen. Vines, and his superiors, Gen. George Casey and Gen. John Abizaid, collectively would recommend a drawdown by now.
But with Abu Musab Zarqawi's al Qaeda in Iraq organization unleashing a series of deadly suicide attacks, no such recommendation is imminent.
"I would not be prepared to recommend a drawdown prior to the election, certainly not any significant numbers," Gen. Vines said.
But he also said there would be no "spike" in forces before the election, as had been mentioned earlier this year by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.
Gen. Vines divided the enemy into four camps: Zarqawi's foreign jihadists who target Iraqi authorities and civilians for murder; Sunni religious fanatics; Saddam Hussein loyalists who want to bring back Ba'athist rule; and Iraqis who simply do not want foreign troops on their soil.
"The foreign fighters are what amounts to a terrorist cruise missile," the three-star officer said. "They can target a specific element without having to worry about their own survival. ... You're seeing one- and two-person cells that are attacking a large group by driving into a crowded market and detonating themselves."
Gen. Vines said the insurgency "could dwindle down very quickly" if the Shi'ite-dominated government drafts a constitution that is accepted by minority Sunnis and Kurds.
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Thank heaven we have the accounts of those who are their fighting this war....and don't have to rely on the 'chickens' or anti-war group in America who want us to admit defeat and withdraw to get accounts of how things REALLY ARE.
posted on June 22, 2005 06:10:10 PM new
Read enough of linduh's blurb to see that she continues to lie about the cuts made to health care for Veterans...well, maybe she's not lying...just another Repug Robot who believes everything and anything like a good little Comrad
Linduh "supports" the troops by supporting their unnecessary deaths and torture ....this is SUPPORT.????????
posted on June 22, 2005 07:50:59 PM newThe polls when President Bush was re-elected held him at 52%. They're now between 48 - 50%. That's NOT what I call 'sagging poll numbers'.
Are these the Zogby polls that you don't believe in because they do not represent a cross section of the population? Or are these the Zogby polls that you believe in because they are the only polls that show Bush in a favorable light?
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on June 22, 2005 08:04:53 PM new
I don't know if things are getting better or worse in Iraq. But I do know the Bush administration is now in total panic mode over the erosion of public support for the occupation. How else could one explain the President's bizarre radio address this past Saturday or the even more surreal comments recently from other administration officials?
First, the president's radio address: On Saturday President Bush defended the war in Iraq saying, "We went to war because we were attacked." Huh? In September 2003, the President himself stated, "We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the September 11th attacks." (For the record, the 9/11 Commission is on the side of the Sept. 2003 President Bush — The commission found there was "no collaborative relationship between Iraq and Al-Qaeda."
On Sunday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said criticism of the handling of the war isn't justified because "The administration, I think, has said to the American people that it is a generational commitment to Iraq." What? That was said... but it came from Senators pouring cold water on the administration's optimistic pre-war predictions. What were those predictions? Vice President Cheney (March 16, 2003) said, "My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators... I think it will go relatively quickly... in weeks rather than months." Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld on Feb. 7, 2003 said, "It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." Former Budget director Mitch Daniels (March 28, 2003) stated, "The United States is committed to helping Iraq recover from the conflict, but Iraq will not require sustained aid."
Iraq will not require sustained aid? Hmmm. Today, Congress voted to send the Pentagon another $45 billion for operations in Iraq. That brings the total amount appropriated so far, for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, to $322.40 billion.
The administration seems to think that by shifting the justification for the war or changing what administration officials said 3 years ago, the president's poll numbers will magically turn around. The pretzel shaped logic of this strategy is mind-boggling. And one begins to wonder if the gang that helped President Bush win a 2nd term has been stuffed into a closet.
The math on this is simple. If the war was going well, the public would support the occupation of Iraq, regardless of whatever reasons the administration gave for the invasion. The problem is, according to republican Senator Chuck Hagel, "The White House is completely disconnected from reality. It's like they're just making it up as they go along."
And now, the public is tired of this deadly trip through fantasyland — a place where White House P.R. strategies seem to matter more than holding anybody accountable for the war's mistakes and mismanagement.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on June 22, 2005 11:59:21 PM new
""I think we have a pretty clear-cut choice. We either deal with terrorism and this extremism abroad, or we deal with it when it comes to us, as it would inevitably, as it has previously."
Doesn't expain why we went to war in Iraq .
""Asked about Americans who say Iraq is "a mess," Gen. Vines said, "I would say they don't have a good perception of what is at stake here. I would say that they don't recognize that the people that are attacking the coalition and that are murdering innocent men, women and children here want to impose that same value system on a large portion of the world." "
Only linduh and this guy would think that ""are murdering innocent men, women and children "" is NOT a mess.
It's also a mess considering that the bush administration said it would be over in a matter of weeks.....the results of NO PLANNING can be described as a mess.
posted on June 23, 2005 12:07:11 AM new
DEEP, WIDESPREAD CUTS IN DOMESTIC PROGRAMS OVER
NEXT FIVE YEARS UNDER ADMINISTRATION BUDGET
Concentrating on the Wrong Target: Bush Cuts Would Reduce Domestic Discretionary Spending, As A Share of GDP, To Its Lowest Level in 46 Years
Fact Sheet:
Broad Cuts in Domestic Programs After 2005 Under Administration Budget
Under the Administration’s budget, overall funding would be cut over the next five years in nearly every broad area of the federal budget related to domestic non-entitlement programs, according to a new analysis from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. Funding would be significantly lower in 2009 than 2004 (in inflation-adjusted terms) for non-entitlement programs in every area except defense, international affairs, and science and space.
By 2009, funding for non-entitlement programs in areas such as national resources and the environment,
veterans’ health benefits,
health, and agriculture would be 10 percent to 20 percent below the 2004 funding levels, adjusted for inflation. Transportation programs, as well as education, training, and social services programs, would be cut by 7 to 8 percent over this period.
The proposed cuts are so large, an accompanying Center report shows, that by 2009, total funding for domestic non-entitlement programs outside homeland security would fall to its lowest level, measured as a share of the economy, since 1963.
Spending Cuts Would Help Finance Tax Cuts, Not Shrink Deficit
posted on June 23, 2005 12:17:19 AM new
DEEP, WIDESPREAD CUTS IN DOMESTIC PROGRAMS OVER
NEXT FIVE YEARS UNDER ADMINISTRATION BUDGET
Concentrating on the Wrong Target: Bush Cuts Would Reduce Domestic Discretionary Spending, As A Share of GDP, To Its Lowest Level in 46 Years
Fact Sheet:
Broad Cuts in Domestic Programs After 2005 Under Administration Budget
Under the Administration’s budget, overall funding would be cut over the next five years in nearly every broad area of the federal budget related to domestic non-entitlement programs, according to a new analysis from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. Funding would be significantly lower in 2009 than 2004 (in inflation-adjusted terms) for non-entitlement programs in every area except defense, international affairs, and science and space.
By 2009, funding for non-entitlement programs in areas such as national resources and the environment,
veterans’ health benefits,
health, and agriculture would be 10 percent to 20 percent below the 2004 funding levels, adjusted for inflation. Transportation programs, as well as education, training, and social services programs, would be cut by 7 to 8 percent over this period.
The proposed cuts are so large, an accompanying Center report shows, that by 2009, total funding for domestic non-entitlement programs outside homeland security would fall to its lowest level, measured as a share of the economy, since 1963.
Spending Cuts Would Help Finance Tax Cuts, Not Shrink Deficit
posted on June 23, 2005 06:20:05 AM new
THE INDEPENDENT BUDGET
A Budget for Veterans by Veterans
www.independentbudget.org
Contact: Richard Flanagan, AMVETS
(301) 459-9600
David Autry, Disabled American Veterans
(202) 314-5219
Bob Ensinger, Paralyzed Veterans of America (202) 416-7681
William Smith, Veterans of Foreign Wars (202) 543-2239
Veterans Urge Adequate Budget for VA Medical Care
February 21, 2003, WASHINGTON, DC—Organizations representing millions of America’s veterans are urging Congress to fully fund medical care for their sick and disabled comrades, many of whom have been put on long waiting lists or have been denied treatment because of budget shortfalls. Noting that the Bush Administration’s proposed budget for the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) would do little to end severe rationing of health care, the authors of The Independent Budget (http://www.independentbudget.org/) are calling on lawmakers to add some $2 billion to the President’s request for veterans health care and enact legislation to guarantee adequate funding to meet current and future needs.
The Independent Budget developed by AMVETS, Disabled American Veterans, Paralyzed Veterans of America and Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States identifies a $2 billion budgetary shortfall that seriously compromises the government’s ability to provide adequate medical care to veterans.
“There is no excuse for the long delays many sick and disabled veterans face in getting medical care,” said The Independent Budget authors. “Guaranteed funding is a common-sense solution to the decades-long crisis that has led to the severe rationing of health care that plagues the VA medical system.
The President’s budget requests $25.2 billion in appropriations for VA medical care and $2.1 billion in collections and increased co-payments, ranging from $15 to $20, and a $250 annual enrollment fees for some veterans.
As recommended in The Independent Budget, VA health care would receive a $27.2 billion appropriation, instead of shifting more of the costs to veterans.
“Guaranteeing funding for veterans health care would eliminate the year-to-year uncertainty surrounding discretionary funding levels, which have prevented the VA from being able to adequately plan for and meet the health care needs of a growing number of veterans seeking treatment.
According to the VA, the number of veterans using its health care system has drastically risen over the years, from 2.7 million in 1995 to 4.5 million in 2002. More than 6.5 million veterans are enrolled in the VA health care system, but because of insufficient funding for health care, nearly 236,000 veterans currently are waiting six months or longer for care. Additionally, the VA has closed enrollments to new patients at many hospitals and clinics.
Now I see why crowfarm stays with just insulting posters....she don't have a CLUE as to what is ACTUALLY going on.
Instead of using an article from Feb. 2004....that speaks to DEEP CUTS...that NEVER happened....and then her latest from Feb. '03.....oh brother ....can't she find any articles older than that?
...how about bringing herself up-to-date on the 2006 budget that ACTUALLY PASSED OUR CONGRESS rather than using 2 year old articles that don't show the actual FACTS about what funding actually was passed by our Congress?
She better stick to insulting....because she sure don't have a clue as to what she speaks about. no wonder she doesn't ever give a link or source when she copies and pastes [like she b!tches about others doing ], nor how old her articles actually are, nor that they're PROJECTIONS, not amounts that were ACTUALLY FUNDED.....THEY'RE always SO OUTDATED IT'S LAUGHABLE.
Might try actually READING the 2006 Federal Budget so she doesn't look so very ignorant when she posts what she obviously knows NOTHING about.
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And yes, there have been cuts made to some programs....there's way too much that is 'set in cement' and can't be touched. But the Federal budget didn't go down...it went up again. The dems have used the high deficit to complain about this administrations 'out-of-control' spending. So...when a program gets cut by .01% or less...they SCREAM bloody murder about cuts....cuts...DEEP cuts... LOL
Guess they think reducing the Federal budget's going to just happen all on it's own...with no cuts, no freezes or slowing of growth.
Had we put kerry in office, all his proposed spending wouldn't have bothered the dem party at all. They were all for it...even though it would have added approx. 2 TRILLION MORE dollars to our deficit.
OR better yet....we could all be enjoying HUGE tax increases to pay for all the promised program expansions kerry was promising to everyone.
Just can't please the left....they complain about spending...they complain about cuts....they don't want anything cut...and then they want to spend more AND have a balanced budget....right.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on June 23, 2005 10:35:09 AM new
Oh How funny to see linduh wetting herself over her perceived "point". It IS understandable since I've proven her wrong so many times
No, linduh, my posts were pointing out how the bush administration offers no support for the troops in their attempt to cut funding to veterans...they do that nicely!
Now, linduh, I know how exciting it must be for you to think you scored a point but we could always go back to a few little items you failed to address.....did you happen to find an example of bias on public TV ?
If you'd like I could find other examples of your humiliation at my hands.
