posted on June 26, 2005 04:31:51 PM new
I have a solution to those poor old cigarette smokers. SMOKE POT!!! There are no taxes. LOL.
Geez, now I'm on a roll about marijuana again. Legalizing marijuana would solve so many problems. Legalize it. Why? Do you think a pot smoker would mind if the government taxed it? No. Tax the living hell out of it. Billions, if not trillions of dollars and tens of thousands of jobs would be created out of it. Tax the following that could be created from marijuana... textiles, paper, oil (even for autos), cosmetics, silicon, pharmaceuticals, and so on. Imagine the jobs that would be created to harvest it, regulate it, tax it, promote it, manufacture it, sell it, create indirect jobs from the income it generates, use the taxes to improve the quality of schools, provide universal health care, improving our roads and highways, use the income to fight serious drugs like meth and heroin from hitting our children.
What I am saying is that there are so many benefits from the use of this plant, that it could very easily resolve alot of the problems we fight over day in and day out. Deregulating marijuana is actually a "conservative ideology" based on less regulation while also promoting a means of generating more profits.
Those of you who still think that marijuana is a horrible drug just remember... Not one single person has ever died directly from the use of Marijuana. Can you say that about alcohol or cigarettes? No. Yet, these more dangerous drugs are legal. How about prescription drugs? I can guarantee that there are thousands of medications out there that are far more debilitating that the high you get from smoking pot. Even drinking alcohol will get you far beyond the point that pot would. Marijuana should not to be feared. It should be further researched and used, even if it is only for medical and industrial purposes because it will only improve the quality of life of those who are sick, and could only help our economy as well.
posted on June 26, 2005 04:35:32 PM new
twig, We leave a note taped the front door for the UPS driver. The note says something like this, Hello UPS driver, this note and my signature gives you permission to leave my package from (who ever). It works with my driver hope it will work for you.
posted on June 26, 2005 04:55:34 PM new
Oh brother....That's all we need....more pot heads. NOT!!
There are many car accidents caused directly because of the fact that some loser is totally wacked out of his mind on pot and got behind the wheel of a car. I had one run into me years ago....he couldn't even tell the police his own name. So don't try to imply smoking pot causes no deaths.
Then there's also the lung problems....some appear to think inhaling pot is SO different from inhaling cigarette smoke. Oh yea...that deep inhaling doesn't bother the lungs at all. WRONG!!
Then, of course, we have the total idiot parents who leave their 'drugs' lying around so their very children can use them, eat them or offer them to their children to see their reaction.
No way....to legalizing pot...there are enough pot heads as it is now and legalizing it only gives 'approval' so more can 'turn off' rather than deal with life as it is.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on June 26, 2005 05:18:03 PM new
"Oh brother....That's all we need....more pot heads. NOT!!"
Another assumption from Linda. There is no direct correlation between legalization and increased number of people using it.
"There are many car accidents caused directly because of the fact that some loser is totally wacked out of his mind on pot and got behind the wheel of a car. I had one run into me years ago....he couldn't even tell the police his own name. So don't try to imply smoking pot causes no deaths."
I never implied smoking pot causes no deaths. What I said was that it has never caused one direct death. People don't OD on pot, like they do on alcohol or prescription drugs. There is a difference between a death by cause and effect and a direct death. Obviously you have alot to learn Linda. People shouldn't smoke pot and drive, just as people shouldn't drink and drive. It is called responsibility. I thought conservatives believed in less government intervention? If we lived under your standards then prohibition would still exist wouldn't it? No beer, no wine, no alcohol. We see where that got us.
"Then there's also the lung problems....some appear to think inhaling pot is SO different from inhaling cigarette smoke. Oh yea...that deep inhaling doesn't bother the lungs at all. WRONG!!"
Another misconception. Actually, there are many ways to filter marijuana that are much more effective than filtering cigarettes, plus one or two drags is all a pot smoker needs to achieve their goal. I would think it is nearly impossible (with a few exceptions of course) for a pot smoker to smoke the equivelant of a pack a day, let alone two, three, or god forbid... four packs a day like too many chain smokers.
"Then, of course, we have the total idiot parents who leave their 'drugs' lying around so their very children can use them, eat them or offer them to their children to see their reaction."
Yeah, very valid point Linda. I guess cigarettes, alcohol, guns, and prescription drugs should be illegal as well under that assumption. Do you realize how big of a hole your arguments leave me??? Really.
"No way....to legalizing pot...there are enough pot heads as it is now and legalizing it only gives 'approval' so more can 'turn off' rather than deal with life as it is."
Just curious, but what does "turn off" mean to you? I mean, we let alcoholics "turn off" all the time. A constitutional amendment gave them a right to do so. Why is that legal then? Why is it legal for someone to ride a horse if it helps them "turn off" rather than deal with life as it is? Why do people play music, paint a picture, or do anything for that matter? Really Linda... What gives you the right to decide what is a good "turn off" vs. bad one? What is your vice Linda? Is it spending countless hours on Vendio's Round Table promoting your fascist ideologies? What makes you think that is any healthier than someone taking a puff and watching a movie, or someone taking marijuana for a life threatening illness? Or what makes your vice healthier than a farmer being able to keep his family farm because he can grow hemp for industrial use? Or rediscovering the use of hemp to provide all of the energy we would ever need to fuel our cars, turn on our lights, and make manufacturing of every single thing we consume less expensive?
All I am saying is that there are other means to raise revenue other than heavily taxing one thing. How about taxing investment transactions such as stock purchases? Oh, will that only tax the rich??? Sorry, I guess that wouldn't work. LOL.
[ edited by rustygumbo on Jun 26, 2005 05:25 PM ]
posted on June 26, 2005 05:32:03 PM new
Awww. I guess I disproved Linda's theory a little too clearly. All she can do is attack a joke I made.
Don't act like your hands are clean of drugs. You support GW don't you? Man, that guy sure packed alot of coke up his nose during his life. What kind of message does that send to Americans? Perhaps, a coke head can actually succeed in life. How about Rush Limbaugh? What kind of message does that send to our children? Perhaps, it is ok to do drugs when you are younger, then you can repent and become President of the United States of America.
You watch FOX right? They promote drug use as well by airing That 70's Show and the Simpson's. FOX has promoted tons and tons of movies filled with drug use, sex, violence, etc. Doesn't that conflict against your morals? Oh, sorry, another hypocritical decision on your part.
[ edited by rustygumbo on Jun 26, 2005 05:39 PM ]
posted on June 26, 2005 05:34:57 PM newHere you are on a public board promoting the use of an illegal drug. Nice...real nice.
Oh ya........ like all of us adults are going to read this and run out and buy some..... same as all us nonsmokers are busy ordering cigarettes online after reading this. Yup!
so more can 'turn off' rather than deal with life as it is
posted on June 26, 2005 05:44:42 PM new
rusty - My hands ARE clean. I don't use illegal drugs and I don't promote them as you have here and I have no control over others who do or have.
The rest is just garbage from both you and kiara.
Typical of the ultra-left here.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on June 26, 2005 05:57:05 PM new
LOL!!! Your hands are clean... Oh so hypocritical. Is that a matter of convenience for your own morals and righteousness? Your hands are far from clean Linda. You keep believing that though. I'm sure it helps you go to sleep at night. Just remember, every time you turn that TV to a FOX station, you're supporting what you deem as filth! Just curious, but how many trashy romance novels do you read? You know the ones... Fabio's sweaty pectorals on the cover, seducing some "innocent" woman. Linda, get your head out of your butt. You're not absolved of the filth you tell us you run away from.
posted on June 26, 2005 06:17:46 PM new
Just more delusional rantings/ravings from a ultra-progressive/liberal who continues to mention all kinds of personal things about me that he has NO CLUE about. But hey...that's what they do...MAKE THINGS UP...PASS THEM OFF AS TRUTHS when they're not. That's why most in your party can't be believed too. They make up all this garbage they have no proof of either. Just throw a few insults/accusations out...doesn't have to be true....just hope it sticks.
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on June 26, 2005 06:37:29 PM new
Linda: "They make up all this garbage they have no proof of either. Just throw a few insults/accusations out...doesn't have to be true....just hope it sticks."
Like Karl Roves, " "Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers." Conservatives, he said, "saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war."
Which liberals wanted to offer therapy and understanding to our attackers for 9/11? By Roves statement, all Liberals. Sounds like political rhetoric made to further divide this country. I'm waiting to see Rove, Linda, or some other Conservative name all of those liberals who believed that. Talk about a lie that they hope will stick.
posted on June 26, 2005 06:46:59 PM new
Linda, I might add... there are plenty of therapists down in Gitmo providing "therapy" for terrorists and prisoners. Let me guess... It's Clinton's fault.
posted on June 26, 2005 06:53:03 PM new
Didn't get it the first time rusty?
I told you where you could find your info....moveon.org.
And rather than reading a 'bit' read the whole text of what Rove said....he mentioned moveon.org. But of course when the leftie media are trying to do another twist job....they just leave that info out.
I personally think we're going to be hearing more and more from Rove....speaking out about all this garbage the left's been throwing at the President and his supporters. And I'm going to celebrate it each and everytime they do so. It's about time the left is called on their lies.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on June 26, 2005 07:16:35 PM new
Kiara, very funny, your little heads made me smile. Thanks
I am off to a nice Air Conditioned room to read a good book. Must be a lot of linda-link_K's hot air is blowing towards Pa tonight. Its really hot here
posted on June 26, 2005 07:22:46 PM new
If Rove meant moveon.org, he should have said moveon.org. Instead, he referred to "liberals". Get your facts straight Linda.
Linda must be referring to the White House... "They make up all this garbage they have no proof of either. Just throw a few insults/accusations out...doesn't have to be true....just hope it sticks."
Karl Rove, "Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers. Conservatives, saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war."
posted on June 26, 2005 07:29:54 PM new
Kiara- I would say those emoticons are HIGH-LARIOUS!!!
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Linda must be referring to the White House... "They make up all this garbage they have no proof of either. Just throw a few insults/accusations out...doesn't have to be true....just hope it sticks."
Karl Rove, "Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers. Conservatives, saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war."
posted on June 26, 2005 07:35:34 PM new
lol rusty....[shaking my head here]
I do have MY facts straight....it's YOU who takes part of a statement out of context and they tries to imply he wasn't speaking about moveon.org. He was....and that's why he mentioned the 'therapy'. Because they were all wringing their little scared hands that we were going to attack Afghanistan IF they didn't turn over binladen. THEY were the ones questioning the need for us to 'go slow', not rush to war.... to 'understand why we were hated so much'...and to just 'talk' about it. Thus the reference to promoting 'therapy'.
And I suppose you are already aware, rusty, that you are so far left in your political position that most of the democratic party doesn't even support your ideals/positions...they're TOO far left for even them.
But I do notice how the dems whine about wanting Rove to apologize...but have NEVER asked pelosi, kennedy, reid, durbin to do the same. So it's REAL funny when Rove speaks the truth about the dems actions....lack of willingness to go to war EVEN when we were attacked....that they want him to apologize.
Be looking for more of Rove's comments now that this President has been re-elected. I have a feeling he's been more than ready, for a long, long time, to UNLEASH his observations about dem actions.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on June 26, 2005 07:44:59 PM new
LOL...and how could I have forgotten to add howard dean to that list of insulters/liars. He's got the biggest mouth of all of them.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on June 26, 2005 07:53:03 PM new
Hypocrite Linda continues her lies...
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Linda must be referring to the White House... "They make up all this garbage they have no proof of either. Just throw a few insults/accusations out...doesn't have to be true....just hope it sticks."
Karl Rove, "Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers. Conservatives, saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war."
posted on June 26, 2005 08:00:40 PM new
rusty once again says:
If Rove meant moveon.org, he should have said moveon.org. Instead, he referred to "liberals". Get your facts straight Linda.
As I already told you, rusty.....I DO HAVE MY FACTS STRAIGHT....it's you, once again, who is very misinformed.
WashingtonPOST June 24, 2005
In a speech to the New York state Conservative Party on Wednesday night in Manhattan, Rove offered his view of the philosophical differences between liberals and conservatives. He cited the liberal group MoveOn.org and filmmaker Michael Moore, but he criticized only two politicians by name: Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean and Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.).
But as the controversy grew yesterday, other Republicans issued statements in support of Rove that cited such Democrats as Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.), the 2004 presidential nominee; Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (Del.); and Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich (Ohio).
The acrimonious exchanges came just two days after Durbin bowed to Republican-led pressure and apologized for comparing the treatment of prisoners at the Guantanamo Bay detention center in Cuba to techniques used by the Nazis and the Soviets. Together, the episodes underscored the growing harshness and rising political stakes of the debate over national security at a time of declining support for Bush's handling of the situation in Iraq and pressure on him to outline a strategy for success there.
Rove's remarks were reported in yesterday's New York Times and in wire service reports, and by yesterday morning they had quickly exploded into the latest political battle between the parties.
In his speech, Rove said no issue better illustrated the philosophical difference between liberals and conservatives than national security. "Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war," he said in a prepared text released by the White House. "Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers."
Rove went on to say that conservatives wanted to "unleash the might and power" of the military against the Taliban in Afghanistan, while liberals wanted to submit petitions. He cited a petition he said was backed by MoveOn.org that called for "moderation and restraint" in responding to the attacks.
"I don't know about you, but moderation and restraint is not what I felt as I watched the twin towers crumble to the earth, a side of the Pentagon destroyed and almost 3,000 of our fellow citizens perish in flames and rubble," he said, according to the text. "Moderation and restraint is not what I felt -- and moderation and restraint is not what was called for. It was a moment to summon our national will -- and to brandish steel.
"MoveOn.org, Michael Moore and Howard Dean may not have agreed with this, but the American people did."
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Don't suppose I'll be hearing an apology for your FALSE statements about my posts, huh?
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, [b]from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence[/b]." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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posted on June 26, 2005 09:12:03 PM new
An apology??? Do I see any quotes in your message indicating that he SAID, "moveon.org" No. You clearly differentiate with quotation marks what his statement was. According to the information you just posted, it is exactly what I said. "Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war." "Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers."
Your claim is simply NOT there. As I said, if he intended it to be about moveon.org than he should have said "moveon.org" instead of Liberals. He didn't, so quit making excuses about it. Everybody can read his exact words.
Funny, now that his comments are in the news, he is backstepping now. If you want to mixup his actual words with his follow up statement concerning his comments, that is fine. Just don't tell the world that he didn't say what he actually did say.
Personally, I'm glad he said it. It obviously shows that the Bush Administration could care less about a majority of voters who are registered Democrats. The Bush Administration showed their true colors by making a false statement like that. It is people like Linda who eat it up, regurgitate it and defend it. You are quite pathetic Linda. So, so sad... You can't even admit your own lies.
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Linda must be referring to the White House... "They make up all this garbage they have no proof of either. Just throw a few insults/accusations out...doesn't have to be true....just hope it sticks."
Karl Rove, "Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers. Conservatives, saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war."
posted on June 26, 2005 09:20:48 PM new
LOL LOL LOL....now the Washington POST is not to be believed.
figures....lol
Guess I'd have to get a quote from the Moscow Times before you'd ever believe anything. And here I thought the WashingtonPost and the NYT's were the left's Bible.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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