robertsmithson
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posted on September 1, 2002 09:04:38 PM
... and the flaps over auctions that never even made it, auctionCow, auction.Pie and Gegy. 
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YourDesigns
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posted on September 1, 2002 09:30:10 PM
reality1:
I have been a member of Moo probably longer than you have been. I have seen the Bidville clique lose a lot of steam, and if dimview doesn't return, then there is even less for them to post about.
I do believe that we will see less membership, but MORE posting and active members. Already 93 members have signed back up and the majority are active.
robertsmithson:
What is your point? Mootropolis is not an "ebay" site. AW and OTWA BOTH have paid services that SERVE the almighty eBay, so naturally they have more eBay discussions. Mootropolis was nearing 40,000 posts before the switch, all mostly on other auction sites. The purpose behind Moo is pretty much support of third tier sites, not ebay.
It is nice to have a site that discussions about other sites can happen. OOT here at AW is pretty much dead. There is a lot more fun and information going on at Mootropolis.
Whether you agree or not, it doesn't matter. It won't change a thing. Moo is a free site with a lot of nice features. AW and OTWA are not. The only thing "free" is their discussion boards, but so are the ones at ebay for that matter.
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reality1
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posted on September 1, 2002 10:06:39 PM
YD
My aren't you the two-faced one. You RUN over to the MOO and post that I was ripping on the MOO and that I was a fair weather friend. Oh I guess my opinion isn't allowed.
You sure showed your colors.
Wait a second I have to get this knife out of my back.
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YourDesigns
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posted on September 1, 2002 10:13:15 PM
I posted what could not be posted here due to AW's strict guidelines. At least I did not resort to foul language. I never said you were a fair-weather friend, but site supporter. Whenever a site doesn't do what you THINK they should do, then you switch sides again. Very interesting.
It is you that runs over here, not the other way around. I show my support as stated, and stand by it. You on the other hand, disagree with something and suddenly the site is terrble again.
You stay here with the haters, and the few posts per day in this area. Just remember there isn't a MCF over here. 
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reality1
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posted on September 1, 2002 10:37:55 PM
YD
Your real clever. You know I can't post a copy & paste of your quote, so you lie about the fair weather friend post.
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Yourdesigns
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posted on September 1, 2002 11:02:08 PM
I am not lying about anything. I stated that you are a fair weather friend as it pertains to a SITE, not an actual friend. If you misread me, oh well.
Anyway why can't you copy and paste what I stated? I am not the one that used vulgar language in my post. THAT is a fact.
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robertsmithson
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posted on September 1, 2002 11:25:49 PM
The purpose behind Moo is pretty much support of third tier sites, not ebay.
Are you Patty? Isn't the Moo for all online auction sellers/buyers? The very fact that the ebay forum is ignored shows that Moo is full of mostly BV cheerleaders which is exactly what BW stated earlier. At OTWA the online auction sellers/buyers make the ebay form the overwhelming favorite.
Shouldn't the OTWA and Moo members have similar interests? Is the Moo meant to be a niche online discussion board for third tier sellers like you say?
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RB
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posted on September 2, 2002 07:40:33 AM
What turned me off the MOO (refusing to "sign" the new deal was simply a convenient excuse as most of my friends know) was the owner's vendetta against a certain auction venue and the response I got when I suggested that the way this was being conducted was not very professional. I knew it was Patty's board and she politely reminded me that she could do anything she wants with it - my opinion meant nothing to her.
At the outset of MOO, I believed the board wasn't created to become her personal soapbox, but rather the intent was for public discussion. However, in this case, Patty messed up and incited and continued to fuel the certain auction venue riot. For what purpose I will never understand.
If she would only admit that that wasn't appropriate ...
I think the idea of the Mad Cows thing was also not very well thought out. That resulted in all kinds of personal attacks being made by, and against good people who don't even know each other. That kind of thing should be reserved for The Jerry Springer and His Merry Band of Perverts Show.
I also agree that without a certain poster's presence there, the discussions surrounding Bidville could just become civil
Have fun at the MOO guys and gals ...
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emak
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posted on September 2, 2002 08:06:12 AM
For anyone who has not registered at the new MOO, let me mention that this site is going to be FAR MORE than just a place to chat about auction sites. A very interesting fixed-price venue is in the works also. You might just want to check it out.
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Yourdesigns
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posted on September 2, 2002 08:26:53 AM
robertsmithson:
No, I am not Patty.
Your theory that because there is very little posting in the ebay forum at Mootropolis therefore everyone MUST be a Bidville cheerleader is just plain wrong. Are you saying there is ONLY Bidville and eBay?
There are MANY more third tier auction site forums which have posting in them (based upon the previous board, not the current one as everything was reset).
Not to mention that several top posters are ebay sellers. Even Patty herself is an admitted eBay seller. Nothing wrong with that if you want to make money.
RB:
You hold grudges for a long time. Also we should remind people you joined in on that SAME bandwagon attacking and against AuctionDiner and their actions. Editing posts comes in REAL handy doesn't it? Though it doesn't always work like we expect.
I think the majority of people felt that Patty was very calm and reasonable in her defense of her site, and she never stepped over the line. She posted news articles and facts, not conjecture or opinion. You apparently think she did, and naturally have remind everyone of your opinion on the matter at every turn. I guess that is your perogative.
Now you folks have a great time here at AW.
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RB
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posted on September 2, 2002 08:38:43 AM
Hi YD ...
Not that long ... I am back at the MOO
I think it was the high-rise skyline graphic that convinced me to return.
Am I allowed to campaign against the evil eBay bootleggers at the MOO or should I save that for AW?
PS ... I should admit that I did participate in the certain auction venue thread at the MOO ... it was fun just like the bogus Bidville discussions. But, when the lawsuit nonsense was started and fuelled by you-know-who, I lost all interest. Anyone with any knowledge of how the law works had to know that was all bullcra@p, and those who were trying to make readers believe that it was real are bad, bad bridge sellers
[ edited by RB on Sep 2, 2002 08:42 AM ]
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Yourdesigns
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posted on September 2, 2002 09:30:37 AM
RB:
True, it was totally bogus. They filed papers just to scare people, and it did get out of hand on many different levels.
Welcome back to the Moo! You should take your campaign to both places.
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robertsmithson
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posted on September 2, 2002 12:49:53 PM
Someone's got to replace Dimview as chief antagonist.
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kodiheglin
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posted on September 2, 2002 02:20:18 PM
Well this is a wonderful showing for Mootropolis. Not.
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RB
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posted on September 2, 2002 05:33:54 PM
robertsmithson ... not sure who you're referring to.
wrt Bidville, although I don't use the venue (only because of extremely poor management), I have stated on many occasions that I have met and traded with many excellent Bidville sellers, and to those folks I wish the best of luck.
You're late to the game rs, and perhaps need to read the AW archives
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robertsmithson
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posted on September 2, 2002 05:43:58 PM
You knew what I meant RB. You seem to alternate posts of praise with posts of antagonism. All novels, movies, plays, etc. need a character that runs against the grain. Dimview was that player at Moo and I'm certain that you will be an admirable replacement to the rock-the-boat statistican.
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RB
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posted on September 2, 2002 06:45:40 PM
Well, I guess time will tell eh ...
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blairwitch
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posted on September 2, 2002 07:32:21 PM
RB dont say anything negative about bidville and you will be ok there.
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RB
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posted on September 3, 2002 04:51:17 AM
Yes Mom 
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RB
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posted on September 3, 2002 06:30:04 AM
No, I am not Patty
For the answer to this and other pressing questions of the day, visit Mootropolis. Be sure to stop in and say hello to the good folks at auctionpie while you're there
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yourdesigns
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posted on September 3, 2002 07:53:36 AM
Uh, Buzz, as stated over at Moo, I have nothing to do with AuctionPie, as I just FOUND the site by reading a Krause newsletter. Then I went on to find things even MORE hilarious about AuctionPie and it's "venue". You were reading my cutting and pasting from some threads there. Joke deluxe.
Oh, and folks, dimview returned to Moo. So the let the anti-bidville sentiments begin.
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robertsmithson
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posted on September 3, 2002 08:29:07 AM
Oh, and folks, dimview returned to Moo. So the let the anti-bidville sentiments begin
I wonder why? Dimview must get off on making the BV Clique angry ( especially Dim's favorite cheerleader and arch enemy ) and feel vastly superior to them when debating. That's a hell of a hobby.
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RB
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posted on September 3, 2002 08:33:08 AM
YD ... then there are two (at least) posts over there made by you that need to be edited. You have signed one of them "Jamie" and the other with "Jamie" and his real last name
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yourdesigns
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posted on September 3, 2002 09:18:46 AM
Buzz:
I did edit them for the seeing impaired. However, if you read the original posts you will see they are signed QUOTES from Jamie, not by me. My sig line is just below that. Perhaps I didn't make it clear enough, but now it should be as I edited the posts.
I probably should have included the headers from the postings and that would have helped.
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RB
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posted on September 3, 2002 09:49:20 AM
YD ... I see it now. I don't think posting the headers et al is really necessary. Just quote the source so that others don't make the same incorrect assumption that I made
Sorry ...
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blairwitch
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posted on September 3, 2002 12:51:45 PM
I looked over the forums today and the big mistake was not moving older topics to the new board. There was some good material besides the constant bickering. Its going to take alot of work to build this up, but the big question I have is will this happen again?
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robertsmithson
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posted on September 3, 2002 01:25:21 PM
It a way it is very good that Moo made everyone re-register.
You can compare the old Yahoo free email system to MicroSoft's free HotMail system. Yahoo would prouldly boast of having 150 million registered members, while in reality most of those numbers were from throw away email accounts that were long forgotten or ignored.
Hotmail has had strict rules about maintaining the email account with a visit once a month or losing the account. Therefore Hotmail's accounts numbers were much more accurate then Yahoo's.
Ebay boasts of 50 million users but most of those are dead accounts. BV may have a very small number of sellers but at least they are willing to pay $5/yr to sell so their numbers are much more credible than ebay's..
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yourdesigns
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posted on September 3, 2002 03:55:32 PM
For once I agree with Robertsmithson. It is good that we had to re-register as there was several issues including a lot of dead accounts, and those that people had multiples on.
There was a lot of good information on the old board, and some of it might be brought back to the new one, but no word on that for sure yet. There is also a Reviews section that can hold articles and a links database that can help build the "content". I imagine over time these two items will have much of the same information that was posted in the threads in the forums, and much more.
As for the boards rebuilding, there is already 681 posts (in basically two days), and growing rapidly, and 118 registered (114 in two days) users with 74 of them active (active meaning they posted on the board). It will quickly surpass many of the smaller discussion sites, and be right back on track to building to a higher level.
I also think with the modifications that they have made internally we will see less multiple accounts.
Time will tell, but at least we have Buzz back.
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blairwitch
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posted on September 4, 2002 07:08:06 AM
I signed up in support of the moo. The ignore feature should cool things off there.
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YourDesigns
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posted on September 4, 2002 10:58:59 AM
BW, LOL!
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