posted on October 2, 2000 01:48:40 PM new
My middle school student child understands what it means to cheat and steal, as do I, and that this issue involves The Golden Rule, do unto others, etc.
These are such simple concepts in ethics. There are those who are blind by choice, and those who are blinded by affliction. I can't determine which category your refusal to "see" that you are taking what is "not yours" falls under. It doesn't really matter, I guess.
You never did tell us whether you always give the sellers your maximum bid because it is due them. May I guess the answer is a firm, "no"?
posted on October 2, 2000 01:59:12 PM new
Ah yes, the proletariat. I should have realized sooner
At NO point did I say that I shill, or even sell anything on Ebay for that matter.
You are evidentally incapable of having a simple philosophical debate, since you continually blur the line between rhetoric, hypothesis. and actual occurence.
Perhaps your middle school student can teach you something about debate strategy and technique.
posted on October 2, 2000 02:15:29 PM new
When I bid on an item, I don't worry about shilling. I place my proxy bid and don't look at the auction again until it's over. No fuss, no muss, no aggravation. Life is too short to worry about someone else "cheating" me out of a few dollars on an item if I know that item is worth what I'm willing to pay. I know what I'm willing to pay for an item and that's what I bid. Simple.
This is the reason that I won't drive 20 miles across town to save $10 on a $100 item even if I know that a store across town has it cheaper. If the item is worth $100 to me, I won't waste my time and energy trying to save $10.
posted on October 2, 2000 02:34:21 PM new
Jeff, what proletariat do you mean? I'm not a member of the Christian Coalition just because I know the Golden Rule.
Shilling falls under cheat/steal/fraud/lie/manipulate/flimflam/hustle/scam.
I never, ever said or implied you shilled. I did imply you couldn't see the forest of logic for the trees of greed.
Now, about giving those sellers your maximum bid, the one that belongs to them by "droit de seller"....
1) you do give them your max bid price
2) you don't give them your max bid price
To be logically consistent, you should choose #1, but I will understand if you choose #2.
[ edited by switch on Oct 2, 2000 02:35 PM ]
posted on October 2, 2000 05:36:40 PM new
I have had enough.
All I really wanted, was to see how long this stupid conversation could be dragged out. Five (5) pages is definitely more than I had expected.
Of course shilling is wrong.
Duh.
The challenge is not in arguing something that is right, it is in arguing something that common sense would tell you is wrong.
One more thing.....
I am Shiller.
How ironic it is that the people who get booted from here often start threads that many users gravitate to. God forbid that these message boards have any entertainment value whatsoever.
posted on October 2, 2000 08:51:27 PM new
jeff5050,
From your post above:
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"One more thing.....
I am Shiller."
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Your posting privileges have been revoked since you admit to being shiller and you re-registered under this I.D. while the I.D. shiller is under suspension.
