posted on August 20, 2005 11:46:16 PM new
Pearls of Wisdom from one of the other "greiving" mothers.
"We're asking for a meeting with the president, period," said Michelle DeFord, whose 37-year-old son, Sgt. David W. Johnson, was in the Army National Guard from Oregon when he was killed in Iraq last fall. "We don't want to debate with people who don't understand our point of view."
The one asking for the debate lost a son in Iraq also. Just doesn't share their sentiment.
posted on August 22, 2005 10:52:19 AM newdoesn't share their sentiment.
That's right....and now it's looks like those who also had/have their family members serve in the war against terrorist....the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq ....are beginning to get organized themselves to speak out and against what the pro-saddam, anti-war, anti-American's are saying.
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I will post the link as I have edited out a lot of the article....
Backlash Against Cindy Sheehan Gains Momentum
By Randy Hall
CNSNews.com Staff Writer/Editor
August 22, 2005
(CNSNews.com) -
Cindy Sheehan has announced that she plans to return "very soon" to her anti-war vigil in Crawford, Texas. When she does, she'll find she has some company, according to the conservative group leading the "You Don't Speak for Me, Cindy" tour.
Move America Forward, a national organization "that supports American troops and the war against terrorism," is leading the tour, which begins Monday morning.
Heading the delegation is Deborah Johns of Northern California Marine Moms, whose son, William, has served two tours of duty in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
The caravan kicks off in San Francisco, where Melanie Morgan of KSFO 560 AM will lead her listeners.......
"For the past few weeks, this nation has heard from those voices in America who advocate surrender in the war against terrorism," said Morgan, who also serves as chairman of Move America Forward. "Now, it's time to hear from the other side of this debate.
"We are going to rally Americans together to show the terrorists overseas that our nation has not lost its resolve nor its nerve to prevail in the fight against their violent, extremist agenda," Morgan added.
When the caravan arrives in Sacramento, Calif., it will stop at the.....
"Since our region of northern California is the place Cindy Sheehan calls home, we owe it to the nation to present another voice from this area," Williams said. "That's why Deborah Johns, the Marine mother, and I are heading to Crawford, Texas.
"We have a message for the president and the American people: Now is not the time to pull our support from the heroic mission our sons and daughters are serving in Iraq," Williams noted.
Talk show host Martha Zoller......"I'm going on the tour because of the American heroes who have lost their lives in the global war on terror," Zoller said. "Casey Sheehan is an American hero, and he had to live with the knowledge that his mother didn't understand what he was doing....he had to die with that knowledge, too.
"The media has elevated Cindy Sheehan as the voice of those families who have lost loved ones, but Cindy Sheehan speaks for a very small minority. We're going to tell the rest of the story now," said Zoller.
Also traveling from the Atlanta area is retired Lt. Col. Buzz Patterson (U.S. Air Force)...... He just returned from Iraq as part of the 10-day "Voices of Soldiers" tour.
"Our troops serving in Iraq made it very clear that they believe in their mission," Patterson said. "We must stand by them now, for if we don't, we will only embolden the terrorists who are doing everything they can to weaken America's resolve."
"Free Republic is proud to support the 'You Don't Speak for Me, Cindy' Tour, and we are excited about joining the caravan to Crawford, Tex.," said Jim Robinson, founder and president of FreeRepublic.com.
"Our troops are fighting for our freedom and our very right to exist, and they deserve all the support we can possibly give them," Robinson said. "God bless them one and all."
Starting Wednesday, Move America Forward will begin airing a 60-second television commercial promoting the "Support Our Troops & Their Mission" rally in Crawford, Tex. The ad is expected to air nationwide on cable news networks or can see seen at the group's website.
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Hopefully this will start more speaking out against those who really don't support our troops in their missions.....hopefully this will begin to show the families of our fallen soldiers their children didn't die in vain. And hopefully more American's will speak about about if they think the terrorists are just going to 'go away' if we meet their demands and give up our believe in democracy being a good thing for all people. Rather than what the radical Muslims/Arabs have planned for the world.
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So while some here might be supporting old ani-American jane fonda in her 'vegetable gas' trip across the US, doing what she does best....supporting our enemies once again.....this beginning of those who do support American democracy will also be traveling across the US...speaking out for our democracy...speaking out in actual support for our troops and our American policies against terrorism.
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
[ edited by Linda_K on Aug 22, 2005 11:02 AM ]
By Mike Allen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, August 22, 2005; Page C01
CRAWFORD, Tex., Aug. 21 -- Camp Casey, which started with one mom and a grievance, mushroomed over the weekend into a massive settlement with a party tent for 2,000, a shuttle-bus service and an elaborate catering operation that deposited a 26-foot-long refrigerator truck, generators, and restaurant-quality ranges and warming ovens in a field next to President Bush's ranch.
The hippie crowd that originally was drawn to Cindy Sheehan's protest is still in town -- activists from Food Not Bombs are sleeping in an old school bus that has been painted sky blue and can be started only with jumper cables. But now they have been joined by liberals from throughout the West who are double-parking their hybrid-fueled cars to take part in a peace protest with a budget that is $120,000 and rising.
The grassy field is so close to the president's property that he and his entourage were photographed from there as he bicycled last week before the hordes arrived. Parking attendants wear reflectorized orange vests.
"It's kind of like if Woodstock was really organized," said Chris Voigt, 51, an architect from Fort Worth who was volunteering in the spacious kitchen tent, scraping a frittata pan. "The war's over. Somebody needs to tell Bush."
Voigt was surrounded by pallets of Ozarka bottled water, cases of Sterno gel chafing warmers, 52-ounce tubs of Folgers coffee and six-pound cans of Bush's Best pinto beans. Green-pepper trimmings were composting nearby, and recycling boxes were overflowing with discarded plastic.
The camp includes nine Port-a-Potties but no shower. About 150 protesters have been sleeping in tents or their cars. The rest come for the day, or stay at motels half an hour away in Waco.
"Sorry to Interrupt, Mr. President," says one of the many posters tacked up at the encampment. "But Our Soldiers Are Dying!"
"82 Troops Killed While Bush Goes Fishing," jeers a sign on the side of a U-Haul truck parked by the camp's organizers near Crawford's main crossroads.
None of the visitors to Camp Casey appeared to be local. Yard after yard along the roads leading to the camp is staked with signs such as "Freedom Isn't Free" and "We Support Our Commander in Chief," and scattered Bush supporters set up a counter-rally that they called "Camp Reality."
Canaan Baptist, a weathered wooden country church where the president has attended Easter sunrise services, sits across a narrow road from the peace camp. A parishioner from the neighborhood, Dave Cunningham, closed out this morning's service by praying for the president and his family, for the troops -- and for patience with the onslaught of demonstrators.
Sheehan is still in California tending to her mother, who suffered a stroke Thursday. But Sheehan's supporters said they expect her to return this week, and organizers are making plans to keep the Camp Casey sleep-outs and eat-ins going until Bush returns to Washington shortly before Labor Day.
Sheehan set up camp after Bush declined her impromptu demand for a second meeting to discuss the death of her 24-year-old son, Casey, in Iraq last year. Some in the White House viewed Sheehan as a partisan who could be dismissed: She had appeared on Capitol Hill at the behest of Democrats to discuss the "Downing Street memos" and has charged that Bush "killed" her son. Bush did not agree to a second meeting in part because he had met with her last year during a visit to a military base. He said in remarks last week that he sympathizes with her. He has been mostly out of sight since then, although he rode his mountain bike for 70 minutes in 101-degree heat Sunday.
The sprawling Camp Casey makes it clear that, at least for the moment, Sheehan has produced something larger than herself. Aided by professional publicists and event planners, she has become a logo for opposition to Bush and to the country's attack on Iraq, with minivans marked "Cindy shuttle" ferrying out-of-towners along dirt farm roads that adjoin what Bush has called his "little slice of heaven."
"The whole nation was waiting for a catalyst," said Linda Loden, 57, of Dallas, the line cook in the kitchen. "The best part is that this whole thing is matriarchal: Men are coming up to the women and saying, 'What can I do to help?' "
Folk singer Joan Baez gave a free concert Sunday night for a crowd of 500. The whistle-blower Coleen Rowley -- who retired from the FBI in December after alleging the Bureau had mishandled intelligence before the 9/11 attacks -- was giving interviews amid the camp's rows of 264 white wooden crosses. Each cross has a pair of rubber bands holding a slip of paper bearing the name of a member of the military who has died in Iraq.
The chaos has transformed Crawford (population 705) to the point that at the edge of town, visitors are now greeted by a blinking highway department sign that says, "Heavy traffic ahead. Drive slow."
The protesters are split into three locations. The Crawford Peace House, next to the railroad tracks downtown, is organizing the protest and is decorated with such slogans as "Who Would Jesus Bomb?" The small encampment where Sheehan's followers started, about five miles from Bush's ranch, remains. The main camp -- featuring the white tent, which is so big it has eight peaks and is known to the White House press corps as the "Cirque du Soleil" -- is just outside a Secret Service checkpoint at the back of Bush's ranch.
John L. Wolf, who owns a stage-scenery business in Dallas and runs the Peace House, said about 5,000 donations have come in through the PayPal service used by the group's Web site, and about 1,000 more people have written checks on the spot. He said the average donation was $20 and the biggest was $2,000. He said no corporations or nonprofit groups have made major contributions. He said about $60,000 has been spent so far, most of it this weekend.
"People are putting things on their own credit cards," Wolf said. "When people fly in, we tell them: Don't rent a car. Rent a van, and drive a shuttle!"
An Austin television producer is making a movie about it all, titled "Bushstock 2005."
For a crowd of peace activists, many seemed angry. Andrew J. Weaver, 58, a Methodist minister from Brooklyn, N.Y., who led a brief outdoor service in a clerical collar and a colorful stole from Guatemala, said he wanted to move into the shade before giving an interview. "It's like a near-death experience, here in this sun," the minister said. "Think this is a taste of eternity for George?"
The huge and hungry press corps that covers Bush is gathered eight miles away from his ranch in the gymnasium at Crawford Middle School, and perhaps the real surprise is that no group had figured out how to capitalize on that to the degree that Sheehan's followers have. Wolf said he has not thought that far ahead, but the scale and success of Camp Casey suggest that the Peace House or other groups might try similar extravaganzas during future Bush trips here, such as when he plays host to world leaders on his 1,600-acre property.
The first wave of campers has name tags that mark the number of days they have been in Crawford. One of them is Ann Wright, 59, of Honolulu, whose tag sported 15 hash marks, like an inmate counting down his sentence. She plans to stay until the end of Bush's vacation. "If the president doesn't come out by then," she said, "that ends his opportunity."
posted on August 22, 2005 12:19:42 PM new
LOL....hippies is right.....old rejects from the '60s. Those who NEVER agree with American policies. But they sure enjoy what they receive from our democracy.
Not going to answer my question, maggie. About where maggie stands. Or were you saying that we should just return home and wait until the terrorists attack the US again?
Or do you not believe what binladen and his followers say....that UNTIL such time as all infidels are converted....or removed from the UK and the US....that their goals remain the say?
Do you truly believe that if we withdraw from Iraq that will end the terrorists goals for those countries who support democracy?
And do you also agree with cindy sheehan's position which, imo, was very anti-semitic???
Do you agree with her statement that 'this country is not worth dying for?'
Or will it be another time when the anti-war people refuse to answer DIRECT questions put to them....while they post dancing all around the DIRECT questions?
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 22, 2005 02:18:10 PM new
"The camp includes nine Port-a-Potties but no shower."
Well that stands to reason-they probably figured these ass-holes dont take showers anyway.
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Golfer:Stop checking your watch all the time,its too much of a distraction.
Caddy:Its not a watch, its a compass
posted on August 22, 2005 04:06:50 PM new
Hey Linda_K, the 1960S/70S saw protester to the Viet Nam war. In 2005 we are seeing protesters to the Iraq war.
In Viet Nam America lost 50,000 American troops by "staying the course".
Now in 2005 tell me what adjectives America gained in Viet Nam for those 50,000 young American lives.
Today in the Iraq war we are up to 1864 American lives lost. By "staying the course". But unlike the 1960S/70S America's biggest war protest will come in the voting booths in 2006. YES!!!
BTW I realize this is off subject. Did you see where Colin Powell's son just got a 2 million dollar a year job. His new job comes from a large investing company that invests in all form of public communications among other things. Yes that's right the same type of company he was suppose to be a watch dog over while head of the FCC. Looks like another disgusting Repug payback to me and others.
