WashingtoneBayer
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posted on September 13, 2005 06:42:31 AM
It's just a friggin' chat board...
So you think that gives you free reign to sit behind your monitor and say whatever you want?
Helen says she is here for friends, but you say it is just a "friggin chat board" so you seem to not care about making friends as it seems to you that none of this is real and all fictitious.
So if the Internet is not important to you, why use it?
Chat rooms are part of life, whether you want to believe that or not. If you want to be fictitious then that is your privilege but then people should be aware your words have no backing or meaning as they mean nothing to you.
Ron
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kiara
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posted on September 13, 2005 06:51:50 AM
Not many people on the west coast retire before 8:00 pm, dblfugger. Remember, lots of work, lots of fresh air and lots of fun during the day topped off with a clear conscience will help you sleep really well most nights. 
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kiara
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posted on September 13, 2005 07:14:00 AM
Washingtonebayer, if some of you want to make friends here that's fine by me. If this is your only form of communication in a day that's fine by me.
And yes, whether I feel like popping in now and again or sitting here for a week at a time I will give my opinion just as everyone else seems to do. I'm not about to change the way I am or what I believe in just to please a few people here who become offended if I disagree with them or don't like Bush as much as they do.
Have I ever said anything that has permanently damaged your psyche or anyone else's for that matter?
If you want to be fictitious then that is your privilege but then people should be aware your words have no backing or meaning as they mean nothing to you.
Isn't almost everyone here fictitious? I don't see much personal info on anyone, including you. 
[ edited by kiara on Sep 13, 2005 07:16 AM ]
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Helenjw
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posted on September 13, 2005 07:51:59 AM
My classification of those reasonable and agreeable posters as "friends" should not be interpreted as an attempt on my part to garner support or fulfill a need for friendship. I only mentioned the word "friends" and suddenly poor readers have assumed that my goal is to make friends on a chat board --- a spin that is not exactly true. I have no special need for friends since I have friends and family all over the world. The truth is that here I find characters that cannot be found among my real life friends. Where in the world but here can you see the monstrosity of someone who really believes in genocide or racism or radical right wing, tight-ass Republicans who resemble fascists.
[ edited by Helenjw on Sep 13, 2005 07:58 AM ]
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Helenjw
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posted on September 13, 2005 08:05:22 AM
"Isn't almost everyone here fictitious?"
Not everyone - but a little paranoia is advisable.
[ edited by Helenjw on Sep 13, 2005 08:06 AM ]
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kiara
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posted on September 13, 2005 08:13:41 AM
This is the most ridiculous statement said here:
So if the Internet is not important to you, why use it?
For me Vendio is just part of 'the internet' each day as I primarily use it for business. The RT is a diversion that I enjoy. Fenix summed it up well on the first page when she said, "It's a damn message board." along with the rest of her message.
Yesterday whenever I took a break to eat, this thread was fluff compared to a topic on genocide.
Helen, I agree a little paranoia is advisable.
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dblfugger9
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posted on September 13, 2005 09:56:59 AM
fenix fenix fenix - what do you have crush on fenix these days? Is that your new obsession to monkey repeat after?
More likely it is just that contrary to your statements as miss little independant thinker, you cannot make a post on your own without trying to cull the support of somebody else into it.
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kiara
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posted on September 13, 2005 10:17:29 AM
dblfugger, years ago someone said to me that it's just a friggin' chat board and I found it amusing.... and it is comparable to 'it's a damn message board'.
And unlike you, just because I agree with a statement someone said here, it does not mean that I have a crush on them, that I obsess over them or that I will latch on and start following them and fantasizing their daily life.
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dblfugger9
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posted on September 13, 2005 10:22:45 AM
hahaha! Well, that didnt take long.
... So much for being busy out on the road!
unlike you...have a crush on them, that I obsess over them, or that I will latch on and start following them and fantasizing their daily life....
No, VERY MUCH like you! Exactly your MO! Go run along now and find your newest craze.
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kiara
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posted on September 13, 2005 10:26:21 AM
I'm sitting here taking another break and waiting for the guys to return with the truck so I can help load it again. What are you doing today besides obsessing in your little mind over what I do and say?
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on September 13, 2005 10:27:09 AM
...deal with the consequences
I liked that part of her statement. Can have so much meaning.
But on the other hand if you are not willing to meet face to face and repeat what you say here, what does that say about you?
Ron
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dblfugger9
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posted on September 13, 2005 10:28:05 AM
What are you doing today?
Sorry kiara, I cant bolster your fantazing about me. You'll just have wonder, that is, if your not snooping behind my auctions still.
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kiara
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posted on September 13, 2005 10:44:10 AM
Washingtonebayer, I said the RT is a diversion for me. I get along with all the people I meet and know in real life. Why in the world do you think I would want to start going places and meet some people from this board in real life who don't agree with my point of view?
Gotta run....... the guys are back.
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Linda_K
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posted on September 13, 2005 10:50:20 AM
Ron - Imo, it means they would most likely NOT act as they do here when face to face....for many reasons.
But I'm afraid, as we can see, that went right over kiara's head/ability to grasp.
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kraftdinner
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posted on September 13, 2005 11:24:15 AM
Are you the new Amy Vanderbilt of etiquette on the RT or something, Ronnie? Kiara does just fine here and always manages to get the right all geared up with her honesty. Some people have a hard time with honest opinions. Do you too?
[ edited by kraftdinner on Sep 13, 2005 12:24 PM ]
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kiara
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posted on September 13, 2005 12:21:05 PM
lindak, I have the ability to grasp what you don't seem to. I would have no problem telling someone in real life that I don't approve of Bush. Is that so bad or so offensive?
My point is that anonymous ones here speak of genocide, promote war and use hate speech, have wrongfully accused me of auction interference, showed coffins they would like to see some of us in, have reported others over lace hankies and have continuously cried over a little name-calling.
Why in the world would I want to go out of my way and become involved with them in real life if they sound that whacko on a message board or have beliefs that are so radical to mine? Aren't these the kind of people your mother would warn you to stay away from, let alone meet in real life from a chat board? 
Kraft, I guess they think I should post here and lie and pretend I really approve of Bush and then they'd feel better? Not sure what they want.
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kraftdinner
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posted on September 13, 2005 12:30:21 PM
That's a good point, Kiara. Does everyone want conformity? Would that make some of the people here feel safer with their opinions?
[ edited by kraftdinner on Sep 13, 2005 12:32 PM ]
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kiara
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posted on September 13, 2005 12:42:52 PM
Kraft, conformity with everyone toeing the party line and praising their leader each day ...... nodding and agreeing on all issues would be very boring but maybe that's what they prefer and they would feel more comfortable here.
Or maybe they think that only name-calling from them should be tolerated.
I think it's a control issue and they are upset that they can't control me or the way I choose to post. I guess tattling to Vendio about me hasn't worked either.
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Helenjw
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posted on September 13, 2005 12:49:56 PM
Does anyone know what happened to the thread, "Should Genocide be an Option?" While I was out for a couple of hours, it disappeared!
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kraftdinner
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posted on September 13, 2005 12:54:36 PM
Kiara, I just can't imagine how weak a country would be if everyone felt the same way about their leaders. Where would the checks and balances come from? The right to dissension is one of our best freedoms, imo.
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piinthesky
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posted on September 13, 2005 01:06:49 PM
Helen's right, the thread, "Should Genocide be an Option?" is gone. What was said in there that was sooo offensive to have it pulled like that and who got the boot for it??
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kiara
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posted on September 13, 2005 01:08:03 PM
I agree that it's one of our greatest freedoms, Kraft. And the diversity of opinions and topic matter on any message board such as this is what makes it interesting for all.
I don't know what happened to the thread, Helen except that Vendio obviously must have removed it either because they read it and didn't approve or because someone complained. I didn't get around to reading it all so don't know who or how anyone was posting to it yesterday or today.
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Helenjw
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posted on September 13, 2005 01:14:32 PM
Perhaps Vendio recognized it as obscene and unacceptable to discuss genocide.
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kiara
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posted on September 13, 2005 01:18:42 PM
From Vendio's user agreement:
1.1. Limits on Use. You agree to follow the directions of Vendio staff members. You agree to use the Communication Services only to post, send and receive messages and material that are proper and, when applicable, related to the particular Communication Service. By way of example, and not as a limitation, you agree that when using a Communication Service, you will not engage in any of the following:
f) Discrimination. Publish, post, upload, distribute or disseminate any topic, name, material or information that incites discrimination, hate or violence towards one person or a group because of their belonging to a race, a religion or a nation, or that insults the victims of crimes against humanity by contesting the existence of those crimes.
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Helenjw
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posted on September 13, 2005 01:22:38 PM
Good!
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on September 13, 2005 01:24:27 PM
I don't have a problem with a difference of opinion, what I have a problem with is making your opinion a personal attack against me.
That should be easy to understand.
Ron
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on September 13, 2005 01:26:09 PM
I have a feeling they will be following the guidelines a bit closer now.
Ron
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kraftdinner
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posted on September 13, 2005 01:26:21 PM
It was still and interesting thread. Made me realize who did way too much acid when they were younger.
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piinthesky
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posted on September 13, 2005 01:28:55 PM
Ok, maybe it did violate the CG's but who snitched?
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on September 13, 2005 01:30:01 PM
Kiara you overlooked one:
e) Abuse. Defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others
Ron
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