posted on October 28, 2005 07:49:43 AM new
Hi Helen. I think you misunderstand me. I did not call the drug addicts the rotting wood. Drug addicts and suppliers alike are doing the dance together...
posted on October 28, 2005 08:30:09 AM new
I agree, Colin. There are good arguments on both sides of this issue and Dbl presented her side without personal attack included. I especially appreciate that.
Although we don't agree, I understand and appreciate her argument.
posted on October 28, 2005 09:55:31 AM new
You have a point Ron.
People will always choose to harm themselves.
The problem with the suggestion of making it legal is many that would never use illegal drugs will give them a try. After all, our government is making sure it's safe.
posted on October 28, 2005 10:52:25 AM new
Colin, prescription drugs are available to most people and are legal, yet I don't see people lining up to give them a try. Codiene is legal here in Canada, but again, I don't see a rush at the drug stores for it. Doesn't it just all boil down to education?
posted on October 28, 2005 11:52:42 AM newI used alcohol to show the hipocracy of laws making some drugs legal while others are not and because i feel that if some are illegal then they all should be.
Yeah, make all drugs illegal. What would you take when you are sick?
If you don't remember there already were constitutional amendments concerning the legalization of alcohol.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on October 28, 2005 11:58:51 AM newThe government is already involved.
This is true also, Ron.
Kraft, dont you have to go to a doctor to get a prescription? Are there any regulations the doctors are responsible to adhere to in Canada?
I'm pretty sure there's some that can just go to a doctor, get a script, and get their drug of choice, but that isnt exactly legal let alone ethical on the physicans part, is it???
Maybe you dont see people in Canada lining up to buy codine, but kids here are doing stuff with sudafed and other products. (I dont know what the deal with that is, but it was on the news not long ago. I didnt watch the whole thing, but it seems to becausing some alarm.)
Feels mighty weird to get a compliment from Helen and Colin in the same day/same thread!! I think I'm gonna go play the lottery or something today...!! (Actually just returned from some yard sales...and wow did I find some good stuff today! Only problem is I dont want to sell it....I want keep it. But thats another addiction topic.)
posted on October 28, 2005 12:25:29 PM new
Of course there are regulations here Double - my point was that there are ways to get precription drugs now but most people wouldn't even think about doing them. I don't think that would change if they became legal.
posted on October 28, 2005 12:41:07 PM new
kraft, what do you mean there are ways, but most people would not even try to get them?
Thats just it. There are ways, but they are not easily obtained. These things are not advertised or marketed to people, they're Illegal. You just made my point without even realizing it...
But make it legal and then what? How many times have you bought something in a store because its been marketed to you in an appealing way? Now because you do ebay sales or whatever you may be more aware of it, but most people are not. You think if they ever did this, legalization, it wouldnt turn into just as much a money making cash-cow thing? I just cant see where it all goes from there as doing anything worthwhile. Govt controlled highs. Think about it. More people try it, do it, then its entirely acceptable. Does that make sense for drugs? I hate to keep making the comparison, but to me its like when tobacco and cigerattes were freely marketed to the public. There was the biggest incidence of people smoking back then because it was marketed as glamourous,fun, cool, whatever...
posted on October 28, 2005 01:05:16 PM new
"Codiene is legal here in Canada, but again, I don't see a rush at the drug stores for it. Doesn't it just all boil down to education?"
It's Codeine BTW.
oxycontin is prescription drug also and I understand the most abused in the US and Canada.
You seem to be under the assumption only well adjusted, educated people will do these drugs if they are legal?
Amen,
Reverend Colin http://www.reverendcolin.com
posted on October 28, 2005 01:26:24 PM new
Alcohol is legal why aren't the streets littered with drunks. According to your posts the abuse should be rampant.
[ edited by hillbillymo on Oct 28, 2005 01:27 PM ]
posted on October 28, 2005 02:06:07 PM new
At what point is a person abusing alcohol one, two or three drinks. If alcohol abuse is rampant and it is accepted in society. Why are the majority so concerned about other addictive drugs being legal. No, I don't believe it is rampant or you would see evidence everywhere indicating such. Certain segments of the population will experiment or habituate/abuse drugs regardless of the legality.
[ edited by hillbillymo on Oct 28, 2005 02:10 PM ]
(Actually just returned from some yard sales...and wow did I find some good stuff today! Only problem is I dont want to sell it....I want keep it. But thats another addiction topic.)