posted on November 16, 2005 07:19:57 PM
fenix - Thanks....I'm too old to be meeting many of your #1's. But #2s and #3s are plentiful. Men act like they're scared to death of anything emotional....want to keep it purely sexual. And it's just very much surprised me I guess.
I guess even though I think Dowd is a nutcase....this was a subject that got me thinking about relationships and what people really want out of them.
Like for me, from the book review I really couldn't tell if she [Dowd] was speaking as a successful woman who pretty much has it all....except a man....and is feeling something was/is missing in her life....OR ...if she was saying she DOES have it all and could anyone explain why men are really necessary in this day and age.
posted on November 16, 2005 07:28:44 PM
parklane - That's true....
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dbl - Treasure all your days with him. I think that's the most wonderful thing in life....to be living with your best friend, lover and life-mate.
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And as for YOU, piinthesky... classic answered that pretty much in his post....is that all you think you have to offer a woman? [And where in the world you ever came up with that picture....LOL LOL LOL
posted on November 16, 2005 08:07:18 PM
Pi, youre so hung up on those ti**ys maggimuggins has no "t"'s in it!, Silly boy! But I think Image mugger suits her well.
Linda, i think I have always been fortunate to have a good lover, boyfriend, friend - male, in my life. There's certainly times I could do without one around me, but I wouldnt want to for too long. (Just now he wanted something and I am - where else? - on the computer - he got a little snippy with me wanting it right now but all got done. And I told him "you know what your problem is - you, mr, are very impatient." So now he is lying on the couch elbow up, hand on head, watching a movie, and you know what he tells me back? "Alright!" lol!! Its all very simple now that what he needed done is acomplished - I can tell him whatever I want. It's like he could care less!) Men generally do not hold grudges for long. That is the either the most appealing or exasperating thing about them!
Fenix, yah, thanks. Now I remember that. I dont think they do that anymore? Just yesterday I was on the ebay boards looking for some info and I saw them saying pinks, and I hadnt seen that in a long time.
posted on November 16, 2005 08:32:12 PM
LOL...that picture was awful, pi! Hedonistic puppy love at its worst! haha! You know, I am afraid to click on your links anymore!!!
Did ya hear that cow theme song?! (What the hell are these people doing out there in Utah doing anyway?)
posted on November 16, 2005 08:44:24 PM
Dblf, that was/is a crazy website but what i have to wonder is why you have it bookmarked or how you found it in the first place. What...were...you searching for when you found that? LOL
posted on November 16, 2005 08:46:51 PM
Linda, they all learned that from their fathers and Frank Sinatra - For what is a man, what has he got? If not himself, then he has naught - To say the things he truly feels, and not the words of one who kneels..The record shows I took the blows, and did it my way!
Did ya listen to that cow song? (ya have to click on one of the images to hear it!)
posted on November 16, 2005 08:48:34 PM
Pi, I keyed impatient in google to see if by chance, umm.. perhaps I spelled it wrong - it came up 1st in the search and I clicked on it.
They really love their cows man! rofl!!
posted on November 16, 2005 11:54:15 PM
MY such an obsession she keeps a backlog of files !!:
""Looks to me like you have your OWN weird way of dealing with your own personal problems.
crowfarm [aka mingotree] posted on November 7, 2004 06:04:36 PM
[i]Maggie your """microcephalous, hairy-livered
inbred trout-defilers[/i]. ""
was a work of art! My inflatable husband is laughing his butt off. """
If you really want to read that as Mingotree having personal problems, of course there's nothing stopping you from assuming things about others...
But ...you won't want to hear this ...my husband is not plastic...he's very real and alive
Now, since you were so brave as to answer my post in here, how about answering the questions you've been too chickenship to answer:
Does your god, which you defend so vehemently, advocate torture and genocide like you do?
posted on November 17, 2005 01:09:27 AM
Of course men are necessary and they're more fun to have around than females.
If all they want is sex it means that they find you have nothing else to offer them so their minds don't go beyond that
or maybe you're choosing ones not too bright to begin with
or you're fishing them from the adolescent pool while they still have raging hormones.
Most intelligent men want to be stimulated in the brain and not just the body and that's how you attract them and keep them interested ..... it works both ways.
posted on November 17, 2005 03:55:10 AM
"Linda, i think I have always been fortunate to have a good lover, boyfriend, friend - male, in my life."
Jesus DB,I thought we were going to keep this a secret!! By the way, is hubby home or has he gone snake hunting in the artic like you told me the last time.
"Men generally do not hold grudges for long."
Of course we dont, we like getting laid-ya think we're stupid?????
"To say the things he truly feels, and not the words of one who kneels..The record shows I took the blows, and did it my way!"
I think Dad can relate to that
" MY such an obsession she keeps a backlog of files !!:
""Looks to me like you have your OWN weird way of dealing with your own personal problems.
crowfarm [aka mingotree] posted on November 7, 2004 06:04:36 PM
[i]Maggie your """microcephalous, hairy-livered
inbred trout-defilers[/i]. ""
was a work of art! My inflatable husband is laughing his butt off. """
LOL crowfart-like you've been doing for the last two years to everyone else.Now that you've been had and someone has turned the tables on ya....tell me, HOW DOES IT FEEL BUNKY???
"my husband is not plastic...he's very real and alive"
Dowd's book is about sexual politics. The most remarkable aspect of your thread is that you are taking the title of the book, "Are Men Really Necessary", seriously.
posted on November 17, 2005 06:47:15 AM Artistic Expression at its best
Well, yes, that it is, too. Did you ever see that documentary about that guy who photographed naked people all over the world? One part that really struck me was a woman who said she saw her body transform from aids, and felt the experience was a totally freeing moment for her. To me, that was artistic in its essence.
Classic, what are you talking about? I send all my boyfriends to the artic so they come back pre-boner-ed and ready to go You know, I was a little afraid you were gonna get upset by the tete-a-tete with Pi and I. But i'll never tell our secrets, darling..will take this thing to the grave alone; or at least until the cows come home
Pi, I dont know what it is about that song. Must be the sheer goofyness of it - makes me smile n laugh. I listened to it twice today already! hahaha! I would think it should appeal to Helen,since you say you are always tugging at her teats. (wasnt there a cheese at one time called impatient cow, btw?)
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So Helen, what is your take on the sexual politics then? I think that is a question many women CAN ponder literally in this day and age. If youve got everything you need and want without a man, ... is it necessary to commit to a long term (and most often involving compromise) relationship?
posted on November 17, 2005 07:26:54 AM
Dbl, The question has already been answered by KD.
KD said, "Maybe the question should be, are people necessary. I happen to love men - all of them. My closest friends have always been men because they're more honest without all the emotional attachment that women put on things (too high maintenance)."
posted on November 17, 2005 07:36:04 AM
You know what Helen? I used to subscribe to that line of thinking too. But its really not true - and more often just reflects the mental and emotional immaturity of the woman thinking it. They cant have a good relationship with other women because they're emotionally infantile like alot of men. I'm sorry, I have always had good men friends, too, but men can really be big jerks sometimes - way way more than women.
posted on November 17, 2005 07:54:39 AM
I think that you are exaggerating the number of jerks, just as linda exaggerates the number of elderly men with no agenda other than sex. Linda, as usual makes her sweeping generalizations based on a tiny sample and concludes that since a few elderly men are interested only in sex with an elderly woman that therefore all men are unnecessary?
BTW...dbl...you appear to be denying your answer on page 1.
posted on November 17, 2005 08:23:11 AM
Sitting here laughing to myself at how much FUN helen would be having had it been ME who admitted to having an inflatible, plastic husband, rather than CF/MT/LB
posted on November 17, 2005 08:48:02 AM
I am not denying my answer at all. I love my guy and would not want to live without him, or without the love that I feel for him. That is what I find necessary.
And I am not exaggerating one thing here. You and KD want to say women friends are too high maintance or whatever...but the real truth is there's no sexual or emotional blackmail involved with woman friends, so you dont get to get what you want all the time. And youre the big baby because you want and use men to feed your infantile ego because they are just much stupider and easier to manipulate than woman are. When a woman is being a jerk, she knows 'exactly' what the payload is going to be. Whether its to another woman or a man. Men can (and are) jerks without even knowing it; or caring what the payoff might be. That is the big difference in my opinion.
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[ edited by dblfugger9 on Nov 17, 2005 08:52 AM ]
Men act like they're scared to death of anything emotional....want to keep it purely sexual. And it's just very much surprised me I guess.
classic answered that pretty much in his post....is that all you think you have to offer a woman? [And where in the world you ever came up with that picture....LOL LOL LOL