posted on November 20, 2005 09:08:34 AM new
HAPPY THANKSGIVING...OVER 2,000 DEAD
and you're whining:
By CHRIS TOMLINSON
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - An ambush on a joint U.S.-Iraqi patrol northwest of Baghdad left 15 civilians, eight insurgents and a U.S. Marine dead from a roadside bomb and the firefight that followed, a U.S. military statement said Sunday.
The attack began Saturday with a roadside bomb detonating next to the Marine's vehicle in Haditha, 140 miles northwest of Baghdad, the U.S. command said.
Fifteen Iraqi civilians also were killed by the blast, which was followed by an insurgent shooting attack, the statement said.
"Iraqi army soldiers and Marines returned fire, killing eight insurgents and wounding another," the statement said.
A later statement said a U.S. soldier was killed by small-arms fire while on patrol north of Baghdad. No other details were provided.
At least 2,092 members of the U.S. military have died since the war began in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count. The toll includes five soldiers who died Saturday in a pair of roadside bombings near Beiji, 155 miles north of Baghdad, and a soldier who died in a U.S. hospital in Germany from injuries suffered Thursday when his vehicle was rammed by an Iraqi car near Beiji.
Britain's Defense Ministry also said Sunday that a British soldier was killed and four were wounded in a roadside bombing near Basra in southern Iraq. Basra is the main base for British forces in the region.
The death brings the number of British troops killed in Iraq to 98, the ministry said.
At a U.S.-backed reconciliation conference in Cairo, Egypt, Sunni leaders are pressing ahead with demands that the Shiite-majority government agree to a timetable for withdrawing all foreign troops.
In Washington, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said on ABC's "This Week" that commanders' assessments will determine the pace of any military drawdown. About 160,000 U.S. troops are in Iraq as the country approaches parliamentary elections Dec. 15.
The Pentagon has said it plans to scale back troop strength to its pre-election baseline of 138,000, depending on conditions. Rumsfeld said the U.S.-led coalition continues to make progress in training Iraqi security forces, which he placed at 212,000.
posted on November 20, 2005 09:08:52 AM new
The original discussion that provoked the terrible attack was about Bigpeepa's sales and according to him he is doing well.
Once again this proves my point about sharing any personal info about yourself on this board (such as a health condition).
There are unstable posters who will grasp any tidbit and use it against you in the cruelest way they can if you ever disagree with them on any topic such as politics or business.
Jealousy and envy can provoke a terrible attack. My advice is that if it happens to you, consider the source.
posted on November 20, 2005 09:27:05 AM new
Go away sneaky kiara. The alltime User of all posted information! I have given my love-taps out already today to helen...today's not your day, dearie.
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[ edited by dblfugger9 on Nov 20, 2005 09:30 AM ]
posted on November 20, 2005 10:00:38 AM new
Translation - I have no legitimate response and know damn well that I have gone about as lopw as one can so I am going to run away now cover my ass by playing self righeous.
You should know by now Dbl - the self righteous card has become your tell.
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posted on November 20, 2005 10:12:48 AM new
Nope, no honey for you either fenix. Go hose yourself down or pop a gazillion pills for all that ails you. Ya momma dont love you and neither do I. Sorry.
posted on November 20, 2005 10:24:12 AM new
nah, helen. I am very choosey who I give my soul-awakening information put to. I dont care for stragglers and hanger-on'ers. You wanna dish it - get your own issue.
posted on November 20, 2005 10:39:40 AM new
The bottom line here....all you democrats...is that YOUR party DIDN'T VOTE TO WITHDRAW OUR TROOPS.
Gutless...those representatives of yours....all except the three who had the courage to vote to bring them home immediately.
They represent you...and they failed you...failed to do what you wanted them to do.
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And from the WA Times today:
"As long as I am commander in chief, our strategy in Iraq will be driven by the sober judgment of our military commanders on the ground," he said. "When our commanders on the ground tell me that Iraqi forces can defend their freedom, our troops will come home with the honor they have earned."
The president's audience, representing all branches of the armed forces, roared its approval.
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To me our soldiers actually there fighting on the ground...and their comanders opinions carry a TON more weight than all the whining democrats here or in the whole US.
And THESE soldiers roared with their approval...support for their CIC.
And just remember....your party failed you once again.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on November 20, 2005 10:42:19 AM new
President Bush I think lives by this credo:
"Better to be hated for who you are than to be loved for who you are not."
posted on November 20, 2005 10:46:43 AM new
::Gutless...those representatives of yours....all except the three who had the courage to vote to bring them home immediately.::
Personally, I think they voted for what they felt was right rather than play into some silly game of desperation played by the GOP. Although most feel it is time to pull out, a six month hard and fast immediate and complete pull out is unrealistic. Of course the GOP knew that which is why they changed the the parameters of what Murtha when they wrote their little bill. The only thing it reinforced is the desperation of the GOP.
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posted on November 20, 2005 11:07:03 AM new
So what will they do for jobs when they all come home,I remember when they came home from Viet Nam you couldn't buy a job anywhere. I know there are no jobs around here,where I work they haven't hired for two years. They took me and my husband back because we have worked for them before.
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posted on November 20, 2005 11:11:55 AM new
SO SOME OF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT DBLFUGGER9 SAID TO ME ABOUT CANCER. HERE IT IS BELOW.
dblfugger9
posted on November 18, 2005 01:50:47 PM
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yes creepa, I WANT TO BE a Carcinoma-cancer-ridden angry old maniac like you!! You got me!
Sheesh! Give you a minute of attention and it goes on and on and on and on,
posted on November 20, 2005 11:12:08 AM new
I disagree fenix.
AGain the gutless dem wonders didn't have the backbone to vote according to what they've been whining about this whole time.
This vote was non-binding...so basically it wouldn't have changed a thing. The ONLY way this war can be ended is by a decision of the President...or IF Congress closes the purse strings tightly...and there's no funding to fight it.
They've done neither....but the dems STILL didn't have the courage to vote the way they CLAIM they want to see.
Your argument about maybe some wanted it not done so quickly....fails in that...if that were the case...then they're REALLY saying/supporting the exact same thing THIS President has said....when they can defend themselves.
The gentleman you mention has been against this war from the beginning. I've read several of his quotes from 2002...he opposed it even then. He's just ONE representative...out of over 500(?) so his voice/opinion is NOTHING special...and doesn't speak to the majority of what HIS OWN party want to see done.
posted on November 20, 2005 11:25:50 AM new
Everyone recognizes that vote as a Republican stunt. Now, the Bush administration is virtually paralized.
Until recently, only Democrats seemed to struggle to find their voice on Iraq, while Republicans were virtually united in backing Bush's policies. But when the 2,000th U.S. military death there coincided with troubling revelations about prewar intelligence and Bush's plunging approval ratings, Republican cohesion began to fray.
Political developments in Iraq, such as the adoption of a new constitution, cannot overcome the impression left by the daily reports of suicide bombers and the milestone of 2,000 deaths among U.S. servicemen, pollsters and political analysts say.
Public opinion has, in turn, emboldened Democrats to sharpen their attacks, and it has freed some Republicans -- especially Northeastern moderates -- to chart a new political course that separates them from the White House but wreaks havoc with the GOP's legislative agenda.
"The central new development is the decomposition of the president's support in Congress," said Ross K. Baker, a Rutgers University congressional expert. "I think there is a very acute realization on the part of Republicans that they no longer can hitch their careers to his popularity. That, combined with the new aggressiveness by the Democrats, means you're seeing basically a Bush agenda that is largely being derailed."
posted on November 20, 2005 11:56:34 AM new
I think it was a BRILLIANT move on the part of the GPO....and part of it's purpose was to stop the dems from spending the next two weeks of their vacation....going on and on about how we should withdraw from Iraq.
All can now see, by their own votes, they didn't really mean it at all. IF they were in control....they'd be leaving our troops on the ground UNTIL it was safer to leave. WHICH as I've said...is exactly the plan this WH has.
They failed you....no matter who you wish to pretend they didn't.
NO guts....dems....it's taken away any tiny bit of credibility they had before....when they were using the withdrawal as a means to get at this President.
Only THREE held to their convictions....they should be 'knighted'....as the only TRUE democrats left in the House.
Whereas Congress and the American People have not been shown clear, measurable progress toward establishment of stable and improving security in Iraq or of a stable and improving economy in Iraq, both of which are essential to "promote the emergence of a democratic government";
Whereas additional stabilization in Iraq by U, S. military forces cannot be achieved without the deployment of hundreds of thousands of additional U S. troops, which in turn cannot be achieved without a military draft;
Whereas more than $277 billion has been appropriated by the United States Congress to prosecute U.S. military action in Iraq and Afghanistan;
Whereas, as of the drafting of this resolution, 2,079 U.S. troops have been killed in Operation Iraqi Freedom;
Whereas U.S. forces have become the target of the insurgency,
Whereas, according to recent polls, over 80% of the Iraqi people want U.S. forces out of Iraq;
Whereas polls also indicate that 45% of the Iraqi people feel that the attacks on U.S. forces are justified;
Whereas, due to the foregoing, Congress finds it evident that continuing U.S. military action in Iraq is not in the best interests of the United States of America, the people of Iraq, or the Persian Gulf Region, which were cited in Public Law 107-243 as justification for undertaking such action;
Therefore be it
1) Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in
2) Congress assembled,
3) That:
4) Section 1. The deployment of United States forces in Iraq, by direction of Congress, is
5) hereby terminated and the forces involved are to be redeployed at the earliest practicable
6) date.
7) Section 2. A quick-reaction U.S. force and an over-the-horizon presence of U.S Marines
8) shall be deployed in the region.
9) Section 3 The United States of America shall pursue security and stability in Iraq
10) through diplomacy.
Republicans took Murthas's version, gutted it and rewrote the entire plan
posted on November 24, 2005 07:43:14 PM new
And now for another round of the cat fight....
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