kraftdinner
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posted on December 3, 2005 01:55:34 PM
Pi, what Maggie said shows she felt Linda turned it around to be something shameful, not her. I highly doubt Maggie's picture (I didn't see it) was shameful.
Were any of you around when annie posted pictures? Now that was shameful! 
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piinthesky
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posted on December 3, 2005 01:59:47 PM
First off, piinthesky I was not 'demanding' anything. I asked nicely in a quiet voice and I did also say 'please' so perhaps you are reading much more into what I say and how I say it.
Perhaps i did percieve your request differently, however, when a person asks another for something several times, without a response then it can be construed as being a demand. Especially if the person doing the asking continues to make statements such as, And I notice you have no link to show me Maggie talking about being regretful or feeling shame. and In other words, you have no link to show me Maggie saying how she feels. Just like all the other times but yes, you did say 'please' and ask in a nice, quiet voice.
Hopefully lindak appreciates your effort in trying to help her out with this.
I did it for you as well as for Linda but i guess you don't appreciate my effort.
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Linda_K
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posted on December 3, 2005 02:06:05 PM
What's the matter KD....you can't read and comprehend either?
My two statements on the last page are very easy to grasp.
And if either you, kiara or helen are trying to say I don't have a right to give back just a portion of the insults maggie's given to me.....
then picture me laughing at all of you big time.
If she can deal it out...then she should be able to take it. And she sure as hell has NO problem giving it out.
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kraftdinner
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posted on December 3, 2005 02:15:55 PM
Linda, where have I ever stated you are not allowed to give back whatever you've been dished? I only stated that Maggie posted she felt you were the one that turned her picture into something shameful when that wasn't her intent.
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piinthesky
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posted on December 3, 2005 02:18:30 PM
Yes Kraft, those were Maggie's thoughts and perceptions of how she felt about it but she also went on to embellish her thoughts with false perceptions of how she felt others viewed her actions, based solely on another's words about her actions and that was wrong of her to do that.
Personally, i didn't think her picture(s) were offensive or anything to be ashamed of but i can only speak for myself on that, others will have to make up their own minds about it.
Good to see you back here, in the boosum (sp) (pun intended) of the ones that understand you and no matter your political leanings still get along with you.....sorta.
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Linda_K
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posted on December 3, 2005 02:21:58 PM
KD - Why is it that both YOU and KIARA seem to think you can speak for what maggie does or doesn't feel? But when I actually post I don't know what feelings she's having trouble dealing with...then kiara goes on her game playing routine.
you guys crack me up.
THIS ALL started with me reading what Red had posted about statements gingersnap make that were similar to one of our posters here.
THEN I said I recognized that those are words maggie uses all the time. Which she has admitted to in this thread. Poor RED did absolutely nothing ....didn't even mention maggies name and yet she accuses him of 'attacking' her.
That's what started maggie back on to her little jabs about my love life. She was pissed that I said I believe SHE is the poster gingersnap.
I have a right to say that....just like all the other posters who were guessing/who always guess at who someone is.
But when I do it....boy the leftie hens here sure get their feathers in a fluff. It's okay for ANYONE else to do the same...just not me.
Well.....that's just not going to happen, no matter who gets pissed off about it. Deal with it.
[ edited by Linda_K on Dec 3, 2005 02:45 PM ]
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Linda_K
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posted on December 3, 2005 02:26:17 PM
Also, KD - I HAVE stated I find her posting her breasts on a chat board shameful. IF she has a problem with that she can learn to deal with it...just like the rest of us have to do when someone says how they feel/what they think.
She's acting like a child....and all of you, while denying it, ARE speaking for her. She's supposed to be an adult...and I believe she can and does speak for herself without all her little followers telling us what SHE thinks of what I said.
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kiara
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posted on December 3, 2005 02:27:22 PM
I did it for you as well as for Linda but i guess you don't appreciate my effort.
piinthesky, it was a simple request that lindak was unable to provide because there is no link that shows Maggie feeling shame or regret like lindak claims. That's why I kept asking while she tried to worm her way out of it.
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Helenjw
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posted on December 3, 2005 02:29:34 PM
Linda, You have stated it...OK. But why keep stating it over and over and over? Nobody cares what you think about Maggie's breasts. It was not a pornographic photo.
We "dish it out" to you only because you are constantly provoking everyone with nasty insults and false statements. If you would just shut up every now and then you would see that no one goes after you. We are responding to YOUR crap.
[ edited by Helenjw on Dec 3, 2005 02:30 PM ]
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kraftdinner
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posted on December 3, 2005 02:30:12 PM
"...but she also went on to embellish her thoughts with false perceptions of how she felt others viewed her actions, based solely on another's words about her actions and that was wrong of her to do that."
OK, I see what you're saying now. I've been taking large doses of Valium the last few days... not that I've been intimidated by anyone or anything lately. 
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kiara
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posted on December 3, 2005 02:30:58 PM
But I sure didn't see you ragging on maggie for ANY of her comments SHE EVER made to me. Nope....but then again that speaks to your personal character.
lindak, I choose to post exactly what I wish to and fight any battles I choose to. Defending you when others insult you is not something I choose to do so don't ever expect it or rag on me for not doing it.
Thank you.
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Linda_K
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posted on December 3, 2005 02:42:28 PM
LOL....helen and kiara are back at it again.
What's the matter, helen.....you didn't want to deal with your statement on otwa where YOU called Colin our trash. ... but you want to stick your nose in this and speak for maggie too?
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kiara - You just plan won't ever get anything. You're not based in reality....you're lost out there somewhere in la la land.
It's obvious to anyone that maggie was upset....SHE even commented on what she was upset about. That you refuse to acknowledge what SHE said...and would RATHER offer your own distorted 'take' on it....it nothing I can change. It's your problem
THIS is the statement I made that you STILL can't grasp.
What you aren't getting kiara, is that everyone IS entitled to make their own moral judgements here. Yes, I did and I've never denied that. Imo, for a married woman to seek attention the way she did - I do find it morally lacking....I'd bet her husband might find her actions upsetting too.
But it is SHE who is having a problem dealing with the choices she made....not me. She is the one who needs to deal with her own issues of shame, regret, or whatever she may be feeling. It's HER problem to deal with.
I think that's pretty darn clear. The fact that you hens wish to continue this nonsense is typical.
[ edited by Linda_K on Dec 3, 2005 02:50 PM ]
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kraftdinner
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posted on December 3, 2005 02:50:58 PM
Linda, the only thing Kiara and Helen are guilty of is trying to understand why you're going on and on about Maggie's boobies. We all get it - you thought it was shameful and nobody else did.
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Linda_K
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posted on December 3, 2005 02:55:27 PM
Now you're going to speak for helen and kaira, huh KD?
LOL - How funny.
And get this...just as all of you do, I will bring up what I want, as often as I want and you're just going to have to deal with it. Because I'm not interested in your little groups 'double standards' ... one rule for all of you...a different one for me.
I'm not playing your game....just as those on otwa said they could see the game playing you did over there.
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piinthesky
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posted on December 3, 2005 03:07:06 PM
Helen, Kiara, Kraft, just curious about something, did any of you pick up on what NTS was doing yesterday evening with her asking mingo the same question over and over and over again?? I admit that i didn't see it right off myself but what it appeared to me that she, NTS was doing was illustrating, through imitation of mingo, how mingo does the same thing to others on a constant basis and she gets away with it. I must say that NTS did a great imitation of mingo's style and my hat is off to her for it.
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dblfugger9
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posted on December 3, 2005 03:16:31 PM
I have a question. If there was nothing to be ashamed of why did she take it down in a matter of minutes? Why bother posting it at all if theres nothing wrong with it?
Maggie is a nasty piece of blob. I have nothing to say to her and have ignored her for awhile already. She puts my name in there just because she likes grouping things like her friggin dollies:Now you kiara krafty helen over there; and you dbl linda pi etc etc over there. There! ooooo smileys Maggie's a happy girl! ::eyeroll::
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kiara
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posted on December 3, 2005 03:19:00 PM
Yes, Kraft! No one else seems to think it's shameful except lindak.
kiara - You just plan won't ever get anything. You're not based in reality....you're lost out there somewhere in la la land.
lindak, ya I guess I'm in la la land because I don't worship at the Bush alter as you do or view others from such high moral ground as you imagine yourself to be sitting on.
Heck, why not just admit you got jealous about the attention Maggie got? And now you want to play victim again. It's the same thing over and over. You going to trot out that little blue sad face again? lol
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Linda_K
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posted on December 3, 2005 03:28:49 PM
LOL kiara....oh yeah...now you're going to bring Bush into this again. How typical of you.
If maggie can hand it out she'd better learn to take it. Won't be any different on any other board. She's just another old grandma....who is so desperate for male attention that she stooped that low and now obviously has some negative feelings about it being mentioned.
It's not your problem kiara....it's hers. But as usual you have to get in there and stir the pot just a little more to add a little 'fun' in your own life. How sad for you.
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Linda_K
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posted on December 3, 2005 03:30:26 PM
doll collector...hmmmmm
the name aurorah rings a bell too now.
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kiara
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posted on December 3, 2005 03:37:57 PM
I never said it was my problem, lindak.
It's not me seething with jealousy because someone else showed a picture of an ant bite, is it?
It's not me whining for weeks on end about someone else showing a picture of an ant bite, is it?
It's not me making moral judgments about others showing a picture of an ant bite, is it?
Seems like you're the one with the problem, lindak.
But I understand. Really, I do. I posted here because I found it amusing and I admitted that upfront.
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Linda_K
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posted on December 3, 2005 03:44:36 PM
Here's another reality you most likely won't be able to comprehend either, kiara.
When this first started maggie posted her statements and said she was leaving....and then I posted mine.
It's been YOU mostly, then helen and KD a little who have prolonged this topic by butting in and trying to speak for maggie.
Could have ended a long time ago....but that's not part of how you three play your games.
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classicrock000
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posted on December 3, 2005 03:46:53 PM
"Yo! Classic!
Where's da boobs?
Did I miss sumptin here?"
yea Tom ya did
maggie had an insect bite on her right boob.I requested she post a pic of it here so we could inform her what kind of insect it was.She posted it here for a short time.She had a bra on,so she wasnt naked or anything like that.I wanted to use it for a screen saver,but if my wife ever saw it,she would have hung my balls in the garage.But I gotta tell ya,it was the most beautiful insect bite "classics" ever seen
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Beauty is only a light switch away
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kiara
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posted on December 3, 2005 03:55:50 PM
I'm not speaking for Maggie, lindak.
Bottom line, Maggie said something and you interpreted it your way to say that she feels shame and regret and I don't see it that way and there is nothing linked here to show me otherwise.
You made moral judgments about what she did, I didn't. You didn't approve and went on and on about it for weeks.
Classic liked it and is still smiling. LOL
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Linda_K
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posted on December 3, 2005 04:00:00 PM
Yes, kiara, I can see others don't agree with my own, personal moral code. That doesn't bother me one bit. I'll never be part of a group that thinks since most or all think anything is okay...then I'll just follow alone so those who disagree won't constantly make me their target.
I have broad shoulders and am a grown-up with my own set of morals. And yes, it appears they are higher than yours.
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kiara
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posted on December 3, 2005 04:13:21 PM
How is anyone making you a target, lindak?
And you think you have higher morals than me because of what? Hey, if I get bent out of shape like you did over someone showing a boobie shot with a bra on will my morals climb up to your level?
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Linda_K
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posted on December 3, 2005 04:21:18 PM
Well...guess I'd answer that by saying unlike how you give 'passes' to anything a leftie says here....anything....you don't show that same 'tolerance' for me...or others on the right.
Get this kiara....maggie said she was leaving and she said why. Part of that is because she felt she was being 'attacked' by several posters here.
As I said....if she's going to hand it out, and she does, then she can either learn to take it herself...or leave as she's stated she's going to do.
Now...are you and I finished.....or can't you release your pittbull teeth from my rear.
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kraftdinner
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posted on December 3, 2005 04:26:10 PM
Linda, I'm not speaking for Helen or Kiara. I can see, by reading their posts, that they too are wondering why Maggie's picture has got you so wound up. And from your posts, I take it that your moral high ground includes not looking at shameful pictures of body parts and tattling. No one is disputing you should have the right to feel that way.
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Linda_K
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posted on December 3, 2005 04:30:53 PM
I'm really running out of patience for you two. You just can't see that if YOU GUYS had stayed out of all this....I wouldn't have had to repeated answer ALL of your comments....THUS running up my score that you, maggie, helen were so hopeful would be higher than helens.
Had you guys just chosen to leave my comment to maggie alone.....it would have all ended there.
But you'd rather imply, FALSELY, that I'm all upset over this, when I'm not. It's all of you who have been making the HUGE deal out of it.
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kraftdinner
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posted on December 3, 2005 04:32:49 PM
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kiara
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posted on December 3, 2005 04:32:57 PM
I'm smiling here, lindak. No attack on you whatsoever whether you choose to believe that or not.
Well...guess I'd answer that by saying unlike how you give 'passes' to anything a leftie says here....anything....you don't show that same 'tolerance' for me...or others on the right.
As I said, I choose what I respond to here and if you think it reflects on my moral character, so be it. It goes both ways. IOW, you fight your battles and I'll fight mine. Que sera sera.......
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