posted on December 27, 2005 02:46:08 PM new
I'm not the one that jumped into something that did not involve me, made a huge deal out of simple request for common courtesy, and then in a childlike show of defiance reposts the offending part of the article because the person that was actually being adressed might actually honor the request.
I made a simple request. I have had no reaction regarding "not getting my way" because Linda, who I made the request of has not responded. You are the one that made it into a big issue. You are acting like a complete fool but as you have shown in the past, that's not exactly new.
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Never ask what sort if computer a guy drives. If he's a Mac user, he'll tell you. If he's not, why embarrass him? - Tom Clancy
[ edited by fenix03 on Dec 27, 2005 02:50 PM ]
posted on December 27, 2005 02:52:45 PM new
You made a request for censorship. But I guess that is beyond your understanding. That is the issue I take umbrage at. Get over it, if reading a little spoiler ruins a movie for you, then it sucks to be you.
What she has posted is nothing new has floated on the internet since the movie came out.
I don't care much for your postings how about deleting them.
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
posted on December 27, 2005 02:56:03 PM new
LOL - Ron, just think if they get upset THIS easily over a posting of a commentary of this movie.....just think what the next three years will bring. They're already going off the deep end emotionally....and with three more years they're just not going to make it out of this administration still sane.
Fenix - I have no idea why it's okay for the left to post their views about this movie....but I do and you start up with another raging fit. Not sure why....reviews are all over the internet.
Guess you just didn't find THIS review favorable. That's the way it goes.
posted on December 27, 2005 03:08:53 PM new Fenix - I have no idea why it's okay for the left to post their views about this movie....but I do and you start up with another raging fit. Not sure why....reviews are all over the internet.
I dont view fenix as having a raging fit. She seems very calm and matter of fact to me. In fact, Ive never seen her having a raging fit let alone another one.
posted on December 27, 2005 03:10:20 PM new
Linda - please note that I did not ask you to remove the article as a whole. I made no comment whatsoever about the opinions expressed in it. What I asked is that you remove the synopsis section that tells people everythingg that happens in the movie.
I can't believe that anyone would consider that request to be censorship. It's simple common courtesy. You don't blow the movie or reveal the end of the book without warning people that that is what you are doing.
I honestly don't believe that can't you understand the rational there or believe that the request was unreasonable or somehow driven by some political philosophy. I simply asked a a movie goer.
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Never ask what sort if computer a guy drives. If he's a Mac user, he'll tell you. If he's not, why embarrass him? - Tom Clancy
[ edited by fenix03 on Dec 27, 2005 03:11 PM ]
posted on December 27, 2005 03:20:11 PM new
NO fenix - I have NO plans to edit the commentary article I posted. There is no reason to do so.
JUST like there would be no reason for anyone to want to censor the story line so others might read what they're 'pushing' in that movie....and might decide they don't want to go see a movie that is pushing a gay agenda.
We're still ALL FREE to post what we want here....UNTIL the pro-censorship liberals decided to pass a law saying differing opinions aren't allowed any more.
But it hasn't happened yet....and many have and still ARE reviewing this movie.
I'm sure when you see the movie you'll have your own 'take' on it and might share it with others.....as I have chosen to do here....because I won't pay to see it. And I'm sure I don't stand alone in that choice.
posted on December 27, 2005 03:22:48 PM new
Jesus Linda - All I was asking is that you not post the part that tells people that a main charachter dies. Or at the very least - Warn them that you are posting a spoiler.
Was that really so much to ask?
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Never ask what sort if computer a guy drives. If he's a Mac user, he'll tell you. If he's not, why embarrass him? - Tom Clancy
[ edited by fenix03 on Dec 27, 2005 03:23 PM ]
posted on December 27, 2005 03:37:07 PM new
Linda - Do you really think that the negative opinion of a reviewer offends me? i didn't write the story, I didn't buy the rights, direct it or finance it. Of course there are going to be people that don't like it. There were people that didn't gone With the Wind either. A negative review does not change my ability to enjoy a movie and everyone is entitled to voice their opinion.
On the otherhand, what does ruin a movie is knowing the outcome of the one of the characters before the opening sequence ever runs. That is the only thing that I was asking be changed in your post.
Why would I write a reviewer from WND becaue they wrote a negative review of a movie that deals with a "liberal" issue. Of course they are going to write a negative review. It would never have been printed otherwise.
What do you mean when you say that I will not accept your answer?
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Never ask what sort if computer a guy drives. If he's a Mac user, he'll tell you. If he's not, why embarrass him? - Tom Clancy
[ edited by fenix03 on Dec 27, 2005 03:38 PM ]
posted on December 27, 2005 03:53:23 PM new
ROFL,
Linda don't you find it funny that you did answer and they can't recoginze that you did answer. Because it was not what they wanted to see.
fenix here let me make it simple: No.
After reading the synopsis, it is your typical lover story only with 2 guys, nothing real exciting in the plot lines.
One character dies and it appears the other will live out the rest of his life alone and miserable.
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
posted on December 27, 2005 04:16:06 PM new
Ron - I think you are seeing only what you want to see.
Linda at first, probably because she read your "oh god, she's trying to censor opinions that she does not agree with" misrepresentation, believed that I was asking her to remove review aspects of the movie. I don't blame her for believing that. I would not have the right to do that. She would have be correct if that was in fact what I was asking.
What I also see is that when I pointed out the exact part that I was referring to and that it had nothing to do with a pro gay story line or some subliminal subversive message but was a simply a rather dramatic aspect of a charachters storyline, agreed that maybe it was not asking too much that it not be revealed.
I think it bugs the hell out of you that Linda and I, for the most part, are able to vehemently disagree with each other and still be civil so you just have to try to create as much muck and subterfuge as possible.
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Never ask what sort if computer a guy drives. If he's a Mac user, he'll tell you. If he's not, why embarrass him? - Tom Clancy
[ edited by fenix03 on Dec 27, 2005 04:17 PM ]
posted on December 27, 2005 04:20:54 PM new
Oh, so calling me names is civil? and I have not done in kind is uncivil. Wow that is some twisted double standard.
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
posted on December 27, 2005 04:43:48 PM new
Ron - I said that Linda and I are civil to each other. Linda is also intellegent enough to recognize that asking that a major plot twist not be revealed or at least not revealed without some warning to people that want to see the movie is not condoning censorship.
You on the other hand jumped in and tried to turn a very civil request into something that anyone with a modicum of intelligence could see that it was not.
You showed that you either
a) Do not possess the same level of intellence or common sense or
b) Do realize that but are so blinded by your bigotry that it does not matter and you will attempt to obscur the point in any manner possible in order to cast negativity not only on the movie but on those that do not object to it.
In either case, you portrayed a level of ignorance that I saw no reason to ignore. I called a spade a spade.
The only difference between what you did and what I did is that you tried to sneakily imply that I was doing something I was not trying to do and I came straight out and said what I thought.
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Never ask what sort if computer a guy drives. If he's a Mac user, he'll tell you. If he's not, why embarrass him? - Tom Clancy
[ edited by fenix03 on Dec 27, 2005 04:44 PM ]
posted on December 27, 2005 05:04:02 PM new
Thanks for the posts Linda and Ron,
Who besides a gay male or sick female would want to see this sh*t? (picked that word on purpose)
I'd figured it was an "in your face film" just like Queer's for the straight guy, and the rest of the "queer" TV shows.
They try to push their agenda to the main stream as if its been accepted all along. Just like the marriage crap. When one gay person gets the other, same sex partner pregnant, Then and only then maybe Ill think about the possibility of their marriage.
Amen,
Reverend Colin http://www.reverendcolin.com
posted on December 27, 2005 05:35:07 PM new
You know all those sterotypes about inbred, dense, not the brightest bulb in the marquee, good ole boy republicans? The two of you make me wonder if they really are just sterotypes.
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Never ask what sort if computer a guy drives. If he's a Mac user, he'll tell you. If he's not, why embarrass him? - Tom Clancy
posted on December 27, 2005 07:45:56 PM new
I haven't seen the movie, I'm not much into Westerns, but when it comes out on DVD, I'll rent it for my hubby to watch. He loves Westerns!
posted on December 27, 2005 11:54:18 PM new
Maggie The Wicked
Fenix, all stereotypes have a basis in reality....and here you see it first hand
And don't you love the way the neoconjobs keep talking and talking and talking about something they find soooo distasteful
[ edited by mingotree on Dec 28, 2005 12:21 AM ]
posted on December 28, 2005 06:44:14 AM new
You mean like how you libs are actually closet bigots?
Yes Fenix has shown that is not such a myth.
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
posted on December 28, 2005 07:28:21 AM new
Ron, you are the kind of guy who delights in offensive labeling of others but yelps like a stuck pig when someone reciprocates by calling you a name.
posted on December 28, 2005 04:06:47 PM new
"to call a spade a spade"
(Phrase Origins)
is NOT an ethnic slur.
It derives from an ancient Greek expression: _ta syka syka, te:n
skaphe:n de skaphe:n onomasein_ = "to call a fig a fig, a trough a trough". This is first recorded in Aristophanes' play _The Clouds_
(423 B.C.), was used by Menander and Plutarch, and is still current in modern Greek. There has been a slight shift in meaning: in ancient times the phrase was often used pejoratively, to denote a rude person who spoke his mind tactlessly; but it now, like the English phrase, has an exclusively positive connotation.
You are the one that assigned a racially derogative meaning Ron. Not I
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Never ask what sort if computer a guy drives. If he's a Mac user, he'll tell you. If he's not, why embarrass him? - Tom Clancy
[ edited by fenix03 on Dec 28, 2005 04:07 PM ]
posted on December 28, 2005 11:56:21 PM new
'Brokeback Mountain' a Box Office Success
Updated 2:28 AM ET December 29, 2005
Who's afraid of a couple of gay cowboys? Not moviegoers, who helped "Brokeback Mountain" post the highest per-screen average over the film-flush holiday weekend.
The Ang Lee film, which follows the 20-year forbidden romance between two roughneck ranch hands, earned $13,599 per theater, compared with $9,305 for weekend winner "King Kong" and $8,225 for "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe."
The big question is whether "Brokeback" can maintain its momentum as it moves from selected cities, where audiences are receptive to the subject matter, to suburbs far and wide, where that might not be the case.
Early numbers and early awards buzz establish the picture's staying power, industry insiders say. "Brokeback" earned a leading seven Golden Globe nominations.
"It delivered very strong growth in what is truly a highly unforgiving, competitive, cruel market at this Christmas period," said Jack Foley, president of theatrical distribution for Focus Features. "It showed it has breadth beyond the gay community."
posted on December 30, 2005 02:59:05 PM newToday, the powerful cowboy image is being used to sell us on another self-destructive product: homosexual sex and "gay" marriage.
I knew Linda could not resist putting her two cents in. More bigoted comments that come out of her Christian mouth.
Yes another movie that promotes the gay agenda How exactly is promoting the gay agenda? Because it is showing two straight men - married I might add - having a love affair?
I suppose the Japanese Geisha movie promotes the Japanese agenda??
How about all those Disney movies promoting the family agenda??
I suppose Passion of the Christ promoted the Christian agenda??
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on December 30, 2005 03:02:13 PM newDo you have something against people making money?
If you dont like the movie then dont see. The director of the movie has a right to make money as well.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on December 30, 2005 03:03:53 PM new
LOL....oh yeah....Linda's just SO bad...so terrible for posting a summary opinion piece of this gay movie. tsk tsk tsk.....free speech and all doesn't only apply to you and your agenda, logansdad. It applies to ALL.
posted on December 30, 2005 03:04:23 PM newWho besides a gay male or sick female would want to see this sh*t? (picked that word on purpose)
'Brokeback' a Box Office Success So Far
By SANDY COHEN
AP Entertainment Writer
Published December 29, 2005, 7:46 AM CST
LOS ANGELES -- Who's afraid of a couple of gay cowboys? Not moviegoers, who helped "Brokeback Mountain" post the highest per-screen average over the film-flush holiday weekend.
The Ang Lee film, which follows the 20-year forbidden romance between two roughneck ranch hands, earned $13,599 per theater, compared with $9,305 for weekend winner "King Kong" and $8,225 for "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe."
The big question is whether "Brokeback" can maintain its momentum as it moves from selected cities, where audiences are receptive to the subject matter, to suburbs far and wide, where that might not be the case.
Early numbers -- and early awards buzz -- establish the picture's staying power, industry insiders say. "Brokeback" earned a leading seven Golden Globe nominations.
"It delivered very strong growth in what is truly a highly unforgiving, competitive, cruel market at this Christmas period," said Jack Foley, president of theatrical distribution for Focus Features. "It showed it has breadth beyond the gay community."
Distributors planned to roll out the film slowly. It opened in just six theaters, where it earned an "unprecedented" $109,000 per venue, said Paul Dergarabedian, president of box office tracker Exhibitor Relations Co. Inc.
The film expanded to 69 theaters the following week, then to 217 over the holiday weekend, reaching suburban audiences in Portland, Dallas, Denver and Atlanta.
The gradual release allows moviegoers to talk up the film's appeal, Foley said.
And it seems to be working.
"This is a film that builds through word of mouth and critical acclaim," Dergarabedian said. "People want to see what all the fuss is about."
Response has been so robust that distributors are expanding the film's rollout ahead of schedule. It will show on 269 screens this Friday, and reach an additional 80 markets the following week, Foley said.
Still, he acknowledges that bringing a homosexual love story to the Bible Belt presents its own set of challenges. Various Christian groups voiced opposition to the film before its release.
Ted Baehr, who reviews films for the Christian Film & Television Commission, called the film "abhorrent" and "twisted, laughable, frustrating and boring neo-Marxist homosexual propaganda" in a review on the Commission's MovieGuide Web site.
But based on the film's reception in Atlanta and Dallas, Foley said he expects it will be well received in other markets.
"We're rolling it out ahead of schedule because the demand is there," he said.
Ever-building buzz can only help "Brokeback," Dergarabedian said.
"This film has so much buzz going for it and so much critical acclaim going for it, it will transcend any limits the subject matter has placed on it," he said. "If you want to be a well-informed viewer on Oscar night, you should probably see this movie."
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
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