nicknac
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posted on November 4, 2000 12:58:07 PM new
Does anybody else out there think that it is unfair,uncalled for and an afront to their privacy for Ebay to allow other users to view items that you have bid on or bought.
What possible reason could anybody have for needing to know what I'm bidding on, have bid on or have boughten??
People by EVERYTHING on Ebay from Preparation H to smut.Many people buy clothes or medical devices. Does EVERYBODY really have any right to to know what size clothes you wear or what maladies you might suffer from????
What possible purpous is there in making it available to the public.
Even the item numbers in feedback can be used for this. Why is it anybodies business but the buyers and sellers??
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amalgamated2000
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posted on November 4, 2000 01:10:57 PM new
I couldn't agree more. That's one reason that I use private auctions.
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nicknac
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posted on November 4, 2000 01:15:40 PM new
Why does Ebay even think this type of info is relevant??
Can anybody give me a GOOD reason??
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Glenda
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posted on November 4, 2000 01:25:11 PM new
Good reason #1: Researching whether you've been shilled on an auction.
Maybe someday they'll do away with the item link and just show the seller account that was bid up.
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kidsfeet
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posted on November 4, 2000 01:32:46 PM new
Good reason # 2. To see if your bidders have bid on thousands of dollars of items that month.
I got mixed up in a fraud case out of CA. This Ebayer was paying for her auctions on a closed account, with personal checks. She had good feedback, because many sellers (me included)leave feedback when payment is received. I don't always hold checks, especially with high feedback, but THIS one had a local branch, so I tried to cash it there. That is how I found out about it.
I checked her bidding history and she bid and WON on over $12,000.00 in auctions that month. I proceeded to e-mail ALL her sellers to let them know what was going on. Some had already sent their merchandise and were SOL. Negatives did not start pouring in until lots of sellers were scammed out of thousands. Sometimes, I DO check bidding history now, to make sure my bidders are not scammers. And, now I don't leave feedback until the check CLEARS.  )
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nicknac
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posted on November 4, 2000 01:32:46 PM new
Sorry Glenda. I don't consider that a "good" reason.
NOBODY has any right to know what I buy, when I buy it or how much I paid.
Many sales are very personal and I can't see violating everybodies privacy on the outside chance that there might be something unclean going on in .05% of the auctions.
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nicknac
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posted on November 4, 2000 01:36:32 PM new
Sorry Kidsfeet. Still not good enough to put EVERYBODIES buying habits on public display.
It would be easy enough (and only prudent) to hold checks until cleared.
Why should my buying habits be publicized to protect somebody from something they could, and should, protect THEMSELVES from??
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macandjan
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posted on November 4, 2000 02:36:10 PM new
[ edited by macandjan on Dec 3, 2000 04:00 PM ]
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nicknac
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posted on November 4, 2000 03:32:47 PM new
Thanks MAC. I may look into that. Not that I have anything to hide but my business IS MY BUSINESS.
By the way. What size underwear does your wife wear??
Oh, sorry. That's really nobodies business is it??
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bobbysoxer
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posted on November 4, 2000 03:48:51 PM new
paranoid?
not bobbysoxer on eBay
[email protected]
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Shadowcat
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posted on November 4, 2000 03:53:53 PM new
Paranoid: Two noids.
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nicknac
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posted on November 4, 2000 04:03:52 PM new
Paradox = 2 Drs.
Illegal = sick bird
Just for grins: What do you call a Lawyer with an IQ below 50?
Your Honor!
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bobbysoxer
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posted on November 4, 2000 04:11:31 PM new
What is the definition of a troll?
not bobbysoxer on eBay
[email protected]
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Shadowcat
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posted on November 4, 2000 04:22:26 PM new
For Whom the Bells Troll?
Sorry. I'm feeling silly tonight(And Silly isn't complaining about it, either. ).
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dman3
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posted on November 4, 2000 04:30:08 PM new
WOW The number one reason I can find ebay lets this info out is for sellers use.
I mean concider this you are a sellers out there looking for what buyers are collecting and buying you need to find buyer points of interest well how to find this.
Check buyer feed back of past sales So next time your out on your buying spree you will know just what to look for that will generate the most interest and be garenteed to have known buyers of these antiques and collectables.
Nothing worse then going out to stock up on inventory only to find later there is no know market or that you paid 60% more then its ever sold for on auction!!!!
second good reason is to find what buyers starting bid tolorance is on the items you have to sell. Find out the highest Possible starting bid your likely to receive bids on
earily.
Sellers investing $$$$ in inventory not only want to be sure there are buyer but they also need to maximize there profits if an item ends one bid as we know they do.
There is an Item out there I can get for $200 I can do research and see if one this item has ever sold to any buyer at $200 or more and if buyer were bidding with a starting bid of $200.
seems pretty logical to me the same info most websites cookie you to find out we get from your past buying habbits.
remember sellers have no privacy either bidders buyers can look into our past sales read past feed back on sales see what other think of our services even more anyone can request more info mailing addresses phone number ECT.
WWW.dman-n-company.com
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nicknac
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posted on November 4, 2000 04:36:35 PM new
Still not a good reason.
1st. If you want to look at what items or catagories are popular you need go no further that the catagory listings to find this out.
2nd. How many YEARS would it take to gather this information in this manner? You check specific buyers to see what size underwear they are bidding on? Wouldn't it be MUCH x 10 easier to go to the catagory to see what is selling and for how much?
Still waiting for one GOOD reason why YOUR PERSONAL BUYING HABITS are anybodies business.
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nicknac
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posted on November 4, 2000 04:46:35 PM new
Definition: TROLL = bobbysoxer
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bobbysoxer
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posted on November 4, 2000 05:05:36 PM new
nicknac
It is my opinion that you are attempting intimidation in order to get me to shut up.
FYI I don't intimidate very well.
It is in my opinion that you may have something to hide and you don't want some of us to find it.
not bobbysoxer on eBay
[email protected]
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RM
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posted on November 4, 2000 05:29:13 PM new
It's an online auction. Keeping as much as possible out in full public view is the best way to go. I like being able to see who I'm bidding against. It does makes it more difficult for shillers as well.
I couldn't care less what somebody else bids on. I'm only interested in knowing who I'm bidding against and that the bidding is honest.
If anybody really cares what all I bid on, it would be the first time and I really couldn't care less anyway. Doesn't seem like a problem to me.
The current system has been working just fine like it is. The more open, the better.
Ray
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AnnieJean
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posted on November 4, 2000 05:30:43 PM new
Is there a full moon tonight?????
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dman3
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posted on November 4, 2000 05:33:44 PM new
the catigory list Wont show High winning bids at all.
catagory list Wont show past or closed auctions that may not be listed at the time you are looking.
you cant check out price trends from the past up to now in the catigory list to find if the price on a collectable is on the rise or if its on the down word cycle. wont show you how many of one item was listed and sold compared to what was listed with out sales .
Define troll : well acording to popular fairy tale a troll is a small unkept Ugly wart noised nasty gas infested Nasty self centered greedy imp of a elf.
WWW.dman-n-company.com
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macandjan
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posted on November 4, 2000 05:35:35 PM new
[ edited by macandjan on Dec 3, 2000 04:00 PM ]
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Powerhouse
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posted on November 4, 2000 05:56:28 PM new
Nickety-Nac, don't come back!
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abacaxi
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posted on November 4, 2000 06:35:03 PM new
nicnac - Just register with another username for buying smut and Preparation H.
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CAgrrl
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posted on November 4, 2000 07:07:34 PM new
abacaxi- LOL! That's funny!
I have to agree with bobbysoxer.
And I'm all for keeping everything out in the wide open as well.
In nicknack's defense, I can think of another very good reason why people might NOT want their bid history searchable though. OK, a few days ago I placed a pretty high proxy on an item I wanted. It was an item that was not listed well and I thought I had a really good chance of winning it. Then this other chick came along and bid against me, THREE different times, until she finally was able to outbid me. I was annoyed enough that she found the auction in the first place but I was totally annoyed that the auction then had FOUR bids on it, causing everyone and their brother to then want to see what was so great about that auction. SIGH. (I still won with a well-timed snipe at the end.)
But then I realized that if she had found that auction, she might have found some other killer stuff too, so I checked out her bid history. Sure enough, lots of great stuff I wouldn't have found otherwise, all right there in her bid history. I can understand how the chance of this happening could upset somebody. But hey, all's fair in love and Ebay, if you don't like it, snipe.
And just to let you know, that auction wasn't for underwear.
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ioughta
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posted on November 4, 2000 11:24:23 PM new
Wandered into this one..good subject!
Waaay back when I first started selling in '98 on ebay-- I gave this a lot of thought. It is now 3 1/2 years and it's amazing the amount of data which has compiled regarding people's selling habits.
I sincerely believe that market researchers use ebay info - but not sure if by permission, if they pay for it or what... but I cannot believe ebay didn't know that this data would be priceless!
I happen to agree that once the sale is closed -- the research data should remain but NOT THE seller or bidder emails. IOW-- if I search for a blue widget - fine-- I can see how many sold and at what prices. There is no earthly reason I need to know who bought it. I always feel uncomfortable viewing this info. It's none of my business!
When was the last time you bought something in a retail store - and they put your name on a list - that you bought that item?? Would it be ok for them to publish it for the world to see? That is exactly what ebay is doing....
Sheep get shorn ~ 
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abacaxi
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posted on November 5, 2000 02:34:22 AM new
CAgrrl -
If you spot a piece that is undervalued and has no bids, that's when to SNIPE or create a new ID for a while ... there are people who find a knowledgeable buyer and just bookmark the bidder's list so they can scavenge their research. It's also common at real-life auctions.
If you have a persistent "follower", bid on some utter junk and drive the price up a bit, then let them win. After you stick them with several repros they will stop following you.
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Reamond
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posted on November 5, 2000 02:58:52 AM new
I don't know if this would be considered "bottom feeding", but I have used the info on items bought to sell other items to people who have bid on one of my items.
If I find a pattern of interest in items bought or through the feedback, I've had a 70% success rate with secondary sales.
Oddly enough the buyers in this situation refused to go through the auction process for these items when I referred them to an auction, but prefer to buy direct.
However, I have decided to put a brochure with my eBay shipments to avoid any notion of "spam".
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MrJim
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posted on November 5, 2000 04:49:10 AM new
Reason #3 - It is faster and easier to check the bidding history of your winning bidders to see if they are bidding on one of your other open auctions when you send them the EOA notice for a recent win. The only other alternative, is to check every single auction you have listed. We send an email with the following: "we can combine multiple items to save you on shipping. Let us know if you would like to have this item held until our other auctions end. Here is a link to our open auctions for your reference: http://cgi.ebay.com/xxxxxxxxx
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harvestmoon
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posted on November 5, 2000 04:49:55 AM new
When I began selling on eBay I didn't like the fact that others could easily view my buying/selling habits. It's nobody's business, I agree. It's like a nosey neighbor snooping through your curtains at night to see what you're doing inside your own home. But, since there was nothing I could do about it, I wasn't going to stop bidding or selling. Although I can still come up with a dozen reasons why I dislike it, I can also come up with several reasons why it can be advantageous at times. For one thing, if there's an item that I look for on a regular basis, and might miss one or two on occasion, I can always look up another bidder's bidding list who bids on the same items, and check his/her list for the same item that I may have missed. Sneaky? Yes, but I guess peeping through someone's curtains can have its advantages at times.
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