posted on December 30, 2005 03:06:51 PM newI'd figured it was an "in your face film" just like Queer's for the straight guy, and the rest of the "queer" TV shows.
How would you know what goes on in "gay TV shows"? Do you sit there and actually watch them? You have admitted to me in the past you don't so how can you make a comment about something you don't watch.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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posted on December 30, 2005 03:10:33 PM new
The bragging about how well, financially, this movie is doing doesn't come as a surprise to me. Here's the LEFT liberals....always condemning big corporations for providing all the millions and millions of jobs for American's that they do.....BUT let the well known, immoral hollywood produces make big bucks off or gay sex, porn, partners switching partners....violent movies ...etc....all the crap that makes the MOST immoral people in hollywood rich....and oh boy...that's somehow GREAT.
posted on December 30, 2005 03:11:07 PM newfree speech and all doesn't only apply to you and your agenda, logansdad. It applies to ALL.
That is right sweetie pie. FREE SPEACH APPLIES TO ALL. Even to those that speak out agianst the war, Bush, his policies and the troops
Get used to it.
You better listen to your own advice.
Bush is the worst president in recent history. The war in Iraq is wrong, both morally and ethically.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on December 30, 2005 03:15:24 PM new
LOL.....another thing you've never been able to comprehend. YES...all get to speak out. As I've always said here. AND they get to hear why others think they are so wrong.
And this President was RE-ELECTED and more seats were gained in Congress AFTER this war started. Your 'polls' and all your complaining isn't going to change that.
posted on December 30, 2005 03:26:37 PM newYour 'polls' and all your complaining isn't going to change that.
My polls - what polls have I done "Old Wise One"??? Please, Please I would like to know.
I do not remember working with Gallup, Newsweek or ABC on any polls.
Another lie from the old bag herself.
Oh by the way HAPPY HOLIDAYS !!!!!!!~!
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
[ edited by logansdad on Dec 30, 2005 03:27 PM ]
posted on December 30, 2005 03:37:46 PM new"BUT let the well known, immoral hollywood produces make big bucks off or gay sex, porn, partners switching partners....violent movies ...etc....all the crap that makes the MOST immoral people in hollywood rich....and oh boy...that's somehow GREAT."
There you go again Linda... grouping gay people in with other acts you find immoral. Maybe it helps you to deal with homosexuals if you think they're all nasty and immoral human beings.
posted on December 30, 2005 03:44:46 PM new
Yes, KD, I'm AM saying that a movie about two men who are CHEATING on their wives....with WHOMEVER....is immoral.
posted on December 30, 2005 03:58:42 PM new
So on everyday tv shows, soaps, movies, etc., where someone cheats on their spouse, you think those are immoral as well? It's the cheating that bothers you?
posted on December 30, 2005 04:02:14 PM newYes, KD, I'm AM saying that a movie about two men who are CHEATING on their wives....with WHOMEVER....is immoral.
Yes because it is two men that are cheating on their wives it is immoral.
If it was a politician that is cheating on his spouse it is ok. Oh wait, it is ok if it a Republican politician that cheats. If it is a Democrat that is it immoral.
Once again it is the Christians that are defining what is immoral.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on December 30, 2005 04:09:27 PM new
KD...I think I've been pretty clear over the years at what I find immoral....and yes, cheating on ones spouse falls in that catagory BY MOST MORAL PEOPLE.
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Yes, ld, I understand anyone who objects to or gives a critical review of a movie you think is just the cat's meow.....is not acceptable. But guess what? That's one reason people in our states are voting AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE....they find it immoral too. The act itself is against what you say you were brought up in....the Catholic religion. Obviously you pick and choose what they teach that you agree with and what they don't.
You want to enjoy gay sex.....GO FOR IT....I only care when your lifestyle is being 'sold' by movies like this as NORMAL, acceptable behavior. Further degrading marriage, family life, etc. So practice what you wish....start trying to teach it to my grandchildren as 'normal' healthy behavior....and I'll fight you all the way.
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I know, classic, she's bragged about it several times.
posted on December 30, 2005 04:20:56 PM new
"Yes, KD, I'm AM saying that a movie about two men who are CHEATING on their wives.."
well....if two straight men deceide to cheat on their wives and dick each other in the azz,I can come to only one conculsion...their wives must have looked exactly like crowfart.
posted on December 30, 2005 05:41:22 PM new
::Here's the LEFT liberals....always condemning big corporations for providing all the millions and millions of jobs for American's that they do::
Now wait a minute. The only person on this board that does that is Peepa and he has not been a part of this conversation so lets not over dramatize this one.
::.I only care when your lifestyle is being 'sold' by movies like this as NORMAL, acceptable behavior.::
Linda - you posted an entire synopsis on thismovie. Did you read it? These men did not "follow their hearts" specifically because a gay lifestyle was not deemed as normal or acceptable.
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posted on December 30, 2005 06:50:37 PM new
LD writes:
"Yes because it is two men that are cheating on their wives it is immoral.
If it was a politician that is cheating on his spouse it is ok. Oh wait, it is ok if it a Republican politician that cheats. If it is a Democrat that is it immoral.
Once again it is the Christians that are defining what is immoral."
It's not the religious issue I find fault with it's being an unnatural human act I have a problem with.. Kind of like sex with animals and the like. I dont think it makes a difference what religious preference (if any) that you hold
LD, I have watched queer eye for a straight guy. I enjoyed it. There was no sexual crap going on. As far as the other shows, Ive been told about them. Like Ive stated before, I believe its a push by the gays to make their lifestyle look to be more main stream.
Personally I have no problem with someone being gay, I have a problem with the marriage bullsh*t. I have a problem with the Pink Tide, (socialist and communist gay movement).
Amen,
Reverend Colin http://www.reverendcolin.com
posted on December 30, 2005 07:05:53 PM new
fenix - Unless I am misunderstanding what you're saying....I agree the movie showed how they 'hid' and did not believe most in society would accept their union.
On the only peepa thing.....nope, sorry, I've read KD, helen, mingotree/crowfarm and logansdad go on and on about how terrible big corporations are...how much money they make when it's all so unfair to the poor people/workers. You may have missed those posts, but I didn't.
posted on December 30, 2005 07:20:19 PM newI only care when your lifestyle is being 'sold' by movies like this as NORMAL, acceptable behavior. Further degrading marriage, family life, etc. So practice what you wish....start trying to teach it to my grandchildren as 'normal' healthy behavior....and I'll fight you all the way.
Whether you think it is normal or not, gay people are part of this society. I am glad to see there are finally movies about what actually goes on in society.
Nobody is forcing your or your siblings to go see it.
I hope you start teaching your grandchildren that your behavior is not normal. I hope you do not start teaching your so called Christian values. Show me where Jesus taught hate. Show me were Jesus taught that is OK to discriminate. Show me where Jesus himself denounced homosexuality. As long as you are teaching your grandchildren moral behavior, dont forget to teach them that Divorce is a mortal sin according to the Catholic Church. I know selectively practice your religious beliefs.
I hope your grandchildren see you for what you are - a religious bigot trying to force your moral values onto other people. You religious people are the biggest two faced hypocrites in society.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on December 30, 2005 07:23:22 PM newI agree the movie showed how they 'hid' and did not believe most in society would accept their union.
Well duh. The movie is takes place in 1963.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on December 30, 2005 07:26:36 PM new
Linda, I don't like big companies that make huge profits at the expense of others, like drug companies. I don't like big companies that treat their employees bad and pay them next to nothing so they can make even more profit. I don't like companies that get sooo big, they start to control political parties. All others are fine.
posted on December 30, 2005 07:54:32 PM new
logansdad....hope you enjoyed your little rant there. No use in me responding to what you've said because you can't read and understand what I said.
And yes, I will fight/be against the gay's agenda of pushing gay marriage and gay sex as being 'normal'. This film is just one more that is degrading to marriage, families, family life - all a big hoax - and I was glad to post the review I did. Want sympathy???? You're not going to find it with me. Look elsewhere.
posted on December 30, 2005 08:08:21 PM newThis film is just one more that is degrading to marriage, families, family life - all a big hoax -
I hope you will be protesting at all the main stream straight movies that meet the above criteria of yours. You are just one big religious bigot hiding behind selective religious views.
I am glad to see there are many in this country that are straight and are not afraid to go see "Brokeback". America is not going to let the religious right dictate what they should or should not watch.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on December 30, 2005 08:24:43 PM new
maggie - And they're one of the fastest growing parts of the movie industry. It's amazing...but I personally believe it's because some people can't connect on and emotional level with others. And sex is arousing...but most of the ones I've watched are very degrading to women....have no story line....and cause some men to become unhappy with a normal sexual relationship....when watched to excess.
But as our society continues it's moral decline....the porn industry is growing by leaps and bounds....so there is those that want or need these types of film to meet some need they're missing.
posted on December 30, 2005 09:14:41 PM new
::And yes, I will fight/be against the gay's agenda of pushing gay marriage and gay sex as being 'normal'. This film is just one more that is degrading to marriage, families, family life - all a big hoax - and I was glad to post the review I did.::
The movie does not degrading to families. It's a story of what happens when people try to deny who and what they in order to fit into societies definition of what is normal and the effects it has on those around them. It's life Linda. There are thousands of homosexuals out there that try to deny who they really are and live a "straight" life. In the end they end up destroying themselves or their families. If nothing else, this movie shows the pitfalls off of trying to live a lie.
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posted on December 30, 2005 09:38:20 PM new
::The bragging about how well, financially, this movie is doing doesn't come as a surprise to me.LL
I don't think anyone is "bragging" about the financial gains of the movie. I know that the reason that I have quoted them was, first, to show just how off base Rons original assumption was but the follow up has been to show that there are either more gays, or more tolerant people out there than conservatives would like to acknowledge. The movie has been out for three weeks and is still doing monster numbers. Narnia did $2300 a theater yesterday, Brokeback did $4200. I would quote ticket numbers but thats not how the industry tracks sales.
BTW - if you or anyone else wants to se the numbers - including totals, daily receipts and drops and gains in receipts each day, domestic and international receipts you can find them at BoxOfficeMojo.com. Some interesting info there if you like that kind of stuff.
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posted on December 30, 2005 09:52:00 PM new"... most of the ones I've watched are very degrading to women....have no story line....and cause some men to become unhappy with a normal sexual relationship....when watched to excess."
LMHO Linda at the no story line part! I agree with you and Maggie at how stupid they are. If men had no testosterone, the world would be a different place, that's for sure.
posted on December 30, 2005 10:07:37 PM new
fenix - Like I know I've said before....I like the 'take' of the gentleman giving the commentary I posted. I see this film as being just as HE described....promoting sympathy for gays. I have no sympathy for gay men to cheat on their wives, families, and put them at risk for VD's....like HIV/AIDS.
Like the author of the commentary I agree movies like this are meant to promote more 'understanding' of the poor 3-5% of our citizens...push the gay agenda. Just like some of the schools are trying to make their actions 'so acceptable'.
Get God out of the schools....no prayer....no mention of HIS name....but push the liberal agenda for the gay lifestyle and for gay marriage. It's degrading to all family units, imo.
And yes, I agree those who have married the opposite sex under totally false pretenses....should be called just what they are....liars, deceivers and adulters. Admit to being gay....practice their gay sexual behaviors and QUIT trying to force it as acceptable behavior....when to MOST it's not.
