posted on January 6, 2006 02:35:47 PM new
Bush asks Democrats for help to find a way out of Iraq for him and Cheney.
WHAT A MESS BUSH AND CHENEY HAVE MADE FOR AMERICA.
11 U.S. Troops Killed in One Day in Iraq
Friday, January 6, 2006 4:31 PM EST
The Associated Press
By JASON STRAZIUSO
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) — The U.S. military said Friday that six more American troops died in the recent surge of violence in Iraq, bringing to 11 the number of U.S. troops slain on the same day.
About 5,000 Shiites, meanwhile, rallied in Baghdad to protest the bloodshed and denounce what they said was American backing of some Sunni politicians who have supported — or at least failed to condemn — insurgent groups in order to bring them into a broad-based government.
In new violence Friday, a suicide car bomber struck a police patrol in Baghdad, killing one officer, Col. Noori Ashur said.
Elsewhere, British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw held talks in southern Iraq with local officials on forming a broad-based coalition government.
A U.S. Marine and soldier died in Thursday's attack by a suicide bomber who infiltrated a line of police recruits in Ramadi, killing at least 58 and wounding dozens. Two soldiers were also killed in the Baghdad area when their vehicle hit a roadside bomb, the military said Friday.
In addition, two U.S. Marines were killed by separate small arms attacks while conducting combat operations in Fallujah, the military said.
The military had previously announced the deaths of five soldiers hit by a roadside bomb south of Karbala. The attack came minutes before a second suicide bomber struck Shiite pilgrims in that city, killing 63.
It was the fourth-deadliest day in Iraq since the fall of Saddam Hussein in 2003, with at least 136 total deaths, including the U.S. troops.
The 11 U.S. deaths were the most in a single day since 11 Americans were killed on Dec. 1. On that day, 10 Marines were killed by buried bombs as they gathered for a promotion ceremony in an abandoned flour mill in Fallujah, and one soldier was killed in Ramadi.
At least 2,194 members of the U.S. military have died since the war began.
posted on January 6, 2006 02:47:35 PM new
IF most of the dems did help they would NOT be deciding to withdraw. NOR as helen as suggested to 'admit defeat and get out'.
This is in good hands....people who love, honor and WILL protect our Nation...
Bringing peace to the ME will be a GREAT start.
While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:
What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
posted on January 6, 2006 03:03:53 PM new
Wouldn't be referring to this article, would you?
Where the President is doing EXACTLY what the dems have been complaining about.
So now that he is....you twist it for your own agenda. How sad for you peepa, we're all in this war together.
Former Cabinet members aid Bush
By Bill Sammon
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
January 6, 2006
President Bush yesterday sought to counter press reports of insularity by soliciting advice on Iraq from a dozen former secretaries of state and defense from Democratic and Republican administrations.
"Not everybody around this table [agrees] with my decision to go into Iraq," Mr. Bush said in the Roosevelt Room at the White House. "But these are good solid Americans who understand that we've got to succeed now that we're there.
"And I'm most grateful for the suggestions that have been given," he said. "We take to heart the advice; we appreciate your experience."
Participants in the unusual meeting included representatives of every administration in the past 45 years, starting with Robert S. McNamara, who was defense secretary during the Vietnam war under Presidents Kennedy and Johnson. Also present was Madeleine K. Albright, who was secretary of state under President Clinton.
Although these Democrats have been publicly critical of Mr. Bush's Iraq policy, they were generally deferential to him during yesterday's meeting, said Lawrence Eagleburger, a secretary of state under former President Bush.
"You have to understand when you're in the presence of the president of the United States -- I don't care if you've been a devout Democrat for the last hundred years -- you're likely to pull your punches to some degree," the Republican told reporters after the meeting.
"Now, there was some criticism, but it was basically: 'You haven't talked to the American people enough.' And it was very mild.
"I don't think the president can come out of that meeting with any sense that there was a bunch of bureaucrats who were about to revolt," he said. "We're all has-beens anyway."
Harold Brown, President Carter's defense secretary, emphasized the difficulties of the ongoing war in Iraq, where violence has spiked this week.
"It's a very tough situation," the Democrat told reporters. "There are some signs of progress. My own belief is that the evolution of the political situation there over the next two months is going to be crucial to how it all turns out."
Melvin Laird, who was President Nixon's defense secretary, said the group had a "good exchange" with Mr. Bush, but also said: "A couple of the things he heard he probably didn't like too well."
For example, Mrs. Albright made no secret of her displeasure with the president's decision to topple Saddam Hussein in the first place.
"I did say that I thought Iraq was a war of choice, not of necessity, but that getting it right was a necessity and not a choice," she told Fox News Channel.
The meeting began with remarks by Mr. Bush and Zalmay Khalilzad, U.S. ambassador to Iraq, and featured briefings by Army Gen. George Casey, U.S. commander in Iraq, and Marine Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Then the former state and defense officials asked Mr. Bush questions and proffered advice.
None of the participants endorsed an immediate pullout of U.S. troops, which has been proposed by several Democratic lawmakers, including House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of California and Rep. John P. Murtha of Pennsylvania.
"One of the generals indicated that the number of troops, which is at about 160,000, would be going down to something like 138,000 by March or summer," said Frank Carlucci, defense secretary under President Reagan. "But nobody urged a cut-and-run policy."
Alexander Haig, who was secretary of state under President Reagan, said he was encouraged by reports of progress in Iraq.
"There were very few indicators that we looked at today that had not improved substantially," the former Army general told reporters. "Everything is proceeding, but it isn't going to be easy."
James Schlesinger, defense secretary under Presidents Nixon and Ford, said there is too much focus on minor setbacks suffered by U.S. forces and not enough emphasis on major setbacks suffered by insurgents.
"Instead of dwelling on the daily bombings, we ought to keep in mind the problems that the other side has been having," he said. "[The insurgents'] first goal was to stop the political process; they failed. The second goal was to prevent recruitment into the Iraqi security forces; they have signally failed, even though they have inflicted substantial casualties."
Yesterday's meeting came in the wake of various press reports that portrayed Mr. Bush as averse to input by anyone outside a small circle of advisers. Last month, Newsweek magazine ran a cover cartoon of the president trapped in a bubble.
"I don't feel in a bubble," he told NBC afterward. "I feel like I'm getting some really good advice from very capable people and that people from all walks of life inform me and inform those who advise me. I feel very comfortable that I'm very aware of what's going on."
posted on January 6, 2006 03:11:25 PM new
Unfortunately, Bush doesn't have a good record in the truth department so many feel anything he says is suspect, including all his good reports about how well the wars are going.
posted on January 6, 2006 03:33:06 PM new
Liar_K, oh come on,we all know about the meeting Bush just had. Sorry Liar_K, all your Bull Roar has hit the fan and blown back on your face.
Bush discusses Iraq strategy with present and former officials
Iraq-USA, Politics, 1/6/2006
The US President George W. Bush invited a former US secretaries of state and defense to the White House to hear their input on the US strategy being followed in Iraq.
He met in the White House with several senior former and current officials in the American administration including Republicans and Democrats, with many of them opponents for the war in Iraq.
The president said, "I'm most grateful for the suggestions that have been given [and] we take to heart the advice.
"I've had a chance to listen to their concerns, their suggestions about the way forward," he said.
The former secretaries of state participating in the meeting were Colin Powell, Madeleine Albright, Lawrence Eagleburger, James Baker III, George P. Shultz and Alexander Haig Jr.
The former defense secretaries were William Cohen, William Perry, Frank Carlucci, Harold Brown, James Schlesinger, Melvin Laird and Robert S. McNamara.
Face it liar_k the Iraq war has gone far beyond Bush's ability. Bush and Cheney start the war and now can't manage it. He and Cheney are grasping at straws trying to find a way out.
Just a few days ago the White House said they would not ask for more rebuilding money for Iraq. Looking to cut and run are they you bet they are. The Democrats have demanded a plan from Bush/Cheney. "stay the course" isn't working any longer.
(R)Sen Santorum PA. formally a Hugh supporter of Bush/Cheney and the Iraq war is now asking for a investigation of the Iraq war.
posted on January 6, 2006 03:50:34 PM new
LOL....almost exactly like the one I posted.
Oh buy somehow you think your's shows or says something different? Nope....not to me.
And you may understand someday that no matter what names you call anyone, including me, MY President is the Commander-In-Chief. And MY CIC will make the decisions....so blow all the hot air you need to.
posted on January 6, 2006 07:46:11 PM new
Just look at all the poor neocons. They just can't admit how their Iraq War has already gone way beyond Bush/Cheney/Rumsfield.
Pennsylvania (R)Sen Santorum formally a Hugh supporter of Bush/Cheney and the Iraq war is now asking for a investigation of the Iraq war.
Santorum along with many Republicans are worried that Bush/Cheney will or have ruined their political careers.
NO MORE "STAYING THE COURSE" FOR SANTORUM
Sorry,LIAR_K your commander and chief is getting flushed down the tubes by members of his own party. Bush is now a lame duck and you are NOTHING BUT A BOLD FACED LIAR.
posted on January 6, 2006 08:44:06 PM new
Be nice to bigpee, he has major problems.
YES, LIBHOLES, YES, ALFRANENFERDERS,YES, NEO-COMMIES, YES, LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. A-H
Amen,
Reverend Colin http://www.reverendcolin.com
posted on January 6, 2006 08:47:19 PM new
BTW, I found some more PIC's and will show them shortly.
"I should point out that if any mistakes have been made, it's the fault of the FBI, CIA, NSA and Black Ops. friends that have helped me find these pictures.
I take no responsibility. I didn't have sex with that girl."
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Amen,
Reverend Colin http://www.reverendcolin.com
posted on January 7, 2006 04:33:38 AM new
More upset neocons just checked in with nothing to say in defense of Bush/Cheney. LOL
Just a few short months ago big Ron was saying how Santorum was ahead in the polls and would be re-elected. LOL
The truth is here in Pa Santorum is in big trouble. Santorum buddies up to Bush/Cheney and is now paying a price for his CON-servative ways and votes against America's MAJORITY.
Santorum is just another fake thump the Bible and pass the money CON-servative that is being exposed.
posted on January 7, 2006 06:27:10 AM new
He hasn't lost the election yet peepa
I don't see this as asking for help:
President Bush on Friday opened a sharp election-year attack against Democrats, who he said would devastate the economy and turn back recent job gains by blocking free trade and raising taxes.
More like showing where the roadblocks are for a continuing growing economy.
Did you know that jobless claims are the lowest in 4 years peepa? Most airlines see the economy as improving?
Come on share that savy political knowledge you have shown so well.
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
posted on January 7, 2006 06:42:14 AM new
Hey Ron, the right wing CON-servative ways you support is failing. They never really had a change once people saw the CON and LIES involved. Read it and weep or better yet be in denial.
WASHINGTON (Jan. 7) - Dissatisfied with the nation's direction, Americans are leaning toward wanting a change in which political party leads Congress - preferring that Democrats take control, an AP-Ipsos poll found. Democrats are favored over Republicans 49 percent to 36 percent.
The polling came as disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff pleaded guilty to tax evasion, fraud and corruption charges and agreed to aid a federal investigation of members of Congress and other government officials.
President Bush's job approval remains low - 40 percent in the AP-Ipsos poll, with only one-third saying the country is headed in the right direction. Bush also remains low on his handling of Iraq, where violence against Iraqis and U.S. troops has been surging.
posted on January 7, 2006 06:42:48 AM newMore like showing where the roadblocks are for a continuing growing economy.
I'm SO glad he and Cheney are out and about reminding people of just how well his tax cuts HAVE helped the economy.
But don't ever expect peepa to see ANYTHING positive in this administration.....heck don't expect it from MOST of the liberals here.....they'd rather see our economic FAILURE so they could gloat about that. tsk tsk tsk
posted on January 7, 2006 09:49:52 AM new
By the next election the country will be more conservative then ever.
The majority are sick of wasting money and time on the "poor" that won't help themselves. You can give and give to these leaches and nothing will change. Charity is one thing, using or tax money is another.
What we need is a real reform on Social services criminal justice and welfare.
You can start your B.S. rhetoric on corporate welfare but without the big corporations there would be no middle class, no work and no money.
As George Thorogood once said:
"Get a hair cut and get a real job."
Or start a band, get several hits and make the big money, pay for your own way.
posted on January 7, 2006 11:49:46 AM newThe polling came as disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff pleaded guilty to tax evasion, fraud and corruption charges and agreed to aid a federal investigation of members of Congress and other government officials.
Sheepa you ignore the fact more DEAnMONCRATS accepted MORE CASH from Abramoff than Republicans. And NONE of the DEAnMONCRATS have returned ANY of it.
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
posted on January 7, 2006 12:37:42 PM new
If they would do something with the Welfare,maybe I could get in the grocery store and shop without being shoved out the door by the food stampers. I hate shopping when they are out. You almost have to go shopping when they have run out of money on their damn food stamp cards.
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Two men sit behind bars,one sees mud the other sees stars.
posted on January 7, 2006 01:22:55 PM new
""If they would do something with the Welfare,maybe I could get in the grocery store and shop without being shoved out the door by the food stampers. I hate shopping when they are out. You almost have to go shopping when they have run out of money on their damn food stamp cards. """
AWWWWW ..poor MAH...those pesky poor people sure get in your way don't they.
They actually shove you out the door and you don't call the police ???? That's odd.....
posted on January 8, 2006 04:53:42 AM new
Liar_K,
The only people the CON-servative tax cuts helped are the rich and industry.
Tell me if industry is doing so well and making money why hasn't workers pay and benefits gone UP?
Tell me LIAR_K if all is so wonderful under the Bush economy why are companies cutting pension and health plans? Why are companies cutting workers pay and benefits.
I guess if RECORD PROFITS FROM OIL AND OFF SHORE COMPANIES THAT DON'T PAY U.S. TAXES ARE FACTORED IN ALL LOOKS WONDERFUL.
BTW Liar_K, how are your and your friends heating oil and natural gas prices this winter?
JUST LIKE LIAR_K's GOOD NEWS FROM IRAQ POSTS. WHEN BULL ROAR COMES OUT OF HER MOUTH IT HITS A FAN AND IS SPLATTERED BACK INTO HER FACE.
Dissatisfied with the nation's direction, Americans are leaning toward wanting a change in which political party leads Congress - preferring that Democrats take control, an AP-Ipsos poll found. Democrats are favored over Republicans 49 percent to 36 percent.
President Bush's job approval remains low - 40 percent in the AP-Ipsos poll, with only one-third saying the country is headed in the right direction. Bush also remains low on his handling of Iraq, where violence against Iraqis and U.S. troops has been surging.
posted on January 8, 2006 06:47:28 AM new
linda may not answer...she's over in OTWA again making another great impression. She's already used the "You insulted me so I won't answer your questions" and the pouty ..."you liberals have such double standards"..whine, whine, whine....
I believe they have her number....
Wish more had received the same 'gift'. 