posted on September 5, 2000 02:31:04 PM new
RainyBear! LOL! oh that P.O.!
Well if you mailed it BEFORE 8pm on Saturday, according to my expierence there is, (since yesterday being a holiday) the package should be at you MIL's today!
They've even told me, if you get them in before 8pm, its postmarked and processed THAT day... and every single package (ok almost! ) that I've mailed before 8pm on a Sat. got there on Monday, even the east coast! They are pretty good, just don't tell too many others about it! LOL!! (though I think the word is out already! )
posted on September 5, 2000 02:48:54 PM new
There was a looooooong line there on Saturday - I was there around 3:00. Some people in line were commenting that it was the longest line they'd ever seen there, even around the holiday season. I wonder what was up that day, maybe everyone trying to mail their packages before the Labor Day holiday? Anyway, if my package arrives either today or tomorrow I'll be happy!
(Sorry to be so off-topic everyone, just had to yak with Shelly a little about the P.O. )
posted on September 5, 2000 03:18:19 PM new
shhhhhhhhh RainyBear OT again
how long was the line, the longest I've seen it was xmas time, and it went outside, did it go that far? and it is a small P.O. and if you were there by 3 betcha! your package is there today!
posted on September 5, 2000 03:23:24 PM new
It almost went outside, but not quite. So I guess it wasn't a record. It went outside the main lobby into that little vestibule between the outdoors and the indoors, and I guess there were about five or six people in that part of the line (in the vestibule) at its longest. I was lucky to get there when the line ended at the end of the back counter in the lobby. Right before I left they put another clerk in (there had been only one) so I'll bet the line thinned out a lot after that.
It's a good thing my husband didn't go - he hates waiting in line!
posted on September 5, 2000 03:37:54 PM new
Well, I am an American first and foremost but my ancestry is as follows:
My Mother was English and Norwegian. She converted to Catholicism before I was born but I am not sure what religion she was only that it was Protestant.
My Father (I was told, did not know him) was of Middle Eastern origin and was of the Jewish faith.
I was born with black hair and blue eyes in a family of blue eyed blonds. I sure stood out
BTW, I am not offended by this thread in any way. I think communication about these types of subjects is the first step to understanding and tolerance. If we can't talk about our differences (or similarities) in a civil, respectful way then we are really in trouble.
I care not about the color of anyones skin, their origin and ancestry or religion. What I care about is the content of their character.
And I must be a real dimwit because I thought that the term "cracker" had to do with saltines and being the same color. Duh!
I heard it a lot when I was visiting Georgia - everyone was a cracker or a redneck.
posted on September 5, 2000 04:28:45 PM new
nobs:
My father had black hair and blue eyes. I think that is such a beautiful combination.
(I of course inherited my moms dishwater brown hair)
posted on September 5, 2000 04:32:16 PM newParenthetically, it's funny how diverse the world is, and how little real diversity is showing up in the ancestries people are reporting. Chiefly Northern European, with some Native American for good measure. Now, what does THAT mean?
Well, according to the 1990 census, 23% of the US population had German ancestry; 16% Irish; 13% English, 10% African, and 6% Italian. The remaining ethnic groups (everything from Native American to Swedish) each appeared at the rate of about 5%. (this is all available at www.census.gov/apsd/cqc/cqc14.pdf)
So DUH, the reason that most of the posters here state they have German/Irish/English blood is because those are the most frequently appearing ethnic types in the US population. These are also the ethnic groups who have been part of United States culture (as opposed to being part of the Native American nations) the longest, and are on that basis alone most likely to have the highest education and income levels. The higher a household's income level, the greater likelihood that it will have a computer and have disposable income available for e.g. Ebay.
So much for elitist conspiracy theories. Pareau, I'm surprised at you.
Of course, most of the people who are confident of their antecedents are unaware of events in their family history that would lay waste to their assumptions, but that's a whole other kettle of fish.
I know a helluvalot about my family's skeletons as far back as the late 16th century. I've read their wills - which are sometimes startlingly revealing. I've read their arrest warrants, their jail records, their names spread all over national newspapers. One of them was a horrible bigot. A few of them were persecuted for their politics, and others for their religious beliefs. Several of them were just plain wrongheaded, and more were by any definition seriously weird. IOW, they were interesting. I've discovered genetic traits, medical history patterns, and a prominent deviated septum going back 5 generations I'm descended from some prominent families and some obscure, and I love 'em all the same, because who each of them were contributed in some way - by nature, nuture, how they influenced and repelled their children and their neighbors and shaped their worlds - to who I am today.
[ edited by HartCottageQuilts on Sep 5, 2000 04:34 PM ]
posted on September 5, 2000 05:16:57 PM new
shel: No not it. It was about a boy and a girl and an old man in Ireland. They were trying to save a horse I think. I remember scenes of them in a gypsy camp, at a castle, and in the modern city camping on the edge of the slums...I know that'a vague. I really liked it and have no idea what it was. It was one of a cultural series and I think was an Irish made film. The theater that ran the series is now closed...nothing good here anymore.
SAAB, you are right in a way. I like to get to know people on the net because beauty, weight, class, race, etc. removed makes for getting to know the person for what is inside. All begin as equals. I guess, however, since I have been here for 2 years (roughly) I am now interested in who is actually behind the people that I already know and have grown to love...or dislike as the case may be. (At least I am honest.)
I find web interaction much better and more relaxed, as a general rule, than in real life. Real life is hard for me.
T
posted on September 5, 2000 05:24:28 PM newtegan
It IS a beautiful combination. Unfortunately,
my hair lightened over the years to a very dark brown (now with some grey streaks) and I am not into the hair dye thing to make it my original color. I keep saying someday I will dye it but mr. Nobs talks me out of it.
The blue eyes are the same - All American eyes I call them when I am tired (red, white and blue )
edited for speeling
[ edited by nobs on Sep 5, 2000 05:25 PM ]
posted on September 5, 2000 05:28:22 PM new
Hello, Nobs. There is nothing wrong with your hair.
That makes me think too, this thread is not really so different in some ways from a photo thread and we have done that several times. I do love to see everyone's face. It's been a while.
T
posted on September 5, 2000 05:52:07 PM new
LOL, HCQ. Struck a real chord here, from all appearances. Your conclusions were exactly what I'd assumed--re the composition of the population chosing to post, vs. the general US population. Seemed pretty self-evident, but nobody bit. Getting "elitist conspiracy theories" out of that shows real imagination, especially since my complaint was based more on the lack of thought on the part of the posters, rather than an excess thereof. It's not up there with touring San Quentin in mink panties, but that's okay--I'm tolerant.
Yup, SAABsister, NT is what ails me (ENTP). Wish my ability to frame questions well and diplomatically matched my desire to ask them, but sometimes I think it's the very act of questioning that people find objectionable. Oh well!
Terri, I believe the movie is Into the West, with Gabriel Byrne.
posted on September 5, 2000 06:28:43 PM new
Into The West: Into the West is the story of a "traveling" family who have given up their traditional life of roaming, and find themselves trying to make it in the gritty, violent projects of Dublin.
Yes it is Pareau. Thank you very much. I have been trying to remember that for quite a few years.
Funny that I saw it as the storyline above where as a different site only mentioned the horse and grandpa and the kids and made it sound like a truely kiddie movie. It isn't "kiddie" though it would be a good movie for older children. Very good movie.
T
posted on September 5, 2000 06:41:36 PM new
Hey you. pareau. Quit throwing red herrings. I'm trying to cook 'em as fast as I can without you tossing more onto the fire
posted on September 5, 2000 10:47:51 PM new
One part of the family came from around Bath England.
They settled in Tenn and later migrated into northwest corner of Arkansas in the 1850's.
They were fiddlers and musicians and woodworkers - and went blind in many cases before they were 40.
The other part is a radical mix of Cherokee and Ozark outlaw. Great Grandma was full blood out of the Indian Territories. The other Grandmother on that side of the family from the 1860's was running with two men at the same time. She came up pregnant and one guy beat a hasty retreat - the other kept hanging around.
The family caught him on the banks of the White river about 1867 and asked if it was possible that he might be the father - he said that it was - and they killed him on the spot. She named the boy (My Great Great Grandfather) after him and married another man a few years later. They had 4 more kids. He admitted on his deathbed that the name he was known as was false - he had been on the run from Texas Rangers for murder and had lived under a different name since then. My Great Great Grandfather grew up and robbed banks in Missouri until caught. He was the only one in the group not hung - and upon his return to home he never crossed the border into Missouri again - because he was told that if he was ever on that side of the border agin, that they would finish the job.
All of this explains much of nutspec's contrary and vindictive nature.
posted on September 6, 2000 12:11:29 AM new
Nutspec, LOL!
HCQ, Good post. You too, Nobs.
I thought this was supposed to be a friendly discussion of just sharing. No big deal, though there have been some interesting points brought up which maybe should be discussed at another time.
Bits and Bobs, Sleep well. I'll be dreaming about the great great Uncle who got caned by another uncle because Uncle #1 embezzeled money from a bank.
posted on September 6, 2000 02:08:23 AM new
Morning
I come from Austrian immigrants on my father's side. My other grandmother was born in New York. My greatgrandmother was named Zelda. She was a flapper,named after Zelda Fitgerald, the one that was married to the author F Scott Fitzgerald...... Thus I was named after her. So that is how I got the name Zelda.......
posted on September 6, 2000 02:13:31 AM new
Maybe because alot of us here are older we find most of our ancesters did come from Europe. That's who immigrated here for so many years due to war's, and famine.
But immigration is changing, so is the color of the county (a good thing I think). I live in CA and now I am a minority here. When this quesion is asked of our grandchildren in years to come the answers will be quite different. My grandson will add Indonesian to his European heritage. That's where his mother was born.
posted on September 6, 2000 10:20:43 AM new
Haven't checked on this one in a day or so... RainyBear I love the sound of 'Bohemian' too! Has a wonderful gypsy sound to it.
nobs And I must be a real dimwit because I thought that the term "cracker" had to do with saltines and being the same color LOL I also had no idea of all the implications of the term.
