blairwitch
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posted on July 25, 2003 11:28:47 AM new
Not a good sign. That happens each time with 3rd tier sites. The owners are vocal at the start, but when things are looking bad they clam up. I doubt they are around in 6 months because sales look few and far between at ioffer.
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AuctionAce
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posted on July 25, 2003 12:00:43 PM new
It happened at Yahoo & Amyzony too a few years ago. If you go to the site that has all of the various free charts for ebay and try to get the Yahoo data you'll find this messeage.
Amazon and Yahoo do not show their auction counts anywhere on their pages, so their graphs are discontinued. Guess they have something to hide. EBay also discontinued the total auction counts number on their front page - but we will bring it to you as long as it is possible to calculate it.
http://www.medved.net/cgi-bin/cal.exe?EIND
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NativeAmerican
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posted on July 25, 2003 12:15:33 PM new
iOffer s--ks no traffic at all I had one sale in 3 months and the buyer turned out to be a deadbeat. 
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blairwitch
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posted on July 25, 2003 01:43:46 PM new
Yahoo's listings are shown on TAG notes.
As of 6Jan03 Yahoo had 218,717 (-44124)
As of 1Feb03 Yahoo had 282,198 (+63481)
As of 13Feb03 Yahoo had 220,763 (-61435)
As of 16Mar03 Yahoo had 227,074 (+6311)
As of 1 May Yahoo had 216,760 (-10314)
As of 13 May Yahoo had 199,008 (-17752)
As of 15 May Yahoo had 392,429 (+193421)
As of 18 Jun Yahoo had 191,208 (-201221)
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Salgal48
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posted on July 25, 2003 01:44:59 PM new
The last listing shows a big drop.
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sc0ut
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posted on July 25, 2003 01:53:21 PM new
Their traffic seems pretty good and growing according to alexa.com
Here are the current traffic ranks and iOffer seems to be growing steady.
1 being the site with the most traffic
iOffer 7,274
Bidville 13,937
Sellyouritem 33,960
epier 301,681
ebay 8
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Salgal48
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posted on July 25, 2003 03:05:20 PM new
How can Ebay have 8? 8 what?
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tomwiii
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posted on July 25, 2003 03:14:08 PM new
8 separate vegetable juices! See if you can name them...
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"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
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AuctionAce
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posted on July 25, 2003 04:18:53 PM new
Can you spot the one step forward and two steps backward trend at Yahoo? This latest FLD is turning out to be the mother of all stinkers. Posters on two other boards are posting non-existant sales for the current FLD.
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timetravelers
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posted on July 26, 2003 12:08:58 AM new
how are you guaging sales at ioffer?? you can only tell by feedback & not everyone leaves it especially newbies...there are no bids to show at ioffer.it is all buy now or make offers.
Looks to me like they are cleaning up many of the multiple listings of the same exact item. they have super growth according to alexa.
I made a sale yesterday & another today so did a friend getting more hits too.
I think they are honest to get rid of those multiples like they did with those masonic listings...
If all sites did that then it would be really interesting to compare the true numbers..
case in point, i got an "ask seller a question" on an epier listing last week..
IT CLOSED IN MAY 2001 apparently still on the site??
went to answer the lady that it was sold a "few years ago at another site" & the "feature of answering her" had a
25.00 FEE!!!!
i never knew answering a question was a pay feature LOL
I see some mention many many epier listings inc featured are from sellers that have left years ago..
JMHO
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blairwitch
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posted on July 26, 2003 01:44:26 PM new
Ace, I agree this FLD is a stinker. I was looking for some good buys, but not much like before. Bad time of the year, and they need more FLD's.
Ioffer has a problem with overpriced goods. You cant sell used VHS for retail!
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AuctionAce
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posted on July 26, 2003 05:25:25 PM new
Did you list any thing on Yahoo this FLD? I have 325+ listings and all are BIN at the start price and no sales after three and a half days and very few page views. Other posters on other boards are saying the same or close to the same thing. ( StoneCold is on my permanent ignore list )
Here's a question for the very knowledgable Blair Witch and any others that want to reply.
What do you think would happen if an auction/selling site decided that in order to get rid of stale listing it would make the sellers change the title or modify the item description/photos of every auction after 2 relists? What would happen if the auction site was Bidville or ePier? How many sellers would take the time to go to all that trouble if they had several hundred listings?
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blairwitch
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posted on July 27, 2003 02:55:27 PM new
AA, we were going to list, but there was not enough time to prepare. Summer is our off season on yahoo.
If a site like bidville would require changes after 2 relists it would not affect them due to the 30 day auctions. Sellers could go to the bulk upload and change something easily. No 3rd tier site is worth all the time involved in my opinion. Take a look at the latest bidville sale....not too much sizzle.
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AuctionAce
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posted on July 27, 2003 07:32:46 PM new
You're right about the bulk listers. What about the non-bulk lister users? I think there are a lot of sellers that only spend an hour or two a year with their Bidville listings and they wouldn't want to spend any extra time.
I finally sold something on Yahoo. ( Day 5? )
A dollar book. Watch the buyer pay with PayDirect or Paypal.
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stonecold613
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posted on July 27, 2003 09:49:50 PM new
AuctionAce, aka bidsbids, doesn't sell anything because he doesn't have anything of value to sell. That is why he is in the chat rooms 24-7. It was a forgone conclusion that Yahoo's FLD would have slow sales do to the fact it is mid summer and the slowest time of the year for online auctions. I didn't give it much hope either. Turns out I was wrong. Sales have been happening. Not at record levels, but sales none the less. Infact many more than even I expected. The FLD so far is a success. And bids, why don't you go find something of value to sell so you don't have to spend 24-7 in the chat rooms.
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AuctionAce
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posted on July 27, 2003 10:51:33 PM new
I don't even wonder what the chipanize wrote. The ignore feature is great.
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blairwitch
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posted on July 28, 2003 11:38:51 AM new
AA, the non-bulk loader users should just throw the junk away! 
I dont understand why anyone would take the time to list items for a dime. Such a waste of time, and space.
Yahoo would love to compete with eBay, but the stores are standing in their way. You cant have free auction listings, and charge people $50.00 monthly for a store at the same time.
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AuctionAce
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posted on July 28, 2003 03:43:52 PM new
The bulk listers are used mostly by the 10 cent card sellers aren't they? They go where ever a site that has a bulk listing capability is and load their inventory. I doubt that a site could verify that an auction has been modified to enforce any such rule as a mandatory modification of auction title and/or description.
I'm up to 8 sales on the Yahoo FLD. The biggest sale ( 3 items ) had a full Web TV mailbox that bounced but a neutral fedback telling her of the problem worked ). If Yahoo would have no listing fees and a 10% FVF there could still be a viable competitor to ebay, especially with the Half items being in limbo soon. A mandatory 50 cent selling fee like ioffer's fee structure would get rid of the junk auctions.
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blairwitch
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posted on July 29, 2003 02:35:47 PM new
AA, every 3rd tier site has the same 0.4%-0.7% STR so they could move their items to another semi-free site with a bulk uploader.
Yahoo needs the listing fee to keep the junk off, but they could have a FLD every 2 months. That would give the listings a boost like it did before. The last FLD was in May, so listings must have dropped for another FLD 2 months later. They should have another in September and November.
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AuctionAce
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posted on July 29, 2003 04:47:03 PM new
If a site does try a mandatory altering of title/descriptions after a certain period of time then the sellers will most likely call their hand and make the site remove the seller or their offending listings. Like you said, it will be no great loss to the seller as they probably have their items listed on several other sites already.
Yahoo Auctions needs a major overhaul. More and more of the buyers emails are bouncing back as dead emails. I got a Yahoo PayDirect payment with a dead email and the payment went through. I got another PayDirect payment and the buyer blanked out the street address and there is no street address anywhere on the payment? Naturally this buyer will not respond to emails. I have made 2 of the 11 FLD sales probably because of PayDirect but their service is so messed up that I may as well turn off the PD option. How about if Yahoo made all auctions that offered PD at half priced listing fees year round? Two and a half cents is still too much if almost nothing sells though.
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