kraftdinner
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posted on March 26, 2006 01:45:58 PM new
Classic, I was laughing about Bear saying he would show us all the gaping wound. Not at his accident, silly!
Bear, you have wonderful legs. Better looking than mine! Your pins are pretty cool. 
Linda, you're being awfully nice today. Did you bump your head too? Just to make sure...
1. Will you answer some questions?
a/ yes
b/ no
2. What political party do you belong to?
a/ the Bush party
b/ no party
Are people in Canada -
a/ same as we are in the US
b/ socialists?
My best friend's name is Helen -
a/ yes
b/ no
Hope you're feeling better today!
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Bear1949
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posted on March 26, 2006 03:50:44 PM new
OK here goes.
Open at your own risk
Pic of leg open to the bone w/hardware showing. Foot & ankle swolen to almost double in size.
http://www.uploadyourimages.com/img/514285p1010002.jpg
Another view of above.
http://www.uploadyourimages.com/img/834688p1010003.jpg
After 13 hrs of micro plastic surgery to close the open wound.
Very graphic!
http://www.uploadyourimages.com/img/153627p1010007.jpg
What it looks like today.....
http://www.uploadyourimages.com/img/869930p1010009.jpg
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
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Bear1949
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posted on March 26, 2006 03:52:05 PM new
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Linda_K
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posted on March 26, 2006 04:21:31 PM new
thanks, irked.
I don't sit at a PC to post....I can do it from any comfortable place in my house. My bed...a recliner...in the kitchen...the sofa...etc.
So...don't worry...it's elavated and THROBBING AWAY.
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Thanks for going to all that trouble, Bear....I appreciate seeing your leg.
None of them bothered me at all and you KNOW I love ya man....but your leg looks worse AFTER they did the surgery than it did before the open wound healed. Why is it so much bigger now? Did they add some muscle too?
I can now completely understand why you can't do certain things....like put a boot on anymore. Still looks so sore. Is it, all the time?
Another neighbor down my road had surgery done on her broken ankle....and although you can see the white surgery scar still....and she says when it's real cold outside it aches a lot...her leg/ankle returned to looking as good as her other one does.
gosh....I hope mine will too. But..it's going to do what it's going to do - and I'll just have to accept that.
Thanks again, bear, for sharing your experience with me/us.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on March 26, 2006 04:25:48 PM new
That's the repair? damn bear can you even walk much on it?
Ron
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Linda_K
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posted on March 26, 2006 04:30:38 PM new
ummm...Ron...did you forget something you wanted to say to ME????
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fenix03
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posted on March 26, 2006 04:44:53 PM new
Bear - did you mix up two of the pics or is that a MASSIVE calcium deposit around the healed break?
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Linda_K
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posted on March 26, 2006 04:50:42 PM new
okay....I guess not.
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"Linda, you're being awfully nice today. Did you bump your head too?"
I'm ALWAYS NICE, KD. Especially to those who are nice to me.
And yes, I did bump my head....remember??? I said I looked like someone 'sucker punched me' [on my chin].
"Just to make sure...
1. Will you answer some questions?
a/ yes - I'm like you KD....I ALWAYS answer questions directed to me.
2. What political party do you belong to?
a/ the Bush party
b/ no party
c/ why the MOST liberal person who runs, of course....what a silly question.
Are people in Canada -
a/ same as we are in the US
b/ socialists?
Socialists and commies....my FAVORITE political parties.
My best friend's name is Helen -
a/ yes - Another silly question.....helen's been the love of my life, since I can't remember when.
Hope you're feeling better today! Thank you.... I know you HONESTLY mean that.
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Bear1949
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posted on March 26, 2006 05:00:57 PM new
Linda, to fill in the open area the docs removed two layers of muscle from under my right shoulder (16 inch scar from arm pit down) and performed micro surgery to connect blood veins & a skin graft from the upper right thigh to cover the raw muscle.
All of this was done during surgery #4. No 5 was to replace plates & screws & cut back dead & infected bone & implant antibiotic chips into the area. No 6 was a bone graft from the left hip. A year later surgery #7 was to remove the hardware from #6.
I could have the size of the graft reduced now (they literally "shave" the area) but would result in another skin graft & a possibility of infection again & I'm not willing to risk it.
Arthritis set in between surgeries & reduced ankle movement by 50%.
I have become a great prognosticator of weather. A couple of years ago, in the middle of a hot cloudless summer day I told a guy I know it was going to rain that day. He told me I was a crazy freaking fool (not those exact words). Three hours a notable Houston summer deluge drenched the area & I made a believer of him
Still some day it hurts so bad I cant walk, sometimes it will go weeks without hurting.
Linda, dont worry about whats going to happen, what will be, will be.
Ron, yes I can walk on it and only in the last few months have I been able to walk some of the time without limping. Running or skipping, forget it.
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
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Linda_K
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posted on March 26, 2006 05:09:14 PM new
Gosh...bear.....you have been through SO much. It's hard to believe anybody would have to endure all that surgery, pain and suffering.
I sure can understand why you wouldn't be willing to go through it all again. Boy....enough's enough.
Sit down.....I'll rub some soothing lotion on your leg, ankle and foot.....poor guy. I didn't realize you'd been through all THAT.
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Bear1949
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posted on March 26, 2006 05:23:45 PM new
Linda, we all have our cross to bear. I believe this cross has changed me for the better.
I have a younger brother (by 3 years) I really dont care for. My wife, my mother & brother #3 all tell me I was just like him or he like me before I broke my leg.
I dont know how anyone put up with me if that is true.
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
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fenix03
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posted on March 26, 2006 05:37:09 PM new
Bear - I can understand that one 
I used to be one of those type A personalities but more like Type A squared. It wasn't until I met someone worse than me that I actually started to change and mellow out. I ended up calling an old boss/mentor of mine and apologizing for being such a pain when we were working together.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on March 26, 2006 05:37:25 PM new
I would be more worried had you not been posting Linda
But hope you don't have to go through it appears bear went through
Ron
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Bear1949
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posted on March 26, 2006 05:53:53 PM new
Fenix, thanks
Ron, she shouldnt have the same problems. Her's isnt a open fracture like mine was.
I feel I was lucky from one point of view. half of those who have what is called "the open flap procedure" (transplant of muscle) reject the transplant and have to have it done over again.
Ironically several month ago I ran into a guy that was limping like me. As we compaired notes, I found he was the 3rd sucessful patient of the open flap procedure courtsey of the US Navy in the mid 70's.
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
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Linda_K
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posted on March 26, 2006 05:56:35 PM new
Ahhhh...okay then Ron....just checking.
Absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that huh? lol
And you and me both....never even thought about it being more than a simple surgery....put the bones back where they belong...cast...get up and walk again.
Bear has been through more than any 10 people should have to go through. 
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Bear1949
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posted on March 26, 2006 06:11:07 PM new
Actually Linda my case could have been worse, during the 2nd surgery they came close to taking my leg off below the knee.
I joked (then) with them & said if they had amputated my left leg, they would have to take the right one also.
I was looked at like I was crazy. Told them that way when I was fitted for artificial legs, I could have them made long enough so I would be height proportionate to my weight...They didnt appreciate my humor.
In the long run, it would have been less painful to be wearing a artificial leg.
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
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Linda_K
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posted on March 26, 2006 06:18:42 PM new
fenix - I will be awaiting your call.
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Oh...I don't know bear. I'm glad they didn't have to take it.
I've mentioned before my kid sister had hers amputated, mid thigh....and has had problems most of her life with it.
If you gain or lose weight....three pounds either way....the artificial limb doesn't fit properly anymore. Causes leg sores...which sometimes get infected....it's a mess too. And the phamton pains were bad for her for the first few years.....really bad. Now...just occassionally.
I'm glad you were just joking.....I too joke when things are hard....makes them easier to accept.
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fenix03
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posted on March 26, 2006 08:45:59 PM new
LOL Linda. You have only ever known the kindler gentler me.
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Never ask what sort if computer a guy drives. If he's a Mac user, he'll tell you. If he's not, why embarrass him? - Tom Clancy
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MAH645
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posted on March 26, 2006 08:53:36 PM new
What an awful thing to have to go through. I hope you heal fast. Keep you in my prayers. Keep us posted how you are doing.
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Two men sit behind bars,one sees mud the other sees stars.
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piinthesky
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posted on March 26, 2006 08:57:56 PM new
Linda, Fenix swings a mean pitchfork and she polishes it daily. I think she rides it too. If you happen to catch a faint glint of steel, hit the deck.
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irked
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posted on March 26, 2006 09:13:03 PM new
Bear you are very fortunate to have kept your leg, from looks of it. I too can predict most weather changes by the way my shin bone feels I have a lot of calcification and it looks larger but not like yours. Mine was a closed fracture and had 2 pins all the way through the leg above ankle and below knee to keep it stable and was flat of my back for 3 months. Army for you. I think I wore a cast for about 11 months with that darn break. It was in area that is very difficult to heal just above the ankle about 3 inches.
I also have a pin in my right elbow from same accident it was an open fracture and it will never fully straighten out. but it has been that way so long can't remember how it is to have a real flexible elbow.
Linda hope yours goes well and you don't have any delays in healing.
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Without my ignorance, your Knowledge would be meaningless.
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Linda_K
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posted on March 26, 2006 09:27:09 PM new
Thanks MAH...I'm thinking positively right now. I appreciate your prayers.
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Okay...pi....got it.
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irked...you too huh? How did yours happen?
11 months WOW...I can't imagine being in a cast that long.
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fenix
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irked
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posted on March 26, 2006 09:41:23 PM new
Car accident up in Alaska while in the Army.
Slippery roads up there. Head-on collision, I was real lucky to live after seeing the vehicle I was in. I was asleep in back seat, woke up in hospital. I don't sleep in vehicles no more with someone driving.
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Without my ignorance, your Knowledge would be meaningless.
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classicrock000
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posted on March 27, 2006 03:17:17 AM new
"I don't sleep in vehicles no more with someone driving. "
just the one he lives in......
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NearTheSea
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posted on March 27, 2006 08:14:01 AM new
Linda, wow! Sorry you broke your leg! And you still have to have surgery? You better stay put and not try doing anything!
Bear! Geez! that does look bad!!
I've broken my arm a couple times, and they were really dumb reasons; ROLLERBLADES!
Hope you can get in to see your ortho guy soon, so they can fix you up!
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classicrock000
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posted on March 27, 2006 05:00:53 PM new
NearTheSea
posted on March 27, 2006 08:14:01 AM Linda, wow! Sorry you broke your leg! And you still have to have surgery? You better stay put and not try doing anything!
Bear! Geez! that does look bad!!
I've broken my arm a couple times, and they were really dumb reasons; I spoke out of turn.
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Bear1949
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posted on March 27, 2006 05:42:09 PM new
I've broken my arm a couple times, and they were really dumb reasons; I spoke out of turn.
You shouldnt sass you dominatrix..
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
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Linda_K
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posted on March 28, 2006 07:54:49 PM new
LOL....bear and classic....that's right bear....but isn't that part of the fun? [playacting]
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irked....What a cute card....thank you.
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NearTheSea - Well....at least you were having some FUN when you hurt yourself. Being a clutz/klutz....and breaking your leg is embarrassing to no end.
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Orthopedic doc said surgery on Thursday....4 screws two on each side. Not going to put me out...other health concerns...so will give me an epidural and said "we can chat that way, while I'm fixing you up." lol No cast ...just 6" of thick padding and an ace bandage. Absolutely no weight AT ALL on it for the first 10 weeks.....then one of those velcro boots for who knows how long. With all the small fractures in both ankles....will most likely have to deal with arthritis down the road...said he didn't want to make it sound better than it was going to be....so looks like I won't be dancing at my youngest son's wedding. But...hopefully if all goes well...I should still be able to attend..."IF," he said, you're REAL careful and don't hit it while using a wheelchair. But did say we'd have to wait and see as that date draws nearer.
Darn it anyway. I remember so clearly 5 years ago when our eldest son got married...and how extremely proud I felt when he approached me and ask it he could have the Mother/Son dance with me. Was so hoping to share that with my youngest son too. BUT...maybe I can figure out someway to twirl my wheelchair around by then. lol
So.....
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dblfugger9
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posted on March 28, 2006 08:05:49 PM new
You shouldnt sass you dominatrix..
hahaha, bear!!
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piinthesky
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posted on March 28, 2006 08:08:29 PM new
....4 screws two on each side. Not going to put me out
bolding is mine,
4 screws and it's not going to put you out...hmmmmm, he must not be very good at it. Ohhhhh, the lengths some women will go to, to get a date, LOL.
You know i'm just kidding around, don't you? I hope it all goes well for you and that your recovery is fast.
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