posted on April 7, 2006 12:46:14 PM new
::Has nothing to do with this President 'allowing' anything. But rather it's the action of all the anti-Bushites still trying.::
Sorry Linda - that dog don't hunt. There was an independent prosecutor. All he had to say was that he had declassified the information back at the very beginning and he said nothing. He TESTIFIED and said nothing.
Why, if he believed that what he did was correct, would he not say anything.
This has nothing to do with what the media or democrats may or may not try to accomplish... this is about the words that the President decided not to speak when he testified. the whole investigation was about the release of classified information. If the information had been declassified, the investigation would have ended the minute he testified to it.
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posted on April 7, 2006 12:52:00 PM new
sorry fenix....I totally disagree. This is an THREE year old issue....that came to a head, and imo, should have been dropped WHEN the procecutor decided TO NOT charge Libby with what they were trying to pin on him.....OUTING Valeria Plame.
They should have dropped it then...but no....hang on for dear life HOPING something else will come of this. So they THINK they've got Libby on LYING....lol lol lol Not yet.
It's no different than exactly what the liberals complained Star was doing to clinton. They're just copy-catting his actions.....still digging....still hoping. LOL But no PROOF of anything after ALL these years.
Imo, you and KD need to read Bear's post in this thread at 10:54 AM....and I'll hope you can understand what it's saying.
All of this would go away if President Bush would just stand up and tell exactly what said and by whom. It should be a big deal for him or anyone else. I have to agree that this is not a good thing but unlike Clinton, President Bush can't go to jail for declassifying information.
posted on April 7, 2006 01:15:45 PM new
::should have been dropped WHEN the procecutor decided TO NOT charge Libby with what they were trying to pin on him::
Don't you get it Linda - had Bush said something about this declassification when he testified, it would have ended before Libby ever even had to open his mouth. Bush made this bed himself with his secrecy.
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posted on April 7, 2006 10:02:56 PM new
Ron....I understand what you're saying.
My point is...that the left has been throwing this BS his way for over 5 years now. They come up with one thing after another and then expect him to defend himself. I'd bet he's laughing at all of them.
If he responded to each and every accusation/allegation they've made in 5 years....he'd NEVER be able to do his job.
We don't know at this point....he may yet answer them on this. I'd bet he's just tired of them whining and continuing with all this BS ....just praying that something/anything actually STICKS. Hasn't yet....and I doubt it will.
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Good one bear....I'm sure believing that's why they 'take' most of the issues the way they do....they're dense and can't grasp them at all. Seen it happen with too many of them....now I'm convinced that's IT.
posted on April 8, 2006 02:13:12 AM new
Wonder why it is that when the NYT continually makes errors/mistakes/misquotes they NEVER are in favor of this administration? LOL
No need to answer...I've already got their 'number'. But sadly, now it appears CNN is/might be headed in that SAME direction.
Reprinted from NewsMax.com
Friday, April 7, 2006 11:31 p.m. EDT
CNN Flub: President Bush Authorized Valerie Plame Leak
CNN initially reported on Thursday that newly released court documents covering Scooter Libby's testimony showed that President Bush personally authorized the leak of CIA employee Valerie Plame's name to the press.
Here's how CNN broke their bogus bombshell:
CNN's JIM CLANCY: "A major story breaking now out of Washington right now. According to court papers that were filed by prosecutors, I. Lewis Libby, Scooter Libby, who was a key man in the office of Vice President Dick Cheney, has alleged that U.S. President George W. Bush was the man who authorized the leaking of the name of a CIA operative and the wife of a former ambassador.
"Now - that former CIA operator, Valerie Plame, was unmasked to journalists." [END EXCERPT]
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In fact, the so-called leak authorized by Bush had nothing to do with Plame - but instead covered Iraq war intelligence that was mostly already in the public domain.
CNN **eventually** realized its error and issued an on-air correction, forcing liberals coast-to-coast to cancel their planned impeachment parties.
posted on April 8, 2006 08:46:54 AM new
And here's more on the 'dishonest' MSM media and how they can falsely misinform American voters, intentionally.
While I don't agree with the author's ending result....as I don't believe American voters can't/won't see what the dems/liberals ARE doing....but all the rest is right on truth.
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The Verdict is In
It's Official! America is in Deep Trouble
The ConservativeVoice.com
April 07, 2006 01:32 PM EST
I used to wonder just how desperate Americas socialist left would become once completely rejected from power in both houses of congress, most state governor mansions, the White House and the Supreme Court.
I used to try to imagine just how far the lamestream press would go to unseat politicians at odds with their anti-America socialist one-world open-pervert-society agenda. And I often pondered the depth and breadth of ignorance in the average American, limited to lamestream news as their only source of knowledge.
Today, I have the answers to all of these questions:
Though most Americans are far more conservative than anyone living or working in Washington DC today, the conservative movement finds itself playing defense to a long list of socialist anti-American aggressors.
No, not the Soviet block or Red China, but your friendly DNC Headquarters, their minions in the press, and your next door neighbors, many of whom are unaware of their socialist standing. These aggressors are growing impatient as they become ever more desperate and there is officially no limit to what they are willing to try in their quest to regain political power.
Despite a variety of unparalleled challenges to American life and liberty, the direct result of eight years of irresponsible gross mismanagement under the panty-raid administration of the 90's, the Bush Administration has managed to prevent 911 follow-up attacks, liberated 24 million in Afghanistan from the brutality of the Taliban and Al Qaeda, another 25 million from the brutality of the Hussein Regime in Iraq, delivered the lowest unemployment rate and the highest home ownership rate, while leading the country to record numbers in the stock market.
Yet the Administrations approval rating stands between 36 and 39%, according to the press. How is that possible?
It's possible because the press doesn't report any of the facts I just listed. What they do report is whatever Bush Administration adversaries want them to report.
The average American relies upon the lamestream press for their daily dose of 'reality', but reality is not what they are getting.
Americans awake each day to a daily body count of soldiers lost in combat in Iraq. It's usually the top headline of every paper, TV news show and NPR update throughout each day, for the last 1100 days in a row. There are no headlines of how many innocent Iraqi citizens didn't die at the hand of Hussein, that would have had we not removed him from power.
There are no reports of how many schools, hospitals, businesses and jobs have re-opened in Iraq. No stories about kids playing soccer in the streets with American soldiers, who once were imprisoned for their parent's anti-Hussein views. Just a running body count, as if that tells the entire story, because that is the entire story for those seeking to regain political power by undermining any support for their opponents.
Dan Rather and Mary Mapes lost their distinguished press careers as a direct result of their overt efforts to unseat a US President by inventing bogus National Guard service stories. But that was just the tip of the iceberg I'm afraid.
This morning the US press is all abuzz over court documents filed yesterday in the defense case for Scooter Libby and nearly every news outlet in America is intentionally misreporting the story:
The Chicago Tribune reports "Libby says Bush OKd leak on Iraq" <www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0604070152apr07,1,4411557.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed> .”
The San Francisco Chronicle says "Bush role alleged in leak of Iraq intelligence[/b]" <www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/04/07/MNGH6I5DID1.DTL> .”
The Detroit Free Press announces "Libby: Bush agreed to leaks" <www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060407/NEWS07/604070324/1009> .”
By the time the story reached Turkey around the globe, which takes only seconds now, Zaman Online reports "Bush Authorized Leak of CIA Agent" <www.zaman.com/?bl=international&alt=&trh=20060407&hn=31771> .”
The LA Times refers to Bush as Leaker in chief <www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-ed-bush07apr07,1,2645881.story?coll=la-news-comment> .”
As a result, everyone from radio giant Don Imus to failed Presidential Candidate John Kerry is busy working the American population into a fever pitch over a story that is not a story at all in reality. The headlines are very interesting. But in almost every case, (if you know how to read lamestream product today), the text of these stories tell a very different story than the headlines. And of course, as anyone with the uncommon initiative to check the facts for themselves would find, there is no story here at all really.
First, we are not talking about a 'leak' but an 'authorized' release of information. Not current information as in 'current intelligence briefings' used to fight the war, but as in, old intelligence information used to make the decision to go to war.
You know, that information that all of these Bush critics were demanding access to under the people's right to know. The same information and much more was released in hard copy form days later, [b]in response to the anti-war press demand for information concerning 'pre-war' intelligence.
Second, the documents filed in the Libby case say nothing at all about the Plame affair. It refers only to pre-war Iraq intelligence, which was not leaked, but was released by proper authority.
Third, even Libby is not being charged with 'leaking' Plame's name.
That's because it has long ago been established that her name was already public and not a secret, therefore, something unable to be 'leaked'. She wasn't 'under-cover', she was a well known CIA desk jockey.
Yet take a good look at how the lamestream press is presenting today's non-story for public consumption. Listen closely as socialist Democrats desperate for power rush to the microphone to make yet another attempt to create a public perception of a 'culture of corruption' with a little help from their socialist friends in the media, their only hope for winning in November hanging in the balance.
Clearly, there is NO limit to what Democrats will try and NO limit to how far the press will go in their efforts to mislead the American people into electing their socialist friends over at the DNC.
But what about average Americans? Are they really as stupid as Democrats and their buddies in the press believe? I didn't think so once, but yes, they are it seems; and that is the real problem.
We live in a drive-thru fast-food sound-bite society today. Few Americans have the initiative to even read the complete text of a column much less independently investigate a story to find out if what they are being told is true. Some don't even care if it's true as long as it helps the cause. A quick glance at the headlines makes everyone an expert on any subject today. And if the headline appears in enough papers, it is assumed to be true.
Well, today's anti-Bush headlines are atop every paper in the country and none of them are true.
So now what? This is the quality of information we are supposed to make governing decisions upon?
Whether we should or not, we will, because this is the only information many Americans will know. And that's why America is in deep trouble.
The socialist left will stop at nothing, the press is all too eager to help and the average American is none the wiser. We self-govern by headlines at best. This morning the headlines are all lies and in most cases, the actual text of the article says so. But on the basis of those headlines, nearly every American will be referring to Bush as 'the leaker-in-chief' before noon. Few will bother to read beyond the headlines and as long as that remains the case, America has no hope for the future.
It's beyond shameful. It should be criminal. It should be illegal, even with a free press, to intentionally mislead the public via bogus headlines. But it isnt. It happens all day every day and it has for many years now. Nobody is going to jail for it, or even being fired for it.
We most certainly do live in a sewer of corruption in this country today. But that sewer is a sludge-fest of intentional disinformation spoon fed to average Americans headline after headline, sound bite after sound bite, day in and day out until reality is no longer discernable in the sea of politically driven hogwash.
It's done at the direction of socialist anti-American politicians running the DNC, via the socialist anti-American free lamestream press, and consumed by an increasingly ignorant American electorate.
November will tell us just how ignorant the public is today and at the moment, it doesn't look good for the collective American IQ.
[ edited by Linda_K on Apr 8, 2006 09:33 AM ]
posted on April 8, 2006 09:25:14 AM new
I'm hopeful that your hallucinations stop soon, peepa, and that they will then release you from that terrible facility.
posted on April 8, 2006 02:51:31 PM new
Linduh states, "And here's more on the 'dishonest' MSM media and how they can falsely misinform American voters, intentionally."
This of course is followed by an Op Ed piece from the Conservative Voice.
I just love how Linda presents this to the world as some factual based article, when in fact it is nothing more than opinion from a right winged website. Linda loves to let others speak for her, never bothering to actually do research herself, instead she depends on editorial opinions to fuel her neo-conservaative facist engine.
posted on April 10, 2006 08:01:26 AM new
Benedict1949 "when you cant dispute the facts of the article, blast the source."
What facts? There is nothing in that opinion that is fact based. The entire editorial is nothing more than neo-fascist blabbering. The writer has rewritten history to reflect their own biased opinions, going as far as to present them as facts. Only uneducated people willing to let others think for them would consider that editorial as fact. I don't care if it is a Conservative writer or a Liberal writer of an Op Ed piece. The point is that these articles are called Op Ed because it is an acronym for OPINION EDITORIALS. These are most often written in the 1st person because the writer is writing from their own perspective. This of course would be obvious to Benedict1949 if he was educated properly.
This is the difference between Benedict1949 and Linduh vs. those of us who live in reality. You want to believe an opinion is factual.
This is why most of us (and this includes both sides of the political fence) don't bother quoting or posting Op Eds, even when they project our own views, with of course the exception of Benedict1949 and Linduh.
So, when you claim, "I blast the source", my question to you Benedict1949 is who in your opinion is the source? Linduh? A ghost writer of an Op Ed piece for the Conservative Voice? Or you? Personally, it doesn't matter who you claim the source is, because the source is only giving opinions, NOT facts.
