bigpeepa
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posted on November 15, 2006 03:01:26 PM new
In an early embarrassment for Bush, the House failed to approve normalized trade relations with Vietnam — a move Bush wanted completed this week. Instead, Congress "probably" will consider it in December.
OVER 50,000 AMERICANS LOST THEIR LIVES IN THE VIET NAM WAR. NOW BUSH WANTS TO TAP INTO VIET NAM'S CHEAP LABOR POOL?
I HEARD BUSH DIDN'T HAVE THE VOTES TO APPROVE THIS NEW (JOB OUT SOURCING)LAW.
CONGRESS MEMBERS NOW KNOW MILLIONS OF VOTING AMERICANS WILL BE WATCHING HOW THEY VOTE. YES!!!
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Linda_K
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posted on November 15, 2006 03:08:06 PM new
Didn't seem to bother you ONE BIT when kerry was doing the SAME thing.
Double standard????? 
While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:
What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
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Linda_K
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posted on November 15, 2006 04:10:48 PM new
So.....peepa's quiet now.
Maybe he FORGOT how kerry sold our MIA/POWS OUT trying to work out a trade agreement with Vietnam that would benefit his cousins company....make HIM/THEM losts of money.
But first kerry had to convince the US that there were no more MIA/POWS.
He didn't care ONE bit about the torture they were going though at the hands of the Vietmese....nope MONEY for his cousin was his goal.
There are many reasons I've called john kerry a TRAITOR....but it appears most on the left don't have a clue as to his previous actions. And there's a LONG list of them.
Do some research, peepa, on the port deal kerry's first cousin C. Stewart Forbes made with Hanoi back in 1992.
Maybe you'll learn something for a change....
While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:
What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
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bigpeepa
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posted on November 15, 2006 05:58:44 PM new
LIAR_K,
THE QUESTION TO YOU IS, HAS BUSH ALREADY BECOME A LAME DUCK? IT SEEMS THAT MOST MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AREN'T READY TO JUMP AT HIS COMMAND ANY LONGER.
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS NOW KNOW IF THEY WANT TO KEEP THEIR JOBS, THE MEMBERS NEED TO SERVE THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS NOT INDUSTRY AND THE RICH.
#1-SWIFT BOAT (BULL ROAR) DOESN'T WORK ANY LONGER.
#2- YOUR IN THE MINORITY NOW AND YOUR POLITICAL THOUGHTS ARE INSIGNIFICANT.
#3- YOU REALLY NEED NEW TALKING POINTS YOURS ARE ALL STALE AND OUT DATED.
BTW, I SEE THAT CROOK JACK ABRAMOFF STARTED 6 YEARS IN JAIL TODAY.
I ASKED YOU THIS QUESTION 6 TIMES BEFORE, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS OR THEIR STAFF ARE EITHER IN JAIL OR ON THEIR WAY TO JAIL SINCE BUSH HAS BEEN PRESIDENT?.
DO YOU HAVE A GUESS AS TO HOW MANY MORE REPUBLICANS WILL BE CHARGED WITH MONEY CRIMES OR WAR CRIMES WHILE BUSHY IS STILL OUR PRESIDENT?
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cblev65252
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posted on November 15, 2006 06:05:13 PM new
ROTFLMAO. . .I think it's funny that he's going to visit Vietnam now. Where was he back in the 1960's/1970's? Oh, yes, how could I forget. Taking it easy - avoiding combat like the chicken sh#t coward that he is. We don't need to tap into Vietnam for anything let alone a cheap labor force. There are enough people in this country out of work.
Well, now it's not a comparison to Clinton, but to Kerry. Nothing like changing the da#@ed subject now, is there? This isn't about what Kerry did or didn't do. He's not even in the equation anymore. It's about the irony of Bush and his trip to Vietnam. As usual, there's no constructive comment to the subject matter from the right.
Cheryl
http://www.kcskorner.com
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mingotree
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posted on November 15, 2006 06:05:39 PM new
""Linda_K
posted on November 15, 2006 03:08:06 PM
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Didn't seem to bother you ONE BIT when kerry was doing the SAME thing.""
Then why does it bother YOU that kerry did the same thing ????
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Linda_K
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posted on November 15, 2006 06:10:10 PM new
I understand cheryl, it goes RIGHT over your head.
kerry, the one you all wanted to WIN in 2004....voted for SEVERAL TIMES the same trade agreement with VN.
But now...it only concerns you when THIS president wanted to increase trade with VN....
How typical.
Clinton...not being brought up....okay....HE did the SAME thing with CHINA....you know the CHINA that you're always whining about.
And peepa....I'm NOT talking about the SWIFT boat veterans.....you REALLY need to do some READING so for once you might know what you're talking about.
I'm talking about in recent history.
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While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:
What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: [b]Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack[b].
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Nov 15, 2006 06:12 PM ]
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bigpeepa
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posted on November 15, 2006 06:16:44 PM new
hey liar_k,
If you want to go back in history it was a republican president that started to open up China. Nixon was another liar that was telling American that opening up relations with China would open up lots of markets and be good for America.
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bigpeepa
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posted on November 15, 2006 06:24:02 PM new
LIAR_K
#1-SWIFT BOAT (BULL ROAR) DOESN'T WORK ANY LONGER.
#2- YOUR IN THE MINORITY NOW AND YOUR POLITICAL THOUGHTS ARE INSIGNIFICANT.
#3- YOU REALLY NEED NEW TALKING POINTS YOURS ARE ALL STALE AND OUT DATED.
BTW, I SEE THAT CROOK JACK ABRAMOFF STARTED 6 YEARS IN JAIL TODAY.
TO PROVE MY POINT ABOUT HOW OUT DATED YOU HAVE BECOME. EVEN ALL YOUR ALLIES HAVE RUN FROM YOUR SUPPORT.
FACE IT OLD WOMAN YOUR SIDE LOST.
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Helenjw
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posted on November 15, 2006 06:26:50 PM new
Well, now it's not a comparison to Clinton, but to Kerry. Nothing like changing the da#@ed subject now, is there? This isn't about what Kerry did or didn't do. He's not even in the equation anymore. It's about the irony of Bush and his trip to Vietnam. As usual, there's no constructive comment to the subject matter from the right.
Way to go, Cheryl!!!
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Linda_K
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posted on November 15, 2006 06:29:05 PM new
What I'm saying is that you make yourself look like the ignorant fool you are when you show your pleasure that this President didn't get enough agreement on what BOTH he and kerry were trying to accomplish.
Here's kerry's voting record - he's FOR free trade.
He has voted for MANY trade agreements. Who do you think YOU'RE fooling? No one that actually KNOWS the FACTS.
kerry - Voted YES on granting normal trade relations status to Vietnam.
"Vote to grant annual normal trade relations status to Vietnam. The resolution would allow Vietnamese imports to receive the same tariffs as those of other U.S. trading partners.
Reference: Bill HJRES51 ; vote number 2001-291 on Oct 3, 2001
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While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:
What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Nov 15, 2006 06:33 PM ]
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Helenjw
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posted on November 15, 2006 06:36:08 PM new
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Linda_K
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posted on November 15, 2006 06:38:14 PM new
cheryl said, in part "This isn't about what Kerry did or didn't do. He's not even in the equation anymore."
LOL...do you THINK before you speak? EVER?
Of course he's still in the equation....he has a VOTE as a Senator from MASS. Or are you under some false impression kerry can't VOTE on these issues anymore. Just because he LOST the election.
While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:
What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
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bigpeepa
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posted on November 15, 2006 07:13:27 PM new
LIAR_K,
YOU AND OTHER ARROGANT NEO-CONS ARE ALWAYS SAYING THAT PEOPLE LIKE ME DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. ITS YOU YOU DELUSIONAL OLD WIND BAG THAT DOESN'T REALIZE YOUR BRAIN HAS MUSHED UP. EVEN FELLOW NEO-CONS AREN'T HANGING WITH YOU ANY LONGER.
HERE IS ONE THING I KNOW FOR A FACT YOU ARROGANT OLD WIND BAG. I TOLD YOU THE PEOPLE OF PENNSYLVANIA WOULD BEAT SANTORUM AND WE THE PEOPLE OF PENNSYLVANIA NOT ONLY BEAT HIM BUT WE KICKED HIS AZZ.
THAT IS RIGHT LIAR_K WE KICKED THE NUMBER 3 MAN IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY'S AZZ UP OVER HIM WIMPY SHOULDERS.
SENATOR ELECT(D)BOB CASEY IS GOING TO COME AFTER YOUR MONEY LIAR_K. YOU CAN BANK ON THAT.
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pixiamom
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posted on November 15, 2006 07:15:24 PM new
I think Cheryl's point is that Bush chose the party route and did not go to Viet Nam to 'defend democracy' while Kerry was risking his life over there. What influence Kerry has today on the Viet Nam trade agreement has about the same impact Bush has - little to none. Sounds like a lame duck to me.
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Linda_K
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posted on November 15, 2006 07:30:14 PM new
I don't know how old you are....meaning whether you were an adult during the VN war or not.
But FEW in the NG reserves were called to serve. It just wasn't done the way it's done today.
So...comparing what happened WAY back then to what's being done today....is like comparing fruit to vegetables. Not the same at all.
They had enough volunteering and then with the draft....they didn't USE the NG like we're doing today.
And it sounds like you also need to read up on how kerry TRIED to avoid being drafted. Did all he could...but when he was SENT anyway.....he got out in a REAL quick 3-4 MONTHS. Most vets served a year to 18 months at that time. And some, when they were injured....asked to be returned to their troop. NOT kerry....he FAKED injuries and that's why he won't FULLY disclose his medical records.
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While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:
What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Nov 15, 2006 07:33 PM ]
[ edited by Linda_K on Nov 15, 2006 07:48 PM ]
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kiara
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posted on November 15, 2006 07:37:04 PM new
But FEW in the NG were called to serve.
And that's why Bush hid out there so he wouldn't have to. He has always been a coward.
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Linda_K
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posted on November 15, 2006 07:41:58 PM new
House Rejects Vietnam Free Trade Bill
Tuesday, November 14, 2006
WASHINGTON — Legislation to normalize trade relations with Vietnam was defeated Monday in the House of Representatives, four days before President George W. Bush is to make his first visit to the only country ever to defeat the United States in a major war.
The measure failed to win the necessary two-thirds majority it needed under a procedure House Republicans adopted to rush it through with limited debate.
It received 228 votes in support - 32 short of what was needed. There were 161 votes against it.
The Bush administration was hoping to gain approval of the measure before Bush meets later this week with Vietnamese leaders in Hanoi.
House Republicans were caught by surprise by the extent of opposition to the measure.
The proposal also faces obstacles in the Senate, where the administration has had to offer textile-state senators assurances that it will impose penalty tariffs on Vietnamese textile products if the country should be found to be selling those products at unfairly low prices.
U.S. retailers were pushing for assurances that these anti-dumping duties would not be used in an arbitrary fashion to keep Vietnamese products off U.S. store shelves.
The House debate occurred on the first day Congress reconvened after last Tuesday's elections, in which Democrats picked up enough seats to gain control of both the House and the Senate.
House Republicans, who still control the House in the lame-duck session, could bring the measure up under normal procedures which require only a majority of votes for passage.
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According to CNN....the republicans voted FOR it 2 to 1. While the DEMS were EVENLY split. They believe it might pass when brought up again.
http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/14/news/international/vietnam.reut/index.htm?postversion=2006111410
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personally I hope it DOESN'T pass.
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While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:
What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Nov 15, 2006 07:50 PM ]
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logansdad
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posted on November 16, 2006 12:23:38 PM new
House Republicans were caught by surprise by the extent of opposition to the measure.
They have been surprised alot since 11/7/06.
Maybe if there were not busy trying to redecorate their offices, they might still have the majority 
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
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bigpeepa
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posted on November 16, 2006 12:42:27 PM new
And they will be surprised even more if the Democrats can keep these booted out bums off K street.
Let the dems make a law that you can't become a lobbyist for 5 years after you leave office.
BUSH'S BEST INSURANCE AGAINST IMPEACHMENT IS DICK CHENEY.
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chococake
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posted on November 16, 2006 01:52:58 PM new
Linda remember these words? YOU LOST GET OVER IT! lol lol lol neener neener
Hi all
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Linda_K
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posted on November 16, 2006 02:23:23 PM new
Ah....rustygumbo will be so pleased that our 'radical 'overthrow the US gov' has returned.
neener??? That's a little childish, but expected from you.
Of course you are aware that the dem party DOESN'T have the 60 REQUIRED votes to pass much of anything in the next two years.....UNLESS they get a few [10] republicans who agree with whatever they're trying to pass.
And as I've read....those newly elected dems are conservatives/moderates....NOT the radical lefites YOU so support.
While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:
What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
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Helenjw
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posted on November 16, 2006 03:13:07 PM new
Hello, Chococake!!!
It's great to see you here! Hope you will come by often.
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Helenjw
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posted on November 16, 2006 03:23:08 PM new
"Linda remember these words? YOU LOST GET OVER IT! lol lol lol neener neener"
Now Linda, you can eat those words.
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Linda_K
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posted on November 16, 2006 03:28:51 PM new
Maybe old 'overthrow the US government' poster might like to show the DATE when I posted that.
I think MOST would THEN see it was YEARS after Bush won the election...and they were STILL whining.
Shoot...it's only been a few days since congress changed hands....and really it hasn't even happened YET. Not until January.
While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:
What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
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chococake
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posted on November 16, 2006 06:38:04 PM new
Hi Helen, it took me three tries to remember my password. But, I had to come here since Linda is banned at OTWA.
Hey Linda don't be such a poor loser. It's too bad your neo cons lost and your war is getting worse everyday.
Hold on to your money Linda we're coming to get it. Pay up dear so we can get our budget under control after the repubs spent and borrowed beyond what anyone would have ever imagined.
Over throw the government? Now, now, go change your Depends and go and play cards with your friends. I can see you and your neocon partners talking as you play, about how your little world has been damaged.
Well, bye for now, it's been fun!
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Linda_K
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posted on November 16, 2006 08:07:30 PM new
Coming to get it???
You've been living on "it" for years now.
Government dependent on the gov. YOU and borillar talked about overthrowning.
Now THAT's typical liberal behavior.
While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:
What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
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bigpeepa
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posted on November 16, 2006 08:29:57 PM new
chococake,
The only thing that hurts NEO-CONS like liar_k is to get some of their money.
Look at how liar_k reacts its very funny I get a big grin before bed. Liar_k is no longer "dancing in the streets".
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chococake
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posted on November 17, 2006 07:02:41 AM new
Ah there you go folks, Linda's showing her neocon opinion of how a US citizen injured on a government job shouldn't receive Social Security Disability.
I wasn't injured because of a fall, or hurt my back because I lifted something wrong. No, my disability was due chemical exposure because the county didn't have safe guards in place to protect their workers. I also wasn't the only employee to get sick.
At least I receive Social Security because I worked all my adult life and had the points to qualify. Tell me Linda, did you or will you refuse Social Security Retirement Benefits because it's a government entitlement program? At least I get Social Security on my own work record, where as, you get yours on your husbands work record.
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Linda_K
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posted on November 17, 2006 08:51:45 AM new
It appears to me that you're trying to deflect your radical political positions - overthrowing the US gov - to personal issues about my life that you have absolutely NO clue about.
I am not old enough to collect SS...and I don't get any from my husbands account either.
NOW, because the idiot dems wouldn't allow the SS discussion to AT LEAST come to the table for discussion.....maybe citizen partial ownership might have happened. So when I lost my husband...way before he could collect a dime that he'd paid all those years....it would have gone to his family.
BUT...nope...the dems don't think American's can be responsible enough to take care of their own money, they'll just take control of it and manage it BETTER than the people who earned it can .
Meanwhile people like you are out on our public streets demonstrating against the country that SUPPORTS you.
Doesn't seem like your disability keeps you from continuing to be a protestor out on the streets of San Francisco....now does it?
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While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:
What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Nov 17, 2006 08:56 AM ]
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