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 Linda_K
 
posted on December 11, 2006 08:53:03 AM new
Not at all...but of course in YOUR twisted mind it would appear that way.

Not to 'normal' thinking people though.


Once again I've pointing out that while you are great and trying to MISLEAD the voters....you haven't a CLUE as to what the actual FACTS are in ANY situation.

Better stick to just giving your OPINIONS....while wrong...at least they're NOT factually incorrect.

edited to say: ROFLOL...well I can't really say that either...since your opinions ARE formed on your LACK of knowledge of the actual FACTS.
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"

"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."

Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Dec 11, 2006 08:55 AM ]
 
 kiara
 
posted on December 11, 2006 08:56:41 AM new
LOL...another one like kiara...thinks just because there's a current date is on the page they're viewing....then THAT'S the date the article was written/pertains to.

I tried to explain to you that the info on Muslims in the US military that was posted on the government website is still pertinent today but your closed mind only focused on the original date and you were unable to absorb the relevant information, Linda.

But it's amusing to see you start your day with another rant about me. Do you plan to end it that way also?

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on December 11, 2006 08:58:57 AM new


Linda, You couldn't recognize what is "factually correct" if it hit you upside your little noggin. Facts don't exist in your realm...only innuendo, spin, lies and second hand sleeze.


[ edited by Helenjw on Dec 11, 2006 08:59 AM ]
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on December 11, 2006 09:05:05 AM new
LOL....truth hurts kiara???

You too made the same STUPID mistake. LOL Posting a very OLD article but because the date at the top of the link was that days date....lol....you THOUGHT it was current when it wasn't.\

As I've said...you liberals point out all the time your OWN lack of knowledge. I just mention it so others will be sure and see it too.



yes, helen....AGAIN coming to the rescue of her favorite liar. It's okay with you that mingo tree continues to post FALSE, UNTRUTHFUL info...expecting all here are so dumb not to recognize it for what it is....DISTORTING...DISCEPTION and that's why she NEVER gives links. LOL LOL LOL


"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"

"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."

Ann Coulter
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on December 11, 2006 09:09:05 AM new

"Better stick to just giving your OPINIONS....while wrong...at least they're NOT factually incorrect."


Linda, I would like to take this rare opportunity to commend you for learning that opinions are not lies. That lesson took years to assimilate but Bless your heart, you finally got it.

I'll save your quote in case you need a reminder in the future.




[ edited by Helenjw on Dec 11, 2006 09:10 AM ]
 
 mingotree
 
posted on December 11, 2006 09:10:24 AM new
Poor linduh, hopes that no one notices that BUSH wanted to cut funding to those whose job it is to keep us safe...and FAILED...gee, not much power there is there?



Well, I'm glad linduh proved he failed and we got the funding needed.

Dates? I do believe bush was in office during that time.....but linduh, you just keep screaming about dates and hope no one notices the facts....



OK, you may now "hissy" on....

 
 kiara
 
posted on December 11, 2006 09:10:32 AM new
you THOUGHT it was current when it wasn't.

Going back to my comment about you being unable to absorb anything, Linda ...... may I repeat....... the information in the article was still relevant today and that is why it was posted. It was a copy and paste from a government website and of course the current date was on top of their page, dummy.

Now, what else do you have to be picky about today?



 
 Linda_K
 
posted on December 11, 2006 09:25:43 AM new
Speaking about 'feeling safe'. OMG!!! And this is the new dem who's going to head up our intelligence agency?


Boy are we in MORE trouble than we EVER imagined.

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/

He FAILS his test.

"Incoming House intelligence chief botches easy intel quiz...

and pelosi is going to be a good 'leader' huh? I don't THINK so. LOL LOL LOL

First three unethical recommendations...when she was GOING to 'clean the House up'....and now she puts someone who can't pass a SIMPLE quiz in charge of our intelligence?

oh brother.....BIG TROUBLE.....





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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"

"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."

Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Dec 11, 2006 01:38 PM ]
 
 mingotree
 
posted on December 11, 2006 09:56:28 AM new
The story continues:
linduh, seeing she's been made a fool of once again, heavy-handedly tries to change the subject.....


Linda_K
posted on December 11, 2006 09:25:43 AM
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Speaking about 'feeling safe'. OMG!!! And this is the new dem who's going to head up our intelligence agency?


Boy are we in MORE trouble than we EVER imagined.

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/

He FAILS his test."""






 
 Linda_K
 
posted on December 11, 2006 01:40:32 PM new
funny when these things are reported about a DEMOCRAT....not a PEEP from the liberals here.

But had this been someone that President Bush had appointed - and this happened......all hell would be breaking loose right now.

so typical....just so typical




"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"

"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."

Ann Coulter
 
 mingotree
 
posted on December 12, 2006 12:33:21 AM new
Linda_K
posted on December 11, 2006 01:40:32 PM
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funny when these things are reported about a DEMOCRAT....not a PEEP from the liberals here.

But had this been someone that President Bush had appointed - and this happened......all hell would be breaking loose right now.

so typical....just so typical"""




Why don't you post it as a NEW TOPIC since that's what it is!

linduh changing the topic when she's losing an argument... So typical So typical! TSK TSK TSK

LOL!!!


 
 Bear1949
 
posted on December 12, 2006 07:32:52 AM new
E. coli cases defy federal assurances
Monitoring produce safety a challenge in an industrial age

By ANNYS SHIN
Washington Post
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WASHINGTON — First it was spinach. Then tomatoes. Now possibly green onions.

In the past three months, fresh produce has been the culprit in one episode of food-borne illness after another, the latest an E. coli outbreak that appears to be linked to green onions served at Taco Bell restaurants in the Northeast. More than 60 people have been sickened in that outbreak.

The patchwork of federal and state regulations that is supposed to ensure food safety has become less effective as the nation's produce supply has grown increasingly industrial.

Three months after the spinach scare, there is no agreement on how to reduce health risks from the nation's fruits and vegetables even as each episode of illness has heightened a sense of urgency.

The number of produce-related outbreaks of food-borne illness has increased from about 40 in 1999 to 86 in 2004, according to the Center for Science in the Public Interest. Americans are now more likely to get sick from eating contaminated produce than from any other food item, the center said.

"It's fairly clear something needs to change," David W.K. Acheson, a top federal food safety official, said last week. "Having illness and repeated outbreaks, especially the ones we've seen in the last couple of months, is clearly unacceptable to everyone."

Consumer advocates think that tougher mandatory food safety standards and stepped-up enforcement are the answer. The country's largest food distributors and restaurants are pursuing self-regulation, arguing that government rules can take years to put in place. Produce growers and packers have suggested a voluntary system with elements of mandatory oversight.

Several factors have contributed to the rise in outbreaks: greater consumption of fresh produce; wider distribution; improved electronic reporting of outbreaks; and an aging population more susceptible to food-borne illness. Produce presents a special food safety challenge because, unlike meat, which can be rid of bacteria through proper cooking, it is meant to be consumed raw.

E. coli O157:H7 has been a particular problem. Unlike the usually benign E. coli bacteria that live in warm-blooded animals and humans, the strain produces toxins that destroy the intestinal lining, leading to bloody diarrhea, kidney failure and, sometimes, death.

The strain that caused September's spinach outbreak, which killed three and sickened about 200, has been found in cattle feces near a California spinach field and in wild pigs that roamed through it.

The source of the Taco Bell outbreak has not been found, but the company suspects green onions — also from California. Federal health officials said Monday that testing has failed to confirm green onions as the source, the Associated Press reported.

Taco Bell President Greg Creed said Saturday that the produce supply system needs better guidelines.

Although meat and dairy products are regulated by the Department of Agriculture, the safety of fruits and vegetables is the responsibility of the Food and Drug Administration and the states. But they have jurisdiction only over processing plants. Food safety at the farm level is largely self-regulated.

The FDA's critics say the agency doesn't have the personnel to do more. From 2003 to 2006, the budget for the agency's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition has fallen 37 percent, according to agency data.

That has meant fewer inspectors and less frequent inspections.

In 2005, the FDA conducted 4,573 inspections of domestic food-processing operations. For 2006, the agency said, it hopes to conduct 3,400. There are more than 12,000 such plants in the nation.

"The reality of FDA's situation is they don't have the basic inspectors to inspect the food supply they're in charge of," said Caroline Smith DeWaal, food safety director for the Center for Science in the Public Interest. "They just don't have the people ... to manage this problem at the farm level."

Acheson said the FDA's food safety work hasn't suffered as a result of funding constraints.

"As resources shift around in terms of overall total resources and within different centers, what the agency does is to shift to resources to address the maximum public health risk. The spinach investigation was, no question, a high priority," he said. "We can always do more with more, but do I think a lack of resources will impact efforts to prevent future outbreaks? No."

Buyers such as Safeway and Albertsons have chosen to hire their own auditors to do inspections.

Both food safety officials and auditors, however, say there is little consistency because the government guidelines aren't specific enough.

The privately funded system of audits and inspections, however, remains the produce industry's main tool for preventing future outbreaks.


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