posted on April 13, 2007 11:31:04 AM newI posted I didn't support any speech that calls for VIOLENCE against ANY people/group.
Now she is a flip flopper. Just the other day she was complaining that "free speech" isn't that. LINDA WANTED ALL SPEECH TO BE FREE. SHE SAID PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT THEY WANT.
When others spoke out against hate speech Linda had this to say:
Linda_K
posted on April 9, 2007 11:19:46 AM
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LOL...now we have two MORE supporters of legally banning 'hate speech'. lol
Come to defend free speech? How funny.
etc etc etc. Those issues and thousands more are NOT legal free speech....no matter how many liberals want to pretend ALL speech is free speech, it is NOT>
SO LINDA, EITHER YOU ARE FOR FREE SPEECH OR NOT. YOU CAN NOT FLIP FLOP ON THE ISSUE.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on April 13, 2007 12:23:06 PM new
"A racist is a racist is a racist... or is it?...
While I understand that many agree with the mixing of races/cultures etc.....and if it's their choice, I have no problem with it either.
BUT......do liberals REALLY believe one is a racist if they don't agree with that 'mixing' of races and cultures?
Since they support all the different racial/cultures that we have in America......why do they appear to believe that those from white only cultures, say English ancestary/ancestral backgrounds don't have the same right to want to honor and keep their own cultural differences and race in tact? Or that that then makes them an automatic racist? And yet it doesn't all the others when they choose to do the same thing.
posted on April 13, 2007 12:42:04 PM newBUT......do liberals REALLY believe one is a racist if they don't agree with that 'mixing' of races and cultures?
I'm personally finding it difficult to separate this into a liberal or conservative viewpoint because I don't see where that really enters into any of this. Do you think liberals have different views than conservatives when it comes to understanding racism in our society or interracial marriage?
If anyone does not wish to marry outside of their race or culture I respect their views. It's their decision. If they want to get up on a public platform and tell it to the world that's alright with me too. If they become hateful in their speech about it, whether it's within their own home situation or whether it's displayed in public then they face any consequences that may happen because of it.
posted on April 13, 2007 12:48:50 PM new
consequences?????
LOL.....you mean like 'hate speech' being directed at THEM then? lol lol
Or making a law that says that's 'hate speech now' so they can NEVER speak it again without having the power of the gov. to give them legal consequences???
LOL
I asked the liberals here because I'd like to see THEIR positions on this issue. So many of you refer to them as members of the KKK if they just have the gall to see it differently than you do.
posted on April 13, 2007 02:18:14 PM newI believe those who are intelligent know exactly what I said....AND what I meant.
I stand behind what I said.
linda: I posted I didn't support any speech that calls for VIOLENCE against ANY people/group
Now she is a flip flopper. Just the other day she was complaining that "free speech" isn't that. LINDA WANTED ALL SPEECH TO BE FREE. SHE SAID PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT THEY WANT.
Linda is a against flag burning - which the USSC court has ruled is a form of free speech (WITH NO VIOLENCE OR ABUSE OR SEX AGAINST ANY GROUP). So if Linda trult believes in people having the right to "say" anything she should not be against flag burning. Typical hypocrite. She only favors free speech when it is items that she agrees with.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on April 13, 2007 05:39:07 PM new
Linda, the problem you face is that many of us have asked you questions and you have never answered them. As far as I'm concerned, I have no obligation to answer your questions. You have always been an instigator, an agitator, a bigot, and from what I can see here... a racist. You have yet to answer questions put before you about handling the racists within your own culture, so why should anyone bother with answering you?
You act like the ACLU is soooo liberal, but the reality is that they are the American "Civil Liberties" Union. They have represented people of all races, colors, religions, beliefs, etc. from Christians to Athiests, Black Panthers to the KKK to NAMBLA.
They do their job like a defense attorney does their job. They approach it under the very same idea that everyone deserves representation so that the courts can decide whether something is legal or not. The ACLU isn't the biased organization you make them out to be, and they are most certainly NOT liberal. It actually takes a very unique individual to put themselves in the line of fire in order to represent someone may we find vile, offensive, etc. even if they personally disagree with them. I wouldn't be too surprised to learn that the ACLU ends up representing Imus, and neither should any one else. Their job as an organization is not to judge, but to represent. Until you realize this, you will always be wrong about the ACLU.
posted on April 13, 2007 05:57:13 PM new
Well...rusty...that's some of the nicest things you've ever had to say about and to me.
Usually you're so busy calling me a pig...I don't bother reading most of what you post here
I consider MOST of it to be "hate speech".
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The aclu was founded by COMMUNISTS. That's not an opinion...that's a FACT>
And IMO, they still are.
Conservative groups like the ACLJ work hard with funding I and millions of other AMERICAN donators give to them each year...to STOP THe aclu's anti-American agenda.
posted on April 13, 2007 06:19:55 PM newYou have always been an instigator, an agitator, a bigot, and from what I can see here... a racist.
And Linda believes she was banned from the OTWA for her opposing views
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on April 13, 2007 08:38:09 PM newNOPE, YOU AND THEY START MAKING EVERYTHING personal..because you CAN'T debate your anti-American positions.
Just like you and the rest of your right winged, conservative, Bush loving friends can not stand anyone who does not share the same view point as you.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on April 13, 2007 08:48:58 PM new
Linda_k, once and for all you were not banned from posting at Otwa because of your opposing views. You were banned because of the disruptive way you posed your views nonstop, even after you were warned and given time to tone it down.
posted on April 13, 2007 08:53:14 PM newI asked the liberals here because I'd like to see THEIR positions on this issue. So many of you refer to them as members of the KKK if they just have the gall to see it differently than you do.
So many? Who? Show links please, Linda_K and prove your statements.
posted on April 13, 2007 09:17:15 PM newDo you ever wonder what happened to the old saying,
"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me?"
This phrase seems to be forgotten way too often.
Looks like you heard it again from the school kids during recess today.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on April 13, 2007 09:21:31 PM new
LOl.....and there kiara goes again.....taking what I said TOTALLY out of context.
Only posting part of what I said....so that it looks like I said something totally different than I did. Of course, she missed the point I made when I said that.
posted on April 13, 2007 09:29:11 PM newdisruptive = disagreeing with the liberals positions
Disruptive was when you hogged the entire board and ridiculed others for their point of view, ridiculed those who had lost their jobs or were dealing with other problems in life such as illness.
Disruptive was to butt in and lol and tsk in the midst of conversations by long-time posters while avoiding answering or accounting for your hypocritical views and double standards when backed into a corner by anyone else on another topic.
Disruptive was to lie about or twist what others had posted and then argue with them as if they had really ever stated or believed what you claimed, telling them that you didn't have to show any proof.
Disruptive was to lol at the vulgarity of your sock friends and then howl for days when they got booted for things like calling women the C word in bright red font while you tried to convince everyone that Otwa didn't want 'conservative' views and were getting rid of 'good' posters.
Get the picture, Linda_K? It's similar to what you do on Vendio only there you were a newbie on a smooth-running board with a majority of posters who managed to be quite civil to one another most of the time which made your disgusting display look even worse than it does here.
obviously we don't see eye to eye on what happened LONG, LONG, ago.
ROFLOL
How many years do you keep bringing up all this garbage until you can LET IT GO.
It's in the past. But like always there are liberals who just LOVE to continue bringing up everyone else past. But do it to them....and listen to them holler. LOL LOL LOL
We do, however agree, that liberals didn't like my posts. And you /they don't here either.
That's YOUR problem. Try and suck it up .....grow up.....and actually take a position on a THREAD TOPIC.....instead of spending your LIFE here badgering me on personal LONG LONG ago happenings.
Obessed you are, it appears. Can't get out of the past.
My banning doesn't change your life in any way.
You posted over there....you SURE fit in with all the liberals who couldn't handle opposing thoughts/comments/positions.
posted on April 13, 2007 09:49:30 PM new
I was on topic Linda_K until you tried to rewrite history about your experience on Otwa. I did not realize that you were also doing it on the Imus thread where the reasons for your suspension were already posted.
As for the 'consequences' you questioned me about on the above post I think of the consequences that racism or bigotry has on young children in families where their parents believe in it. I wonder how they are treated in school and if they are hurt by it.
posted on April 13, 2007 10:12:28 PM new
I didn't see anyone calling anyone else a member of the KKK for their views here. It would be clearer if the exact poster was addressed who may have said it instead of generalizing and saying that so many of us do it when we don't.
posted on April 13, 2007 10:19:47 PM new
What? All of a sudden you forgot how to use the search button? lol You've been able to find it many times before.
posted on April 14, 2007 07:56:22 AM newIt's in the past. But like always there are liberals who just LOVE to continue bringing up everyone else past.
Yes, that is why you have to constantly bring up everything that Clinton has done. How many years ago was that now. tsk tsk tsk.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on April 14, 2007 01:22:42 PM newMost ADULTS understand the difference between bring up a chat board posters long ago personal past....and an ex-presidents term in office.
Yes most mature adults would, but for people like you, we have to take things a little slower so you can grasp the difference. I understand you have a difficult time functioning in your old age especially when your mind is the starting to go.
It is such a shame to see old people loose their mind.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
