posted on April 14, 2007 08:02:53 AM newyou were suspended for your foul, vulgar and vile posts.
Hey that is "free speech" in your eyes.
You said free speech is anything that does not "calls for VIOLENCE against ANY people/group."
You support Imus' free speech, but not mine. This is just typical of you Linda. So in other words people can say whatever they want as long as you agree with it and it is not pointed at you. So who is trying to limit free speech now. IT IS YOU. Something you claim you do not do.
Furthermore, if you don't like what is being said you can choose not post or just use the IGNORE feature. But you don't. Why because you are afraid people will be talking behind you back.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
[ edited by logansdad on Apr 14, 2007 10:47 AM ]
posted on April 14, 2007 08:33:50 AM new
You know you love it, classic.
And you know he LOVES yours the most. Always posting about it.
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"Hey that is "free speech" in your eyes."
Yes, it is. DUH!!!
"You said free speech is anything that does "calls for VIOLENCE against ANY people/group."
No I never said that. I said that DOESN'T call for violence......
TRY to get your lies straight....just once.
"You support Imus' free speech, but not mine. This is just typical of you Linda."
Not true at all. You're just confused AGAIN. Plus Imus has never followed me around making crude, vile, vulgar posts about me that I chose to respond to....like you have.
"So in other words people can say whatever they want as long as you agree with it and it is not pointed at you."
Nope....your OWN confusion and inability to comprehend the written word, I'm afraid. tsk tsk tsk
"So who is trying to limit free speech now."
Anyone who believes something that offends THEM should be regulated and called "hate speech" AND NOT ALLOWED anymore. When others don't believe it's hate speech, but rather a constitutional RIGHT all Americans have to voice their opinions....and believe it's an attempt to VIOLATE our rights of free speech.
Try and let that SINK in. Drill a hole into your brain...maybe that will help it sink in.
"IT IS YOU. Something you claim you do not do."
No, as I've explained over and over again....but you just can't grasp. It's YOUR problem, ld. I'm quite clear on my position. lol lol lol
"Furthermore, if you don't like what is being said you can choose not post or just use the IGNORE feature. But you don't."
That is ONE choice I have. The other is to confront the person lying...misrepresenting what was said...and challenging them on their ignorance or their OWN HATE speech. Like I have to do with YOU all the time.
"Why because you are afraid people will be talking behind you back."
LOL....again you speak for me. No....it's YOUR own personal paranoia that makes you falsely believe that. Don't project YOUR mental issues off on to me.
posted on April 14, 2007 08:53:18 AM new
This thread is interesting. Look at the diversity of opinion the notorious "liberals" here are expressing. Anyone who likes to lump us all into the same lockstep-thinking group would do well to re-read the thread.
At any rate, like I said a while back, he's toast. I'm not saying that's good and I'm not saying it's bad, I'm just saying you could see it coming a hundred miles away.
posted on April 14, 2007 09:23:37 AM new
This is getting totally out of hand.
(CBS) NEW YORK WCBSTV.com learned early Saturday that the National Action Network has increased the Rev. Al Sharpton's security due to a number of death threats in the wake of the firing of radio host Don Imus by MSNBC and CBS Radio.
There will also be added security at the National Action Network's headquarters in Harlem.
"We have no way of knowing the seriousness of these threats, but they have intensified greatly in the last two days as Rev. Sharpton was figured prominently in the firing of Don Imus," Attorney Charlie King said in a statement early Saturday morning.
"Since Rev. Sharpton survived a personal assassination attempt where he was stabbed, we take any and all threats, especially at this volume, very serious. Therefore, all may be comfortable that we will not take the safety of our staff or that of our President lightly."
Sharpton was stabbed in the chest by Michael Riccardi on Jan. 12, 1991, as the Reverend was leading a protest in the Bensonhurst section of Brooklyn. Sharpton later filed suit against the city accusing the NYPD of failing to protect him. The two sides eventually settled.
Sharpton took up the cause of the members of the Rutgers University women's basketball team after Imus referred to them as "nappy-headed hos" on his radio show last week.
Sharpton told CBS 2's Marcia Kramer on Friday that just hours after he met with CBS Chairman and CEO Les Moonves on Thursday he got a call that Imus was getting fired.
"I remember saying to Mr. Moonves, 'if you said it, you'd be fired. Does he have more rights than you?'" Sharpton said.
Part of Sharpton's power and visibility comes from his National Action Network -- with its half a million supporters across the country, and his ability to mobilize both opinions and protesters.
posted on April 14, 2007 10:46:00 AM new
Linda: you were suspended for your foul, vulgar and vile posts.
Hey that is "free speech" in your eyes.
Linda Yes, it is. DUH!!!
Glad you final see the light that what I have said is free speech.
"So who is trying to limit free speech now."
Linda: Anyone who believes something that offends THEM should be regulated and called "hate speech" AND NOT ALLOWED anymore.
Now you are beginning to see why your behind was booted from the OTWA. Someone found your postings offensive and regulated them. But yet you complained and whined for weeks about your FREE SPEECH BEING VIOLATED for no reason.
When others don't believe it's hate speech, but rather a constitutional RIGHT all Americans have to voice their opinions....and believe it's an attempt to VIOLATE our rights of free speech.
What exactly are you trying to say because you are not clear?
I'm quite clear on my position. lol lol lol
Doesn't look that way to me. You talked yourself around in a circle above, trying to take both sides of the argument.
Either you believe in free speech or you don't. Just the other you were complaining about the liberals saying all "free speech" is not free, and yet you believe the same thing.
Either you believe in total free speech or you don't.
Free speech is just that free speech even when the subject matter is vulgar and offensive. It is a form of expression. I am not saying it is acceptable nor is it right nor will it appeal to everyone, but I still believe a person has a right to speak their mind.
You can not say you are for free speech and then start putting limits on what is free speech or not. That is not for you to decide. That is for the courts.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on April 14, 2007 10:47:01 AM new"You said free speech is anything that does "calls for VIOLENCE against ANY people/group."
Linda: No I never said that. I said that DOESN'T call for violence......
Sorry that was my mistake, I did forget the word not, when I typed my response.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on April 14, 2007 11:07:03 AM new
Linda: But imo, we're becoming WAY too PC in what defines what shouldn't be said and where. Getting to be more like communist china, imo, where they regulate anything they don't want the public to hear.
LD:You support Imus' free speech, but not mine. This is just typical of you Linda."
Not true at all. You're just confused AGAIN.
Now, you don't even remember what you said on the previous page.
You have agreed that what I said and what Imus said are both free speech.
You claim that if something offends someone it is called hate speech and should not be allowed. but then you make the quote above "we're becoming WAY too PC in what defines what shouldn't be said and where. Getting to be more like communist china, imo, where they regulate anything they don't want the public to hear.
You are trying to make a statement for both sides of the argument. It is plain as day Linda.
I will stand by what I have said over and over and over again Linda. You believe in free speech when it suits your agenda and what you believe in and whether or not it is offenseive to you. That is putting limits on free speech.
You would love to live in communist China since you are becoming to PC and easily offended.
How do you like being challenged on your ignorance. You can not even stand up for what you believe in, you have flip flopped on your positions to many times already.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on April 14, 2007 11:14:09 AM new
LD:"Furthermore, if you don't like what is being said you can choose not post or just use the IGNORE feature. But you don't."
That is ONE choice I have. The other is to confront the person lying...misrepresenting what was said...and challenging them on their ignorance or their OWN HATE speech.
But you previous said what I had spoken was not hate speech, but rather free speech. You have flip flopped once again Linda.
Linda: you were suspended for your foul, vulgar and vile posts.
Hey that is "free speech" in your eyes.
Linda Yes, it is. DUH!!!
Linda:If enough people don't like what was said....they'll complain and just never view that program again.
You are just like an abuse victim. You keep claiming your were abused and mistreated (in this case by so called vulgar statement) but yet you keep coming back for more of the same. You can not even follow your own advice. You get what you deserve. If you can not use the "ignore" feature you have no one to blame except yourself.
You continue to make a fool of yourself over and over when you can't even defend what you believe in.
Now I am sure, you are going to try and come back to say I have twisted your words but it is all here for everyone to see that you can not even defend what you believe is free speech.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
[ edited by logansdad on Apr 14, 2007 11:17 AM ]
posted on April 15, 2007 04:39:02 PM newWhere to start Liberty and freedom, today, to me mean not having the liberal party....the atheists....the non-secularists crush our Constitutional rights to practice our different religions. That's a handful to go into by itself. But I do think the liberals are overlooking what the majority of American's want...and they're winning in some cases, losing in others. But to me this is a major issue
So much for Linda's patriotic views. So much for people's freedom of speech.
According to Linda anyone she disagrees with should be vanished. So much for Linda having an open mind like she claims she has.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on April 15, 2007 05:17:44 PM new
secular |?seky?l?r| adjective 1 denoting attitudes, activities, or other things that have no religious or spiritual basis : secular buildings | secular moral theory. Contrasted with sacred .
a secularist, therefore, would be someone who promotes such things as humanism. What does that make "non-secularists"? Certainly not atheists, and why on earth would they go around crushing people's rights to practice religion?
posted on April 15, 2007 05:53:50 PM new
LOL....yes profe. My usage of non-secularists was incorrect.
sue me.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Profe, if you follow through with the lawsuit, better watch out Linda will have the ACLJ defend her.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
