posted on April 19, 2007 09:49:25 PM new
taken from MyWayNews.com today:
Just look how old reid is HELPING and ENCOURAGING our ENEMIES.
Just like the radical anti-war liberals did during the VN war. Give the advantage to our ENEMIES.
What is wrong with these traitors?
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Apr 19, 9:50 PM (ET)
By ANNE FLAHERTY
(AP) Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nev. gestures during a news conference on Capitol Hill in...
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WASHINGTON (AP) - Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday the war in Iraq is "lost," triggering an angry backlash by Republicans, who said the top Democrat had turned his back on the troops.
The bleak assessment - the most pointed yet from Reid - came as the House voted 215-199 to uphold legislation ordering troops out of Iraq next year.
Reid said he told President Bush on Wednesday he thought the war could not be won through military force, although he said the U.S. could still pursue political, economic and diplomatic means to bring peace to Iraq.
"I believe myself that the secretary of state, secretary of defense and - you have to make your own decisions as to what the president knows - (know) this war is lost and the surge is not accomplishing anything as indicated by the extreme violence in Iraq yesterday," said Reid, D-Nev.
Republicans pounced on the comment as evidence, they said, [/b]that Democrats do not support the troops[/b].
(AP) President Bush, center, flanked by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of Calf., left, and Senate Majority...
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"I can't begin to imagine how our troops in the field, who are risking their lives every day, are going to react when they get back to base and hear that the Democrat leader of the United States Senate has declared the war is lost," said Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.
The exchange came before the House voted to endorse legislation it passed last month that would fund the war in Iraq but require combat missions to end by September 2008. The Senate passed similar, less-sweeping legislation that would set a nonbinding goal of bringing combat troops home by March 31, 2008.
"Our troops won the war clearly, cleanly and quickly," said Rep. David Obey, D-Wis., chairman of the Appropriations Committee. "But now they are stuck in a civil war," and the only solution is a political and diplomatic compromise. "And there is no soldier who can get that done," he added.
The House voted mostly along party lines to insist congressional negotiators trying to reconcile the House and Senate bills retain the firm timetable.
Despite the vote, which was orchestrated by Republicans to try to embarrass Democrats, aides said Democrats were leaning toward accepting the Senate's nonbinding goal.
The compromise bill also is expected to retain House provisions preventing military units from being worn out by excessive combat deployments; however, the president could waive these standards if he states so publicly.
Bush pledged to veto either measure and said troops were being harmed by Congress' failure to deliver the funds quickly.
The Pentagon says it has enough money to pay for the Iraq war through June. The Army is taking "prudent measures" aimed at ensuring that delays in the bill financing the war do not harm troop readiness, according to instructions sent to Army commanders and budget officials April 14.
While $70 billion that Congress provided in September for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan has mostly run out, the Army has told department officials to slow the purchase of nonessential repair parts and other supplies, restrict the use of government charge cards and limit travel.
The Army also will delay contracts for facilities repair and environmental restoration, according to instructions from Army Comptroller Nelson Ford. He said the accounting moves are similar to those enacted last year when the Republican-led Congress did not deliver a war funding bill to Bush until mid-June.
More stringent steps would be taken in May, such as a hiring freeze and firing temporary employees, but exceptions are made for any war-related activities or anything that "would result immediately in the degradation of readiness standards" for troops in Iraq or those slated for deployment.
White House spokeswoman Dana Perino called the Democrats' stance "disturbing" and all but dared Reid to cut off funding for the war.
"If this is his true feeling, then it makes one wonder if he has the courage of his convictions and therefore will decide to de-fund the war," she said.
Reid has left that possibility open. The majority leader supports separate legislation that would cut off funding for combat missions after March 2008. The proposal would allow money to be spent on such efforts as counterterrorism and training Iraqi security forces.
Reid and other Democrats were initially reluctant to discuss such draconian measures to end the war, but no longer.
"I'm not sure much is impossible legislatively," Reid said Thursday. "The American people have indicated . . . that they are fed up with what's going on."
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Associated Press writer Andrew Taylor contributed to this report.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on April 20, 2007 06:13:26 AM new
UPDATE FOR THE BUSH "SURGE" IN VIOLENCE FROM THE BUSH IRAQ CIVIL WAR 4/20/07
AMERICA NOW HAS 3,316 DEAD TROOPS UP 1 SINCE YESTERDAY.
LEFT OVER REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS ARE NOW BLOCKING DEMOCRATS FROM ENDING THE BUSH IRAQ WAR.
THE BLOOD OF THE DEAD AND WOUNDED AMERICAN TROOPS ARE NOW ON THE REPUBLICANS HANDS.
04/19/07 MCT: 20 corpses found in Baghdad today
20 corpses were found in Baghdad today. 17 were in the west(Kharkh): 4 in Dora, 3 in Bayaa, 2 in Amiriya, 2 in Mahmudiya, 2 in Jihad, 2 in Amil, 1 in Mansour, 1 in Hurriya. 3 were found in east(Rusafa): 1 in Adhamiya, 1 in Ma'amil, 1 in Sadr City.
04/20/07 NPR: Troops in Doura Caught Between Sunnis, Shia
Members of the Shiite Mahdi Army have been driving Sunni families out of Doura, a south Baghdad neighborhood. U.S. troops trying to restore order find themselves at odds with the Iraqi government they're trying to protect.
posted on April 20, 2007 08:44:01 AM new
In an interview with Matt Lauer, Bush said the war on terror can notbe won. I guess Bush was helping the terrorists when he made his comments.
Lauer: You said to me a second ago, one of the things you'll lay out in your vision for the next four years is how to go about winning the war on terror. That phrase strikes me a little bit. Do you really think we can win this war on terror in the next four years?
President Bush: I have never said we can win it in four years.
Lauer: So I’m just saying can we win it? Do you see that?
President Bush: I don’t think you can win it. But I think you can create conditions so that those who use terror as a tool are less acceptable in parts of the world — let's put it that way. I have a two-pronged strategy. On the one hand is to find them before they hurt us, and that's necessary. I’m telling you it's necessary. The country must never yield, must never show weakness and must continue to lead. To find Al-Qaeda affiliates who are hiding around the world and want to harm us and bring ’em to justice — we're doing a good job of it. I mean we are dismantling the Al Qaeda as we knew it. The longterm strategy is to spread freedom and liberty, and that's really kind of an interesting debate. There's some who say, ‘You know certain people can't self-govern and accept, you know, a formal democracy.’ I just strongly disagree with that. I believe that democracy can take hold in parts of the world that are now non-democratic and I think it's necessary in order to defeat the ideologies of hate. History has shown that it can work, that spreading liberty does work. After all, Japan is our close ally and my dad fought against the Japanese. Prime Minister Koizumi is one of the closest collaborators I have in working to make the world a more peaceful place.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on April 20, 2007 09:34:50 AM new
Liar_k,
Many Generals say you can't win THE BUSH IRAQ CIVIL WAR by military force or more troops.
Gen Abizaid said bringing in more troops not a good idea see below the General's words.
ABIZAID: to Senator McCain, "I met with every divisional commander, General Casey, the core commander, General Dempsey, we all talked together. And I said, in your professional opinion, if we were to bring in more American Troops now, does it add considerably to our ability to achieve success in Iraq? And they all said no."
Hey LIAR_K, You just got caught trying to mislead people again with your BULL ROAR. Again you show people of your type have no shame.
posted on April 20, 2007 11:05:26 AM new
If those with selective reading could actually read the entire article, they would have noticed:
Reid said he told President Bush on Wednesday he thought the war could not be won through military force, although he said the U.S. could still pursue political, economic and diplomatic means to bring peace to Iraq.
Furthermore, Reid said this was just his opinion. But according to the REPUGS, only those who agree with Bush are allowed to give their OPINION, all others are anti-American, anti-troop and are helping the terrorists. So much for the free speech they claim to value.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on April 21, 2007 10:49:57 AM new
ld is referring to himself again - projecting HIS own issues off onto others.
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MSNBC, in part, this morning:
U.S. describes Sunni rebels battling al-Qaida
Infighting a plus, general says, but ˜we're not making allies with anybody"
MUQDADIYAH, Iraq - At least two major insurgent groups are battling al-Qaida in provinces outside Baghdad, American military commanders said Friday, an indication of a deepening rift between Sunni guerrilla groups in Iraq.
U.S. officers say a growing number of Sunni tribes are turning against al-Qaida, repelled by the terror group's sheer brutality and austere religious extremism. The tribes are competing with al-Qaida for influence and control over diminishing territory in the face of U.S. assaults, the officers say. The influx of Sunni fighters to areas outside the capital in advance of the security crackdown in Baghdad may have further unsettled the region.
"This is a big turning point," U.S. Maj. David Baker said Friday in the Diyala provincial capital of Baqouba. "If they are fighting against each other, it's better than them fighting against us."
Even Sunnis who want to cooperate with the Shiite-led government are becoming more emboldened to speak out against al-Qaida. In Anbar province, more than 200 Sunni sheiks have decided to form a political party to oppose the terror group, participants said Friday.
The clashes have erupted over the last two to three months, pitting al-Qaida in Iraq against the nationalist 1920 Revolution Brigades in Diyala and Salahuddin provinces north of Baghdad as well as Anbar to the west, U.S. officers said.
In Diyala, another hard-line militant Sunni group, the Ansar al-Sunna Army, is also fighting al-Qaida, they said.
'Goals ... at odds'
"It's happening daily," Lt. Col. Keith Gogas said Thursday in an interview at an Army base in Muqdadiyah, 60 miles northeast of Baghdad. "Our read on it is that that the more moderate, if you will, Sunni insurgents, are finding that their goals and al-Qaida's goals are at odds."
American commanders cite al-Qaida's severe brand of Islam, which is so extreme that in Baqouba, al-Qaida has warned street vendors not to place tomatoes beside cucumbers because the vegetables are different genders, Col. David Sutherland said.
Such radicalism has fueled sectarian violence in Iraq and redrawn the demographics of many mixed Sunni-Shiite towns in Diyala, where tens of thousands of Shiites have been forced to flee large population centers.
And ALL these AQ are the ones the liberals want to ADMIT DEFEAT to. Run away in fear....tsk tsk tsk
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Apr 21, 2007 10:57 AM ]
posted on April 21, 2007 01:02:53 PM newLatter-Day Copperhead
"I believe . . . that this war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by the extreme violence in Iraq this week."--Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, April 19, 2007
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"Resolved, that this convention does explicitly declare, as the sense of the American people, that after four years of failure to restore the Union by the experiment of war, during which, under the pretence of military necessity, or war power higher than the Constitution, the Constitution itself has been disregarded in every part, and public liberty and private right alike trodden down, and the material prosperity of the country essentially impaired, justice, humanity, liberty, and the public welfare demand that immediate efforts be made for a cessation of hostilities, with a view to an ultimate convention of the States or other peaceable means, to the end that at the earliest practicable moment peace may be restored on the basis of the federal Union of the States."
--1864 Democratic platform
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Gosh...they've been DEFEATISTS longer than even I was aware they were.
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They Won the War Before They Lost It
"I am proud of these troops and what they have done. They won the war and the mission was accomplished. We cannot win it militarily."--Rep.
Now...THAT person is REALLY confused. LOL LOL LOL
And that 'person' is MURTHA - DEMOCRAT
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"What a terrible message for our troops fighting this very minute," said Rep. Kay Granger, R-Texas. "Instead of a roadmap to success, we are being asked to support a plan for defeat. We're being asked to announce to our enemies a date for surrender."
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Apr 21, 2007 01:13 PM ]
posted on April 21, 2007 04:55:29 PM new
One democrat with a BACKBONE....and the dem party then STABBED him in the back....why? For agreeing we cannot admit defeat to the terrorists.
What a terrible position to take - to be on your own Nations side. NOT. So now he's no longer a dem...but ran and WON his seat as an Indep.
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Lieberman slaps Reid: "We should not surrender in the face of barbarism"
By Michelle Malkin · April 20, 2007 09:03 PM
Statement from Sen. Joe Lieberman:
WASHINGTON - Senator Joe Lieberman (ID-CT) today made the following statement in response to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's comment that the Iraq War is "lost:"
"This week witnessed horrific terrorist attacks by Islamist extremists in Iraq, killing hundreds of innocent civilians and leading Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to declare that the war is 'lost.'
With all due respect, I strongly disagree. Senator Reid's statement is not based on military facts on the ground in Iraq and does not advance our cause there.
Al Qaeda's strategy for victory in Iraq is clear.
They are trying to murder as many innocent civilians as possible in an effort to reignite sectarian fighting and drive us to retreat from Iraq.
The question now before us is whether we respond to these terrorist attacks by running away as Al Qaeda hopes - abandoning the future of Iraq, the Middle East, and ultimately our own security to the very same people responsible for this week's atrocities - or whether we stand united to fight them.
This is exactly the wrong time to conclude that we have lost the war in Iraq, or that our new strategy has failed.
Instead, we should provide General Petraeus and his troops with the time and the resources to succeed.
We should not surrender in the face of barbarism."
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Might just give you some insight that they don't see you supporting them AT ALL.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on April 21, 2007 06:11:11 PM newAnalysis: How Pelosi 'supports the troops'
(Washington Times) (4/20)
- For all their eloquence about how they "support the troops," Mrs. Pelosi, Mr. Reid and their Democratic colleagues have embarked on a course that will inevitably delay much-needed reinforcement for the men and women on the ground in Iraq.
Imo, there's NO EXCUSE for delaying a vote on the war funding. Either they can actually vote to NOT fund our troops or send that money along.....it's NEEDED by our troops.
They can THEN vote on all the pork spending they so want to spend in a separate bill.
They're playing GAMES with our soldiers well being.
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Apr 21, 2007 06:15 PM ]
posted on April 21, 2007 07:10:44 PM new
UPDATE FOR THE BUSH "SURGE" IN VIOLENCE FROM THE BUSH IRAQ CIVIL WAR 4/21/07
AMERICA NOW HAS 3,319 DEAD TROOPS UP 2 SINCE YESTERDAY.
LEFT OVER REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS ARE NOW BLOCKING DEMOCRATS FROM ENDING THE BUSH IRAQ WAR.
THE BLOOD OF THE DEAD AND WOUNDED AMERICAN TROOPS ARE NOW ON THE LEFTOVER REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS HANDS.
SOME POLITICAL NEWS FROM BUSH'S SURGE IN VIOLENCE IN HIS IRAQ WAR.
04/21/07 Reuters: Mussayab Mayor killed in ambush
Mussayab Mayor Mehdi Abdul Hussein al-Najem and two of his bodyguards were killed in an ambush, police said. A roadside bomb exploded next to their vehicles in the attack at Mussayab, 60 km (40 miles) south of Baghdad, and gunmen then opened fire.
04/21/07 AP: Fallujah loses 4th city council chairman to assassination
The 65-year-old Sunni sheik was the only one who campaigned to take the helm of the Fallujah city council after three previous chairmen were gunned down by suspected Sunni insurgents.
posted on April 23, 2007 06:53:14 PM new
HEY GRUNT, PROVE THESE FACTS WRONG IN THE BUSH IRAQ CIVIL WAR.
UPDATE FOR THE BUSH "SURGE" IN VIOLENCE FROM HIS IRAQ CIVIL WAR 4/23/07
AFTER INTO THE 5TH YEAR OF THE REPUBLICAN IRAQ CIVIL WAR AMERICA NOW HAS 3,332 DEAD TROOPS UP 9 SINCE YESTERDAY.
LEFT OVER REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS FROM 2004 AND BUSH ARE NOW BLOCKING DEMOCRATS FROM ENDING THE BUSH IRAQ WAR. VOTE THEM OUT IN 2008.
THE BLOOD OF NINE MORE DEAD AMERICAN TROOPS ARE NOW ON THE LEFTOVER REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS HANDS. REMEMBER THE LEFT OVER LAWMAKERS WHEN YOU VOTE IN 2008.
I am putting some names and places to our BRAVE SOLDIERS WHO HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES IN THE BUSH IRAQ CIVIL WAR.
04/23/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualty
Pvt. Michael J. Slater, 19, of Scott Depot, W. Va., died Apr. 21 in Taji, Iraq, of wounds suffered when his vehicle rolled over during combat operations. Slater was assigned to the 407th Brigade Support Battalion, 2nd Brigade Combat Team...
04/23/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualty
Sgt. William W. Bushnell, 24, of Jasper, Ark., died Apr. 21 in Baghdad, Iraq, of wounds suffered when his vehicle was struck by a rocket propelled grenade during combat operations. Bushnell was assigned to the 2nd Battalion...
04/23/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualty
Pfc. Christopher M. North, 21, of Sarasota, Fla., died Apr. 21, in Baghdad, Iraq, of wounds suffered when his unit came in contact with enemy forces using an improvised explosive device and small arms fire during combat operations...
04/23/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualty
Staff Sgt. Marlon B. Harper, 34, of Baltimore, Md.,died Apr. 21 in Baghdad, Iraq, of wounds suffered when he came in contact with enemy forces using a rocket propelled grenade and small arms fire during combat operations...
04/23/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualty
Chief Warrant Officer Dwayne L. Moore, 31, of Williamsburg, Va., died Apr. 19 in Mahmudiyah, Iraq, of wounds suffered when he came in contact with enemy forces using indirect fire. Moore was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 15th Field Artillery Regiment...
04/23/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualties (part 2)
Cpl. Michael M. Rojas, 21, of Fresno, Calif...died Apr. 18 in Taji, Iraq, when an improvised explosive device detonated near their vehicle during combat operations. They were assigned to the 1st Battalion, 37th Field Artillery Regiment...
04/23/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualties (part 1)
Cpl. Wade J. Oglesby, 27, of Grand Junction, Colo...died Apr. 18 in Taji, Iraq, when an improvised explosive device detonated near their vehicle during combat operations. They were assigned to the 1st Battalion, 37th Field Artillery Regiment...
04/23/07 AP: US soldier killed by roadside bomb in Muqdadiyah A U.S. soldier was killed Monday when a roadside bomb exploded near him north of Baghdad, the military said. The soldier died around 12:45 p.m. local time in Muqdadiyah, 95 kilometers (60 miles) north of Baghdad, the U.S. military said in a
04/23/07 DoD Identifies Marine Casualty
Lance Cpl. Jeffery A. Bishop, 23, of Dickson, Tenn., died April 20 from wounds suffered while conducting combat operations in Al Anbar province, Iraq. Bishop was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division...
posted on April 24, 2007 04:08:20 PM new
UPDATE FOR THE BUSH "SURGE" IN VIOLENCE FROM HIS IRAQ CIVIL WAR 4/24/07
AFTER INTO THE 5TH YEAR OF THE REPUBLICAN IRAQ CIVIL WAR AMERICA NOW HAS 3,333 DEAD TROOPS UP 1 SINCE YESTERDAY.
LEFT OVER REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS FROM 2004 AND BUSH ARE NOW BLOCKING DEMOCRATS FROM ENDING THE BUSH IRAQ WAR. VOTE THEM OUT IN 2008. THEY NOW HAVE THE BLOOD OF OUR TROOPS ON THEIR HANDS.
04/24/07 MCT: 19 Bodies found in Baghdad
Nineteen (19) corpses were found in all over Baghdad : (16) in west Baghdad( Kharkh bank) ; 3 in (Doura) , 3 in (Amil) , 2 in Ghazaliya , 2 in Bayaa , 2 in ( Amiriya) , 2 in ( Saidiya) , 2 in (Adel), 3 in east Baghdad ( Rusafa bank) ; 1 in (Sadr)...
posted on April 25, 2007 11:55:57 AM new
UPDATE FOR THE BUSH "SURGE" IN VIOLENCE FROM HIS IRAQ CIVIL WAR 4/25/07
AFTER INTO THE 5TH YEAR OF THE REPUBLICAN IRAQ CIVIL WAR AMERICA NOW HAS 3,334 DEAD TROOPS UP 1 SINCE YESTERDAY.
LEFT OVER REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS FROM 2004 AND BUSH ARE NOW BLOCKING DEMOCRATS FROM ENDING THE BUSH IRAQ WAR. VOTE THEM OUT IN 2008. THEY NOW HAVE THE BLOOD OF OUR TROOPS ON THEIR HANDS.
posted on April 26, 2007 06:13:04 PM new
UPDATE FOR THE BUSH "SURGE" IN VIOLENCE FROM HIS IRAQ CIVIL WAR 4/26/07
AFTER INTO THE 5TH YEAR OF THE REPUBLICAN IRAQ CIVIL WAR AMERICA NOW HAS 3,334 DEAD TROOPS.
LEFT OVER REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS FROM 2004 AND BUSH ARE NOW BLOCKING DEMOCRATS FROM ENDING THE BUSH IRAQ WAR. VOTE THEM OUT IN 2008. THEY NOW HAVE THE BLOOD OF OUR TROOPS ON THEIR HANDS.
LET ME PUT SOME NAMES AND ADDRESSES TO THE NUMBER OF DEAD TROOPS.
04/26/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualty
Spc. Jeremy E. Maresh, 24, of Jim Thorpe, Pa., died Apr. 24 in Baghdad, Iraq, from a non-combat related incident. His death is under investigation. Maresh was assigned to C Battery, 1st Battalion, 213th Air Defense Artillery, Spring City, Pa.
04/26/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualties
Pfc. Garrett C. Knoll, 23, of Bad Axe, Mich...assigned to 5th Squadron, 73rd Cavalry Reg, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division...died Apr. 23 in As Sadah, Iraq, of wounds suffered when an improvised explosive device detonated...
04/26/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualties
Spc. Michael J. Rodriguez, 20, of Sanford, N.C...assigned to 5th Squadron, 73rd Cavalry Reg, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division...died Apr. 23 in As Sadah, Iraq, of wounds suffered when an improvised explosive device detonated...
04/26/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualties
Spc. Jerry R. King, 19, of Browersville, Ga...assigned to 5th Squadron, 73rd Cavalry Reg, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division...died Apr. 23 in As Sadah, Iraq, of wounds suffered when an improvised explosive device detonated...
04/26/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualties
Sgt. Michael L. Vaughan, 20, of Otis, Ore...assigned to 5th Squadron, 73rd Cavalry Reg, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division...died Apr. 23 in As Sadah, Iraq, of wounds suffered when an improvised explosive device detonated...
04/26/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualties
Sgt. Brice A. Pearson, 32, of Phoenix, Az...assigned to 5th Squadron, 73rd Cavalry Reg, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division...died Apr. 23 in As Sadah, Iraq, of wounds suffered when an improvised explosive device detonated...
04/26/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualties
Sgt. Randell T. Marshall, 22, of Fitzgerald, Ga...assigned to 5th Squadron, 73rd Cavalry Reg, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division...died Apr. 23 in As Sadah, Iraq, of wounds suffered when an improvised explosive device detonated...
04/26/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualties
Staff Sgt. William C. Moore, 27, of Benson, N.C...assigned to 5th Squadron, 73rd Cavalry Reg, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division...died Apr. 23 in As Sadah, Iraq, of wounds suffered when an improvised explosive device detonated...
04/26/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualties
Staff Sgt. Kenneth E. Locker Jr., 28, of Wakefield, Neb...assigned to 5th Squadron, 73rd Cavalry Reg, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division...died Apr. 23 in As Sadah, Iraq, of wounds suffered when an improvised explosive device detonated...
04/26/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualties
1st Lt. Kevin J. Gaspers, 26, of Hastings, Neb...assigned to 5th Squadron, 73rd Cavalry Reg, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division...died Apr. 23 in As Sadah, Iraq, of wounds suffered when an improvised explosive device detonated...
04/26/07 AP: Soldier from Georgia among paratroopers killed
A 19-year-old soldier from northeast Georgia was among nine members of the 82nd Airborne Division to die when suicide bombers attacked an outpost in Iraq. Private First Class Ryen King was... King had been in Iraq since August.
posted on April 26, 2007 08:14:10 PM newTop 10 Myths of the Iraq War.
In no particular order. There are more, but ten is a manageable number.
1-No Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD).
Several hundred chemical weapons were found, and Saddam had all his WMD scientists and technicians ready. Just end the sanctions and add money, and the weapons would be back in production within a year. At the time of the invasion, all intelligence agencies, world-wide, believed Saddam still had a functioning WMD program. Saddam had shut them down because of the cost, but created the illusion that the program was still operating in order to fool the Iranians.
The Iranians wanted revenge on Saddam because of the Iraq invasion of Iran in 1980, and the eight year war that followed.
2-The 2003 Invasion was Illegal.
Only according to some in the UN. By that standard, the invasion of Kosovo and bombing of Serbia in 1999 was also illegal. Saddam was already at war with the U.S. and Britain, because Iraq had not carried out the terms of the 1991 ceasefire, and was trying to shoot down coalition aircraft patrolling the no-fly zone.
3-Sanctions were working.
The sanctions worked for Saddam, not for Iraq.
Saddam used the sanctions as an excuse to punish the Shia majority for their 1991 uprising, and help prevent a new one.
The "Oil For Food" program was corrupted with the help of bribed UN officials, and mass media outlets that believed Iraqi propaganda.
Saddam was waiting out the sanctions, and bribing France, Russia and China, with promises of oil contracts and debt repayments, to convince the UN to lift the sanctions.
4-Overthrowing Saddam Only Helped Iran.
Of course, and this was supposed to make Iran more approachable and open to negotiations. With the Iraqi "threat" gone, it was believed that Iran might lose its radical ways and behave. Iran got worse as a supporter of terrorism and developer of WMD. Irans clerical dictatorship did not want a democracy next door. The ancient struggle between the Iranians and Arabs was brought to the surface, and the UN became more active in dealing with problems caused by pro-terrorist government of Iran.
As a result of this, the Iranian police state has faced more internal dissent. From inside Iran, Iraq does not look like an Iranian victory.
5-The Invasion Was a Failure.
Saddam's police state was overthrown and a democracy established, which was the objective of the operation.
Peace did not ensue because Saddam's supporters, the Sunni Arab minority, were not willing to deal with majority rule, and war crimes trials. A terror campaign followed. Few expected the Sunni Arabs to be so stupid. There's a lesson to be learned there.
6-The Invasion Helped Al Qaeda.
Compared to what? Al Qaeda was a growing movement before 2003, and before 2001. But after the Iraq invasion, and especially the Sunni Arab terrorism, al Qaeda fell in popularity throughout the Moslem world. Arab countries cracked down on al Qaeda operations more than ever before. Without the Iraq invasion, al Qaeda would still have safe havens all over the Arab world.
7-Iraq Is In A State of Civil War.
Then so was Britain when the IRA was active, and so is Spain today because ETA is still active. Both IRA and ETA are terrorist organizations based on ethnic identity.
India also has tribal separatist rebels who are quite active. That's not considered a civil war.
This is all about partisans playing with labels for political ends, not accurately describing a terror campaign.
8-Iraqis Were Better Off Under Saddam.
Most Iraqis disagree. Check election results and opinion polls. Reporters tend to ask Iraqi Sunni Arabs this question, but they were the only ones who benefited from Saddams rule.
9-The Iraq War Caused Islamic Terrorism to Increase in Europe.
The Moslem unrest in Europe was there before 2001, and 2003. Interviews of Islamic radicals in Europe reveals that the hatred is not motivated by Iraq, but by daily encounters with hostile natives.
Blaming Islamic terrorism on Iraq is another attempt to avoid dealing with a homegrown problem.
10- The War in Iraq is Lost.
By what measure?
Saddam and his Baath party are out of power.
There is a democratically elected government.
Part of the Sunni Arab minority continues to support terror attacks, in an attempt to restore the Sunni Arab dictatorship.
In response, extremist Shia Arabs formed vigilante death squads to expel all Sunni Arabs.
Given the history of democracy in the Middle East, Iraq is working through its problems.
Otherwise, one is to believe that the Arabs are incapable of democracy and only a tyrant like Saddam can make Iraqi "work."
If democracy were easy, the Arab states would all have it.
There are problems, and solutions have to be found and implemented. That takes time, but Americans have, since the 18th century, grown weary of wars after three years.
If the war goes on longer, the politicians have to scramble to survive the bad press and opinion polls.
Opposition politicians take advantage of the situation, but this has nothing to do with Iraq, and everything to do with local politics in the United States.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on April 26, 2007 08:18:47 PM new
LOL.....kiara and 'waco' are trying to make things as NEGATIVE as they can. LOL LOL
We've JUST completed our FOURTH YEAR in this war. This war started Mar. 20, 2003
Be as PETTY and as NEGATIVE as you wish, kiara.
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Apr 26, 2007 08:22 PM ]
posted on April 26, 2007 08:41:02 PM new
problem is, kiara, 'waco' couldn't SPIT OUT....'we're entering the fifth year'.....he wrote some other foreign nonsense.
quoting what he said one time LOL OL LOL
"AFTER INTO THE 5TH YEAR OF THE REPUBLICAN IRAQ CIVIL WAR AMERICA"
and another:
And as I said....when most count the years....they don't go into 'the next' year .....they state how long it HAS been.
But...as I said...you enjoy being PETTY and small...so your 'back up' for waco's mumbo-jumbo speak doesn't surprise me at all.
Are YOU a Bunghole?